Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Is this a fraction of what Vietnam endured for a couple of occupations under China?
China Male Chinese ‘Relatives’ Assigned to Uyghur Homes Co-sleep With Female ‘Hosts’
Whitestrake Pelinal
Like a dream without a dreamer
Islam is a vile political system, celebrating the despair of the conquered and offering up the whole of the non-Muslim world as 'dar al-Harb', the house of war, where Muslims are encouraged to wage war and claim spoils both material and human.
The methods China is using to stamp it out may be savage, but their descendants will live in a nation that is not subject to Islam. Will there be anything left of the Swedes or the French in ten generations, I wonder? They though they could be humanitarian superpowers, diplomatic superpowers... but I suspect they will be gone in a couple centuries. The Chinese ten generations from now will thank their ancestors for being ruthless.
The methods China is using to stamp it out may be savage, but their descendants will live in a nation that is not subject to Islam. Will there be anything left of the Swedes or the French in ten generations, I wonder? They though they could be humanitarian superpowers, diplomatic superpowers... but I suspect they will be gone in a couple centuries. The Chinese ten generations from now will thank their ancestors for being ruthless.
CarlManvers2019
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Honestly, I think this will backfire on China, like 9/11 and other stuff to do with “Western Imperialism” later generations of Chinese will become full of spoiled champagne socialists who constantly decry their nation whilst feasting on its wealth daily
Muslims will become an Underdog again to what remains of Western civilization, and yes, I DO think that East Asian Nations like China and Japan have been influenced greatly by the West or mirror it to varying degrees. (I mean East Asians are the New Whites)
Unless it is found that European Muslims are so extremely obvious about whatever horrible religious-social values they got to the point that public news broadcasts torture and executions of women without veils
Whitestrake Pelinal
Like a dream without a dreamer
China is working aggressively to purge non-Chinese influence from their populace and they have mostly succeeded. Case in point, the broad support for their crackdown on Hong Kong. The minority who want something else are suppressed and can be expected to remain suppressed.
It does not matter who is an 'underdog' outside of Western nations, that's an affectation of ours. Most places, it makes far more sense to be seen as strong. In truth, it is probably only an affectation of a degenerate West full of garbage-tier people who want to pretend that failing to improve themselves makes them better somehow. None of what I read from centuries past encourages men to celebrate weakness as some sort of moral good, that shit is the spoor of Marx.
French Muslims are burning hundreds of Christian churches every year and getting away with it. They establish enclaves which become no-go zones for non-Muslims. By the time they get around to broadcasting their executions it won't matter because these countries will be under their dominion. Which will be... thirty or forty years, give or take.
The Chinese Communist Party continues to show why they are enemies of the entire world, on the same level as ISIS or the Nazi's.
They just have better PR because of corporate suck-ups and being more low key about how they do things, while having the tech and willingness to effectively silence internal dissent.
We should have taken them out after WW2 or during Korean, before they had nukes. Now the world is paying the price, and will for a long time to come.
They just have better PR because of corporate suck-ups and being more low key about how they do things, while having the tech and willingness to effectively silence internal dissent.
We should have taken them out after WW2 or during Korean, before they had nukes. Now the world is paying the price, and will for a long time to come.
CarlManvers2019
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I bet it will never really be mainstream to shit on China, the way shitting on anyone Right of Stalin is, in the West
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They’re not doing the same thing to the Gansu Muslim population though (ethnic Han Muslims). I grant that the objective may be to turn Uyghers into Gansu Muslims, because of the political convivance that has existed between Gansu Muslims and the rest of Han culture for almost a thousand years, but it’s hard to say the objective is the elimination of Islam.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Sinicization just like the preceding China's? The methods differ from soft to harsh but that's what it ends in doesn't it?
CarlManvers2019
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How easy or hard is it to radicalize or make those Gansu Muslims go start following Sharia Law and having big problems with women walking around unveiled, “sodomy”, the existence of other religions etc
Floridaman
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Pretty hard, since being religious at all gets you on the list of expedited organ donors.
PsihoKekec
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How? After WWII you didn't have enough nukes to break them and during Korean war you didn't have willingness to kill millions through systematic nuclear annihilation of Chinese cities.
The only way would be to back Nationalists massively, but given corruption and communist penetration of Nationalist leadership it was more likely it would only prolong the war.
Lanmandragon
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Having the willingness was the point. We should've razed thier nation to the ground. Should've done the Russians that way to.
CarlManvers2019
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And you would have made them all into martyrs
Frankly, I think what really should have been destroyed was both Hollywood and Academia to prevent Communism or its influence in any and all nation allied with the Anti-Communist West
Lanmandragon
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Doubt it neither the Japanese nor the Nazis got sympathy and we did exactly this. Hell we even nucked Japan. I find it far more likely such actions would've discredited communism. In much the same way as Facism is currently discredited.
CarlManvers2019
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I think the fact that Fascism is essentially more conflated with Capitalism & Nationalism(which is xenophobia to them)by Communists, helps make them be “unforgiven” but NOT the Communists who keep the underdog points because they think it’s a mostly Economic thing
ShadowsOfParadox
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by the time we had the nukes to actually destroy the USSR or China the USSR had their own nukes.
Lanmandragon
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I think Facism was discredited eith blood and fire and so was and is easy to discredit. Communism withered on the vine and died much less dramatically. So it's harder to discredit. Plus they were around and I power longer to spread thier filth.
I'm aware that's why you fight conventionally. Alas we lacked the political will to do so.
Not gonna lie, made me think of this
Alas I don't think we're going to see a Chinese Muslim William Wallace pop up anytime soon...
On a serious note I'd say this crackdown is aimed more at their Islamic faith moreso than any racial issues.
Alas I don't think we're going to see a Chinese Muslim William Wallace pop up anytime soon...
On a serious note I'd say this crackdown is aimed more at their Islamic faith moreso than any racial issues.
Hard, because the Chinese state will go out of its way to stop anyone who gets such ideas.
One major theme of the crackdown on the Uyghurs that is mentioned in many reports on this is that it focuses its harsher policies on those who aren't being good little chinese communists; and at the very tip of that classification are those with some sort of cultural, religious or political contacts with the Middle East, or Uighur diaspora in western countries. You know, places from which they may import some very un-communist ideas from, one kind of them or another, both are very unwelcome there.
Say, an Uighur goes on a pilgrimage to Mecca, or worse, for "religious studies" in some ME country? That Uighur is on top of the shitlist now.
Makes me wonder how religious the Gansu ones are, and how much of foreign cultural-religious exchange they do, including pilgrimages to Mecca.