Leftist Child Grooming

Aldarion

Neoreactionary Monarchist
On the grounds that you disagree or disapprove of someone's politics you'd backstab them. So what is to stop you from doing it to other allies on those grounds? And I am going to put this bluntly, you are sounding like a leftist right now (this is exactly what a leftist would do). This is the sort of thing the communists did, they did it to the Socialist Revolutionaries and their other allies during the Russian revolution. They did it during the Spanish Civil War. And in many more places.

DarthOne is a leftist, and in fact I was convinced he is a Communist for quite some time. Anyway...

My standards of what qualifies as ‘subhumans’ (thanks for putting words in my mouth) is rather high. As in, only the worse scum or most heinous beliefs quality.

Define the worst scum of most heinous beliefs? To a Communist, any nationalist is the "worst scum" and nationalism "most heinous beliefs". Thus, if Communists gain power (openly - they already have power over the West in a more indirect way), all nationalists - even civic nationalists - can look forward to being shot or, at best, sent to gulags.

So yeah, once you start qualifying "subhumans"...
 

DarthOne

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On the grounds that you disagree or disapprove of someone's politics you'd backstab them. So what is to stop you from doing it to other allies on those grounds? And I am going to put this bluntly, you are sounding like a leftist right now (this is exactly what a leftist would do). This is the sort of thing the communists did, they did it to the Socialist Revolutionaries and their other allies during the Russian revolution. They did it during the Spanish Civil War. And in many more places.



Think about it this way, though morality is universal (or should be)- everyone has their own take on it. It doesn't matter if you are correct about them, there are good reasons for not doing this (besides not acting in an immoral manner). That this opens you up to attack. Because, for one people will see you as the worst scum for doing this and thus follow your precedent, or two, because people have differing beliefs and there are people who find your beliefs abhorrent, would you want someone else to do it to you, or set the precedent that they can do to you what you have done to others. You are forgetting the Golden and Silver Rules, you want to treat other people in a manner in which you do not want to be treated and if the roles were reversed you would not at all accept your own reasoning for why you are treated this way.

You just advocated for breaking trust, betrayal, oathbreaking, a particular form of murder... It is what tvtropes calls a "Uriah Gambit". And you are saying it would be alright, because it is the correct class of person. It is alright when we do it to them, you say. Yeah, no. Morality is universal, and doesn't bend to your wants. If it is incorrect to do it to one person or kind, it is incorrect to do it to another. And, as Unabrask said, if you are willing to do it to one group, who isn't to say you aren't going to start expanding the list? After all, this is exactly how it happened in the past. But, yes, you don't want to exterminate a group of people, you just want to send them to their deaths in the scenario you have power over them. As I said, you are forgetting important foundational rules of morality. You cannot pick or choose who morality applies to, it either has to be universal or it has to be absolute (or both), or otherwise it is not morality.




So backstab people, so they don't backstab you first. Yeah no, that isn't how it works. And really I don't think there are enough of them to matter anyways, and I don't think the common people are going to care much about one side having some bad people, when the other side has even more. And if you want to avoid them creating issues, you break them up into smaller units and then work on integrating them into the war effort.

Anyways, I certainly hope that things don't go insane and then boil over into civil war. Because, one civil wars are bad and I for some reason I still hold out hope for things to be resolved politically, and two I don't want to side with Nazi Furries either. Nazis and Furries are bad enough as it as, but Nazi Furries? That is even worse. I can't imagine what would happen when they face the Communist Furries, probably something horrifying.

And, really, I find it vexxing that I need to tell people that moral consideration applies to everyone- even people we dislike and remind people that the Golden and Silver Rules still applies to Nazi Furries, even though they are a) Nazis and b) Furries. If we are making exceptions to morality, then we are falling to the same trap as the left. "It is alright if we do it", "It is alright if it is done to the right person", and so on.

I am pretty sure we are derailing the thread, and I probably should have thought about that first.

Anyways, I guess to make my post more relevant to the actual topic. I guess that when pursuing justice against groomers that we cannot forget basic morality? And that sometimes we need to have odd allies (hopefully not Nazi Furries).

Fine, fine...
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
Well, you're wrong. I was back when I was in my early 20's, but I also was an idiot.

To satisfy onlookers (such as me), where do you stand on the following issues:

1. Government authority over education.
2. Gun control.
3. Taxation.
4. Abortion.
5. Religion.
 

DarthOne

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To satisfy onlookers (such as me), where do you stand on the following issues:

1. Government authority over education.
2. Gun control.
3. Taxation.
4. Abortion.
5. Religion.


  1. Beyond setting some very broad standards, (for example, know how to read and write) I’d say it’s down to the states.
  2. Not a fan of red flag laws, am torn about if we should allow felons to have guns or not, firm follower of the second amendment as it was intended by the constitution and federalist papers.
  3. …not really knowledgeable enough to make a call outside of knowing that just going ‘tax the rich’ isn’t going to solve much and will just make things worse.
  4. Only should be the case if it can be proven to be the result of rape or in serious danger of threatening to the life of the mother. That said I do think it should ultimately be decided on a state level.
  5. As long as you’re not doing obscene things to children, animals or otherwise breaking the law, you should be allowed to practice your faith in peace. Course that doesn’t mean I am a fan of satanist, wiccans or pagans…
 

LordsFire

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  1. Beyond setting some very broad standards, (for example, know how to read and write) I’d say it’s down to the states.
  2. Not a fan of red flag laws, am torn about if we should allow felons to have guns or not, firm follower of the second amendment as it was intended by the constitution and federalist papers.
  3. …not really knowledgeable enough to make a call outside of knowing that just going ‘tax the rich’ isn’t going to solve much and will just make things worse.
  4. Only should be the case if it can be proven to be the result of rape or in serious danger of threatening to the life of the mother. That said I do think it should ultimately be decided on a state level.
  5. As long as you’re not doing obscene things to children, animals or otherwise breaking the law, you should be allowed to practice your faith in peace. Course that doesn’t mean I am a fan of satanist, wiccans or pagans…

Sound more like a straight moderate than a center-leftist to me.
 

Cherico

Well-known member
Your posts. You are definitely moderate left based on what I had seen you write.



How long until the open push for pedoacceptance?

since they already got one as president your at least 2 years to late.

Honestly thought we would have our first female president before our first pedofile one but hey thems the breaks right?
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
Okay and where exactly am I 'wrong' in my answers in being righ wing?
  1. Beyond setting some very broad standards, (for example, know how to read and write) I’d say it’s down to the states.
  2. Not a fan of red flag laws, am torn about if we should allow felons to have guns or not, firm follower of the second amendment as it was intended by the constitution and federalist papers.
  3. …not really knowledgeable enough to make a call outside of knowing that just going ‘tax the rich’ isn’t going to solve much and will just make things worse.
  4. Only should be the case if it can be proven to be the result of rape or in serious danger of threatening to the life of the mother. That said I do think it should ultimately be decided on a state level.
  5. As long as you’re not doing obscene things to children, animals or otherwise breaking the law, you should be allowed to practice your faith in peace. Course that doesn’t mean I am a fan of satanist, wiccans or pagans…

1. Ideologically grounded conservatism will say the government has no place at all in education. It is in fact one of the worst possible ways to run education.
2. I think you're on board with conservatism with this, but it's not entirely clear.
3. Understanding of basic economics will tell you that you want taxes to be both at the lowest level functionally possible (probably practically between 5-10%), and to be completely flat.
4. This is a very moderate position. The conservative position would say you don't punish the baby for the crimes of the father, thus abortion because of rape is wrong.
5. This is a very libertarian position. It's not incompatible with conservatism, but that you immediately went to 'government policy towards religion' rather than 'religion in general,' and you didn't state your own beliefs, suggest more moderate than conservative.
 

Abhorsen

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... That's not for kids. Like wtf?
Okay and where exactly am I 'wrong' in my answers in being righ wing?
Yeah, you hit as right wing on gun rights and abortion at the least.
4. This is a very moderate position. The conservative position would say you don't punish the baby for the crimes of the father, thus abortion because of rape is wrong.
A moderate position in the US is more like "Abortion only up to 15 weeks" or less. Only excepting for rape or incest is pretty right wing.
 

DarthOne

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The Truth About 42% and Transgender Studies


The statistic surrounding trans people and autism is extremely telling and one I've often used when encountering these activists, they certainly don't like these studies being pointed out to them. The sad thing is young people suffering with autism tend to be easier to manipulate. Also telling is the statistic that 80% of youths identifying as trans "grow out" of it and end up settling into their biological gender when they hit adulthood - again a study trans activists simply try to ignore.


 

bintananth

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The Truth About 42% and Transgender Studies


The statistic surrounding trans people and autism is extremely telling and one I've often used when encountering these activists, they certainly don't like these studies being pointed out to them. The sad thing is young people suffering with autism tend to be easier to manipulate. Also telling is the statistic that 80% of youths identifying as trans "grow out" of it and end up settling into their biological gender when they hit adulthood - again a study trans activists simply try to ignore.

One of my nieces thinks she's a boy. We're willing to go along with this and metaphoracically slap her older sister for insisting that Lilly is a girl. No, you do not insist that Lilly is not a boy's name. She thinks it is and she's got an uncle named Chloé and aunts who go by Phil and Arthur.

(From what I can tell, the gender "incorectness" here would probably get me perma-banned by both SV and SB.)
 

Abhorsen

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Yeah.... monkeypox requires very, very close contact to spread...
Honestly, I bet this is government just overblowing a disease, again. Unless the kids start getting the pox, it's wrong to accuse the guy just because the government started giving out warnings. Now if they do start getting it, well, that's a different story.
 

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