Leftist Child Grooming

[Jormungandr]

Didn't help the Schutzstaffel during the Nuremberg war crimes trials.

There does come a point where following orders , as a defense, does not work.

Ironically, they still "just followed orders" when the Allies told them to guard their former bosses in the prisons, as they awaited war crime trials.

 

[Sobek]

Wasn't that the Latvian SS though? Who didn't actually commit any war crimes and was along for the ride based on "Fuck Stalin" principles?

 

[DarthOne]

Didn't help the Schutzstaffel during the Nuremberg war crimes trials.

There does come a point where following orders , as a defense, does not work.

(Looks at Raycon and Lockheed-Martin)

Yeah, about that…

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Didn't help the Schutzstaffel during the Nuremberg war crimes trials.

There does come a point where following orders , as a defense, does not work.

"Just following orders" is contextual to this very day.

If you win the war=It's a valid excuse for ANY atrocity no matter how terrible
If you lose the war=You will be hanged for things your opponents did and wanted to pin on you

The idea that victors don't write the history books is such a silly one really.
Didn't America blow up a metric fuckload of civvies in the past 30 years, and the global response was "Well what are we going to do? It's fucking America and if we speak up they might blow our civvies up as well".

 

[mrttao]

"Just following orders" is contextual to this very day.

If you win the war=It's a valid excuse for ANY atrocity no matter how terrible
If you lose the war=You will be hanged for things your opponents did and wanted to pin on you

The idea that victors don't write the history books is such a silly one really.
Didn't America blow up a metric fuckload of civvies in the past 30 years, and the global response was "Well what are we going to do? It's fucking America and if we speak up they might blow our civvies up as well".

Vietnam war. USA killed 20% of vietnam's entire population.
4 million veitnamese died.
55,000 americans died.
just following orders

 

[LordsFire]

Vietnam war. USA killed 20% of vietnam's entire population.

I am trying very hard not to give a sarcastic response to this.

Please check where you got that kind of number.

 

[mrttao]

I am trying very hard not to give a sarcastic response to this.

Please check where you got that kind of number.

IIRC I looked at the before and after pop figures of vietnam, subtracting refugees

 

[LordsFire]

IIRC I looked at the before and after pop figures of vietnam, subtracting refugees

...So you failed to account for the two entire armies of North and South Vietnam that were actively waging war with each other, the communists particularly being noted for seeing civilian casualties at times as an objective, rather than something to be avoided?

 

[DarthOne]

Newly released emails show @GlendaleUSD reportedly suspended 2 students for misgendering a teacher. The students also had to go through RJ (Restorative Justice)
Source:
@gusdparents

 

[DarthOne]

The rise of the 'furries': How schools are allowing kids to identify as cats, horses and dinosaurs - and teachers are 'failing to question them'

How schools are letting pupils identify as cats, horses and dinosaurs

There was widespread outrage earlier this week when a 13-year-old girl was branded 'despicable' by her teacher for rejecting her classmate's claim that she identified as a cat .

www.dailymail.co.uk

Schools are allowing children to identify as cats, horses and dinosaurs - and teachers are 'failing to question them', it was claimed today.

There was widespread outrage earlier this week when a 13-year-old girl was branded 'despicable' by her teacher for rejecting her classmate's claim that she identified as a cat.

Now further stories are emerging of pupils who identify as animals with very human characteristics - often known as 'furries'.

At a state secondary school in Wales, one student is said to 'meow' when asked questions by a teacher, rather than answering in English, the Telegraph reports.

In other schools, one apparently insists on being addressed as a dinosaur, one claims to identify as a horse while another is said to wear a cape and demands to be acknowledged as a moon.

Pupils claim teachers are 'not allowed to get annoyed' about such behaviour in case it is seen as being discriminatory.

However, lessons are reportedly becoming completely derailed by these interactions, impacting the quality of their classmates' education.

Tracy Shaw, of the grassroots Safe Schools Alliance, said she has seen an increasing number of reports of children identifying as animals, but added that these remain in small numbers.

'This is worrying, as there is a high probability that those children have been online in unregulated chat forums,' she said.

'We know predators will do anything to get to children and what better way than to infiltrate chat forums pretending to be a cute furry animal? These children are often already isolated and vulnerable; they may also feel that they don't fit in.

'Teachers need to be showing professional curiosity when they encounter children who are identifying as animals.

'Affirming children as animals harms those children as it fails to look into their lives and get them the help them need. It also harms other children in the school.

'We are appalled that children are expected to ignore the evidence before their own eyes and pretend that children are something they are clearly not.

'When schools then sanction those children for not going along with the concept that children have animal identities that are valid and authentic, we have to believe that those schools have been infiltrated and are no longer a safe place for children.'

Andrea Williams, chief executive of Christian Concern, told MailOnline: 'In the current climate this cannot be dismissed as innocent examples of 'imaginative play', but further examples of the confusing and harmful ideologies which are continuing to escalate in our schools.

'This story exposes the confusion and untruths being embedded in schools which are developing into a public health crisis.

'This is where 'inclusive' education leaves teachers, parents, and children – lost in moral chaos and confusion.

'Out of fear of questioning or going against the secular orthodoxy on these issues, teachers are forced to go along with it and to kowtow to whatever a child 'identifies' at any given moment.

'The harmful impact on children will not just be seen now, but also in the years to come if it goes unchecked.

'Teachers who rock the boat by refusing to use a pupils' preferred identity, or who raise standard safeguarding concerns over transitioning children, are marginalised, silenced and have even ended up losing their careers.

'Truth is becoming stranger than fiction. Sadly, such is the climate of fear in schools, we can no longer rely on the common sense of teachers.'

However, Geoff Barton, General Secretary of the Association of School and College Leaders, said he hasn't heard of it arising as an issue in schools.

'There are nine million children in England's schools so it is not surprising that all sorts of things crop up in discussions in classrooms,' he said.

'Teachers and leaders are very good at dealing with whatever situation arises.'

The government is due to issue new guidance on self-identity this week, but the issue of 'furries' will not be specifically addressed.

A Department for Education spokesman said teachers would be trusted to apply 'common sense' in each individual case.

It comes after two teenage Year 8 pupils at Rye College in East Sussex were ordered to stay behind in class after clashing with their classmate who identifies as a cat.

One of the girls secretly recorded their conversation with the teacher, who can be heard reprimanding them both for their views that gender is binary, calling it 'really despicable' and 'very sad'.

The girls were also told 'if you don't like it you should go to a different school.'

Last night, the mother of one of the girls, who has asked to be kept anonymous, told MailOnline: 'I'm so proud of my daughter, she will always stand up for what she believes is right and this is all that she did.

'She expressed a view that many, many of her classmates and their parents would share yet she was shouted down and bullied by someone in authority.'

Earlier this year, it emerged that the Safer Schools safeguarding organisation had issued guidance for parents and teachers on how to support 'furries'.

It's unclear how many UK pupils identify as such, but Safer Schools published a lengthy document advising how to respond if they encounter one who does.

The series of observations about furries includes reassurances that it's in no way unusual for pupils to want to do this: 'It's normal for young people to express themselves through ''dressing up''.'

The post on the organisation's website explains how members of the furry 'community' like to take on the persona of an animal – a 'fursona' – and interact with other like-minded 'fursonas' by chatting and in acts of role play.

It further outlines how furries take on the personality and physical attributes of their chosen animal and some members make or buy vibrant costumes of their characters, known as 'fursuits'.

Conventions are held around the world where these like-minded people can meet up in their altered animal ego, it says.

IT BEGINS

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

The rise of the 'furries': How schools are allowing kids to identify as cats, horses and dinosaurs - and teachers are 'failing to question them'

How schools are letting pupils identify as cats, horses and dinosaurs

There was widespread outrage earlier this week when a 13-year-old girl was branded 'despicable' by her teacher for rejecting her classmate's claim that she identified as a cat .

www.dailymail.co.uk

This shit bothers me, furries don't 'identify' as animals. Nowhere will you find a definition that fits that. Unless it's been changed very lately it's always been 'people who are very much interested in anthropomorphism'.

These kids are becoming otherkins lmao, which is even worse.

 

[mrttao]

This shit bothers me, furries don't 'identify' as animals. Nowhere will you find a definition that fits that. Unless it's been changed very lately it's always been 'people who are very much interested in anthropomorphism'.

These kids are becoming otherkins lmao, which is even worse.

According to the full article, you have both.
You have both kids identifying as animals.
And kids identifying as furry animal-human hybrids.

And if anyone disagrees they get cancelled

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

According to the full article, you have both.
You have both kids identifying as animals.
And kids identifying as furry animal-human hybrids.

And if anyone disagrees they get cancelled

Furries don't 'identify' as animal-human hybrids though, they just really like them.

It's the same as people who really like cars and people who identify as car hybrids, they're...Just not the same. XD
They're not using the right words, they should be using HARSHER words.

 

[mrttao]

Furries don't 'identify' as animal-human hybrids though, they just really like them.

You are defining furry as "someone who likes furry porn".
But I and the article are referring to people who have a "fursona" and / or a "fursuit".

It's the same as people who really like cars and people who identify as car hybrids

How many people wear a half human half car costume with genital holes so they can have sex in it. while calling it their "carsona"?

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

You are defining furry as "someone who likes furry porn".
But I and the article are referring to people who have a "fursona" and / or a "fursuit".

No, I am defining it as 'an enthusiast for animal characters with human characteristics'. Which is what it has been for a long time now.
People who like furry porn pretty obviously are also furries. But the article is discussing 'otherkin' not furries.

"Otherkin are a subculture of people who identify as not entirely human."

How many people wear a half human half car costume with genital holes so they can have sex in it. while calling it their "carsona"?

Uhh you really want to ask that question? Because a lot of people unfortunately do that, or at least part-way there.

 

[mrttao]

No, I am defining it as 'an enthusiast for animal characters with human characteristics'. Which is what it has been for a long time now.
People who like furry porn pretty obviously are also furries. But the article is discussing 'otherkin' not furries.

"Otherkin are a subculture of people who identify as not entirely human."

You are misinformed.
Otherkin are identifying as dragons, fae, space aliens, angels, demons, and the like. Anything that is NOT a humanized version of a real animal that exists

They are the chunni furries who go "being a half man half wolf is boring. I want to be a dragon"

Uhh you really want to ask that question? Because a lot of people unfortunately do that, or at least part-way there.

You have pics? I have not see a carsona carsuit before.

Regardless, anyone who goes to school wearing a carsuit and when asked says "this is my carsona" and "respect my sexual identity as a car-ry" is the exact same type of mental illness as a guy wearing a fursuit of a humanoid wolf.

Anyways. The article was drawing a distinction between two different types.

Group 1: Shows up to school in a fursuit, says it is their fursona, says respect my sexual identity

Group 2: Shows up to school dressed as a normal person. But tells people "I am a cat, and my pronouns are meow". When asked "do you mean a furry?" they say "no, an actual cat"

BOTH group 1 and group 2 exist right now in schools.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

You are misinformed.
Otherkin are identifying as dragons, fae, space aliens, angels, demons, and the like. Anything that is NOT a humanized version of a real animal that exists

They are the chunni furries who go "being a half man half wolf is boring. I want to be a dragon"

No, otherkin certainly identify as animals and humanized animals as well. The famous "I identify as a wolf" meme dude and what not. Find me a definition that furries 'identify' with their creations.

On All Levels Except Physical, I am a Wolf

“On All Levels Except Physical, I am a Wolf” is a memorable quote from a documentary about otherkin in which a teenage boy explains how he identifies as a wolf animal. The scene subsequently inspired a two-pane exploitable series, with various superimposed characters expressing aspects of their...

knowyourmeme.com

You have pics? I have not see a carsona carsuit before.

Regardless, anyone who goes to school wearing a carsuit and when asked says "this is my carsona" and "respect my sexual identity as a car-ry" is the exact same type of mental illness as a guy wearing a fursuit of a humanoid wolf.

I don't think anyone actually makes such suits, although I am sure at least one exists. But they certainly DRAW that sort of crap.

 

[mrttao]

I don't think anyone actually makes such suits, although I am sure at least one exists. But they certainly DRAW that sort of crap.

they draw dragons fucking cars. which, I am pretty sure is just 1 specific guy comissioning a bunch of artists.

There are also aeromorphs (literally "i identify as attack helicopter meme". although most of those are actually jet fighter plane instead. only few are attack helicopter persons)

But the question was about people showing up to school in a carsuit and telling the teacher "this is my carsona".

Anyways... we have devolved into an argument about semantics. Let us put aside the semantics and just clearly describe what is going on. you have 2 similar yet distinct groups showing up in schools. the "fursuit" crowd, and the "I am not a furry, I am an actual cat" crowd

 

[Blasterbot]

‘Sound of Freedom’ Is an Anti-Child Trafficking Fantasy Fit for QAnon

Star Jim Caviezel, who plays real-life anti-trafficking activist Tim Ballard, has been talking about adrenochrome and organ harvesting on his press tour.

jezebel.com

Lefty website goes on long angry skree about how bad this movie about stopping child sex trafficking is. they condemn this movie while they praised Cuties. can we just admit they are evil at this point?

 

[Bear Ribs]

‘Sound of Freedom’ Is an Anti-Child Trafficking Fantasy Fit for QAnon

Star Jim Caviezel, who plays real-life anti-trafficking activist Tim Ballard, has been talking about adrenochrome and organ harvesting on his press tour.

jezebel.com

Lefty website goes on long angry skree about how bad this movie about stopping child sex trafficking is. they condemn this movie while they praised Cuties. can we just admit they are evil at this point?

There's a lot of reeing going on over Sound of Freedom.

Guardian has some particularly spicy takes.

Sound of Freedom: the QAnon-adjacent thriller seducing America

Jim Caviezel stars as a hero trying to stop child traffickers in a paranoid new movie turning into a surprise box-office hit

www.theguardian.com

...triumphant reports crowing about the improbable victory of a film by that title over the likes of Indiana Jones at the box office this week.

That's not, strictly speaking, accurate – Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny had already been out for five days, the first three of which out-earned Sound of Freedom's opening-day take,

Yeah, Indy's not being curbstomped, he earned as much in three days as Sound of Freedom did in one!