Yes and no.
Technically since it is the Midwest hunting is a thing so please ty of the states there allow minors to have and handle rifles.
Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Thread
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Technically since it is the Midwest hunting is a thing so please ty of the states there allow minors to have and handle rifles.
The age is 18 in Wisconsin. 12 for hunting purposes. He wasn't hunting.
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LindyAF
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So there's no new info, you just decided to imply there was to defend your dumb boomer take.
It's 18. However, the defense has said they think they can beat the charge. IANAL, and I don't know how to evaluate this, but I've seen an argument that section 3c of the statue says "This section applies only to a person under 18 years of age who possesses or is armed with a rifle or a shotgun if the person is in violation of s. 941.28 or is not in compliance with ss. 29.304 and 29.593."
941.28 is about short barreled rifles, 29.304 is about restrictions on hunting for those under 16, and 29.593 is requiring certification of accomplishment for hunting approval.
Statute
Him having it doesn't make it not for hunting.
Zach, he was providing medical aid and protecting local properties with it.
What he did was commendable, he was providing a service, and while providing that service, he was assaulted, and he defended himself from that assault.
He was not hunting. And it's going to take zero effort to convince any jury of that.
Was it safe to be there without a gun? No. A minor isn't supposed to have a gun, so this was not a safe environment for a minor to be in.
Idk what the punishment for a minor possessing a firearm is in that state, but I'm guessing he's already completed or got close to time served for the time he already previously spent locked up.
He shouldn't have been there, he shouldn't have had a gun. If they charge him with the possession, I am fine with that. He is NOT a murderer though.
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Why does everyone take what I say put of context?
The rifle was gotten for Kyle for hunting.
That is what I am getting at ....
LindyAF
Well-known member
Do you know this, or are you saying it could be the case?
Regardless, IANAL but a straightforward reading of the section of 948.60 that allows minors to possess and be given rifles or shotguns for the purposes of hunting appears to also cover minors possessing or being given a rifle or shotgun for other purposes, provided that they are not in violation of 29.304 and 29.593, and the gun is not a short barreled rifle or shotgun. 29.304 only restricts those who are 16 or younger. 29.593 does not cover firearm ownership but is about who can receive a hunting approval.
“[When asked how it felt to take human life]
"I wouldn't know, I've only killed communists.”
― Rafał Gan-Ganowicz
But anyway . . .
What I saw in Rittenhouse was the Spirit of America, the same spirit that infused the men and women who refused to bow to King George's tyranny and took up arms to liberate themselves and their fellow countrymen.
Sic Semper Tyrannis!
He was a minor that got a dumb idea in his head. And with his idiot friend group went a playing Armed Security/ EMT/ Pretend Police. Anyone with half a brain knows going to an area with hundreds of people rioting with only a squad sized group of people is stupid. Add in the fact that none of them are police or have police academy training and it adds a whole new level to the farce.
Whitestrake Pelinal
Like a dream without a dreamer
I'll grant you that he ought to have had a platoon of like-minded individuals, but I have a hard time faulting a kid for seeing his parents generations sitting on their thumbs while leftist filth riot and loot, and deciding to do something. Even if it wasn't the most optimal something.
Dude if you would have been looking at the live feed of the trial and all the boring pretrial lead up at the Court. You would understand why I call him a stupid kid. Watch the actual damn trial and not Youtubers feeding you info.
Sobek
Disgusting Scalie
None of these arguments matter, the point of the trial isn't if what he did was smart. It's weather or not the shooting was in self defense of manslaughter/homicide.
Your entire point reeks of cowardice. "Just let them riot too dangerous too go there." No one was doing anything to stop them, but Kyle and some people decided that having commies just riot and destroy shit wasn't gonna fly and they took it on their own hands to reduce the damage.
Your entire point reeks of cowardice. "Just let them riot too dangerous too go there." No one was doing anything to stop them, but Kyle and some people decided that having commies just riot and destroy shit wasn't gonna fly and they took it on their own hands to reduce the damage.
If you had called me a coward to my face you would not like what would happen to you afterwards. The Sietch has rules about name calling members. I suggest you read up on it. And as for Kyle. A fine job he did there. He screwed up his whole life no matter the outcome of the trial. His actions did diddly and squat to stop the rioting so spare me your righteous outrage that someone would dare call your Lord and Savior Kyle a Stupid kid.
We are long since past the point where ideal outcomes are possible, I need you to understand that, we are now at the point where we try to pick and get the least bad outcome we can, and if you try to get a golden perfect outcome it will end with us getting the worst possible outcome.
This case is ultimently not about kyle its about the right of the american people to defend themselves, and if we lose that right then the left will come after your children and your loved ones, and their will be no mercy.
Whitestrake Pelinal
Like a dream without a dreamer
Kyle Rittenhouse put to death two leftist street soldiers, one of them a convicted child-raper that his fathers should have already executed. That has to count for something. And that's the whole problem, isn't it? If Fentanyl Floyd had been executed after his first armed robbery, all of this could have been avoided.
Too many are practicing the "eyes down, mouth shut, make money don't rock the boat" strategy of life. That's nothing to respect or encourage.
^^^^^^This^^^^^^
This is not the case for that. Never will be. There are already laws on the books in various States that outline what Lawful Self Defense is. This case changes nothing.
The country is not going to hell in a hand basket crime wise. We have a jacked up Southern Border. A baked Potato as President. And only over the top crime happening in the same cities they always do. The way you beat leftists is not through overt force of arms. But with the new strategy of forcing them out of Academia. Out of local Public office and agencies. And by purging them from state legislature and Senates. In doing this after you have built a foundation. Then and only then can you really root them out on the Federal level. It took decades to create the problem. It will take decades to fix it.
ShieldWife
Marchioness
As far as I’m concerned, Kyle Rittenhouse is a hero. Maybe his life will be destroyed, but plenty of heroes lose their lives in the course of their heroism as well. He’s no LARPer, he was out there facing real terrorists who were trying to kill him for real, and two of those guys will never commit any acts of terror or rape any little boys again. That is reality, not role playing.
Just because he’s young and not well trained doesn’t mean he’s not a hero or that his actions or situation isn’t real. Think about the various important conflicts which the USA has been involved in over the years - the Revolutionary War, Civil War, the World Wars. There were men who fought and died for their nation in those conflicts who were no older, and in some cases no better trained, than Rittenhouse.
If anybody are LARPers, it’s the police who were out there sitting on their thumbs while rioters were burning down the city and assaulting innocent people. They were the ones dressed up pretending to be something that they weren’t. Then they jump to action and arrest a private citizen who actually is out there trying to protect people.
Just because he’s young and not well trained doesn’t mean he’s not a hero or that his actions or situation isn’t real. Think about the various important conflicts which the USA has been involved in over the years - the Revolutionary War, Civil War, the World Wars. There were men who fought and died for their nation in those conflicts who were no older, and in some cases no better trained, than Rittenhouse.
If anybody are LARPers, it’s the police who were out there sitting on their thumbs while rioters were burning down the city and assaulting innocent people. They were the ones dressed up pretending to be something that they weren’t. Then they jump to action and arrest a private citizen who actually is out there trying to protect people.
Facepalm. And this why I will remain a stone cold pragmatist and not an Idealist. Pragmatist get real shit done. Idealists just post and talk about dead men of the past. Look if you really want to fix things get into local politics. Put your hat in the ring for town council or a county position. That is what am going to do. Talk is cheap. If you want to fix the system get to work now.
I intend to run for. Town Council.
I intend to run for. Town Council.