Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum

[Vyor]

In the previous century, most new ones have plenty of electronic optimization like car engines.
Still, good luck running refineries, oil extraction and logistics for them off those.

Inside a giant metal box.

That's grounding, not faraday cage...

Functionally the same when it comes to EMPs. Walls will stop the ions, so you only have the magnetic effects to worry about... also known as a power surge. If your computer works after one of those, and it does, it would work after an EMP.

 

[Morphic Tide]

The Carrington Event recurring is maily a problem for large-scale electrical work like power grids because it has to do with the flux difference over distance. Your phone, car, desktop PC, etcetera will almost certainly not be damaged, but there's fuck-all stockpile of gridscale parts and it takes rather little of the grid going down to make a horrible mess of the ability to coordinate repairs so you don't blow it up again.

It's a massive problem for "society" at large because the economy is so interconnected that Canada going dark is going to spiral horribly in the markets, but it's a counter-intuitive social breakdown in that pretty much all the personal-scale equipment will be physically fine. Always-on DRM bullshit and small-scale power generation access notwithstanding.

 

[mrttao]

The Carrington Event recurring is maily a problem for large-scale electrical work like power grids because it has to do with the flux difference over distance. Your phone, car, desktop PC, etcetera will almost certainly not be damaged, but there's fuck-all stockpile of gridscale parts and it takes rather little of the grid going down to make a horrible mess of the ability to coordinate repairs so you don't blow it up again.

It's a massive problem for "society" at large because the economy is so interconnected that Canada going dark is going to spiral horribly in the markets, but it's a counter-intuitive social breakdown in that pretty much all the personal-scale equipment will be physically fine. Always-on DRM bullshit and small-scale power generation access notwithstanding.

A strong enough EMP can absolutely ruin your personal stuff too. It is a question of scale.
Most home electronics are NOT shielded. They should be, but they aren't

 

[Morphic Tide]

A strong enough EMP can absolutely ruin your personal stuff too. It is a question of scale.
Most home electronics are NOT shielded. They should be, but they aren't

The Carrington Event wasn't an EMP, it was a geomagnetic storm. The reason for the damage is the flux over long distances without proper ground, which fucks up power management (and telegraphs) but down at the personal electronics scale is basically nothing.

 

[mrttao]

The Carrington Event wasn't an EMP, it was a geomagnetic storm. The reason for the damage is the flux over long distances without proper ground, which fucks up power management (and telegraphs) but down at the personal electronics scale is basically nothing.

1. it is called a GMD Geo Magnetic Disturbance. Not GM Storm. Although storm is actually a good way to describe it.

2. a GMD is basically a non stop EMP that lasts a while, and on a massive planetwide scale.

Typically EMPs are produced by man made nuclear explosions. While a GMD is from a solar flare.
But that is rather limiting. it is entirely plausible to build non nuclear EMP bombs, have a manmade GMD, or have something cause a natural singular EMP that does not last but instead comes and goes quickly.

Either way, whether EMP or GMD, if it is powerful enough it can fry personal electronics too

 

[Marduk]

Inside a giant metal box.



Functionally the same when it comes to EMPs. Walls will stop the ions, so you only have the magnetic effects to worry about... also known as a power surge. If your computer works after one of those, and it does, it would work after an EMP.

When it comes to EMPs walls aren't made equal. Any place that gets cell or GPS signal is obviously not keeping radio waves out, so it can be vulnerable to sufficiently strong EMP and all depends on specific numbers and coefficients.

 

[Morphic Tide]

1. it is called a GMD Geo Magnetic Disturbance. Not GM Storm. Although storm is actually a good way to describe it.

Not according to NOAA or USGS.

2. a GMD is basically a non stop EMP that lasts a while, and on a massive planetwide scale.

And the per volume intensity on the ground is negligible. The Carrington Event and 1989 Ontario blackout weren't caused by direct interference like an EMP, they were caused by the induction of telluric currents that compromised the circuit of the long-distance lines by turning ground into an input of considerable and unpredictable variance over time and location.

 

[mrttao]

Inside a giant metal box.

We have a term for this, hardening.
The problem is that giant metal boxes are expensive.
If you are a politician, why budget for giant metal boxes when you can make another gibs program or line your own pocket.
If you are a middle class person... you don't have the money to get all your stuff hardened against EMP or worse, GMD.
So in reality, the vast vast majority of stuff is unshielded

 

[Iconoclast]

A very good rundown on the WEF and their history:



There's also this two-parter on modern-day eugenics that ties into the stuff in the vid:

The New Eugenics Movement - Part 1

Did the infamous novel Brave New World turn out to be an instruction manual for psychopathic scientists?

www.arkmedic.info

The New Eugenics Movement - Part 2

The trillion dollar biotech network that wants to edit your genome to make you a better person, and wants us off social media.

www.arkmedic.info

 

[Captain X]

 

[Lord Sovereign]

To think, in my country in the 1990s, you could buy a big house for roughly a hundred thousand pounds (which was about four-five times the average salary). Now you’re looking at about half a million and upwards.

The sheer mismanagement of housing, from a labyrinthian nightmare of a planning system to driving demand through the roof with mass immigration, and allowing foreign oligarchs to hoover up properties at an obscene rate, has been among the more shocking bungles of the Post War paradigm.

 

[Bigking321]

Bungle?

No it's quite deliberate.

They don't want people owning their own houses.

They want the elites to own all the houses and for everyone to pay them rent for eternity.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

Bungle?

No it's quite deliberate.

They don't want people owning their own houses.

They want the elites to own all the houses and for everyone to pay them rent for eternity.

Again with this shit?

At heart the planning permission system is what fucked housing in my country and that was put in place in 1947. The WEF doesn’t even exist at that point, and whilst Clement Attlee was a bumbling socialist he wasn’t a Sith Lord who fed on the misery of others.

As ever, it is all down to a broken worldview smashing itself on reality. Far more tragic and far more dangerous.

 

[Bigking321]

Again with this shit?

At heart the planning permission system is what fucked housing in my country and that was put in place in 1947. The WEF doesn’t even exist at that point, and whilst Clement Attlee was a bumbling socialist he wasn’t a Sith Lord who fed on the misery of others.

For starters I didn't mention the WEF at all.

I mentioned elites. You're the one that brought the WEF up.

And I didn't realize from your comment we were discussing things from the forties.

To think, in my country in the 1990s, you could buy a big house for roughly a hundred thousand pounds (which was about four-five times the average salary). Now you’re looking at about half a million and upwards.

I thought we were talking about the change from the 90s as you said in your post.

If we are going farther back than the 90s I'd blame Woodrow Wilson and the creation of the federal reserve for a lot of current day problems.

Those were elites causing problems back then same as now. The WEF is just a label for a current elite club and I very much doubt it covers all of the elites involved in todays destruction of society.

 

[Cherico]

For starters I didn't mention the WEF at all.

I mentioned elites. You're the one that brought the WEF up.

And I didn't realize from your comment we were discussing things from the forties.

I thought we were talking about the change from the 90s as you said in your post.

If we are going farther back than the 90s I'd blame Woodrow Wilson and the creation of the federal reserve for a lot of current day problems.

Those were elites causing problems back then same as now. The WEF is just a label for a current elite club and I very much doubt it covers all of the elites involved in todays destruction of society.

I think you need to go much further back.

This whole movement modernity started with the french revolution and saw this all come to pass.


Also this is not unque same sort of thing happened when the roman republic died and just before the Chin took control of china. You had a class of people utterly dominate civilization, suck all wealth into themselves and act like entitled self rightous assholes, making everything about themselves.

This does not end well.

 

[Iconoclast]

This reminds me of all the shit I went through on SB over the years, trying to warn people about the coming techno-feudalism only to be mocked and rebuffed at every turn. Ten whole-ass years ago, I was saying that if we didn’t do something drastic, oligarchs would set themselves up as perpetual rentiers and force us all into serfdom underneath them. Granted, my perspective was a bit different back then; I actually advocated for a lot of the same things the Davos nutcases wanted, not realizing that shit was the Elites’ plan all along.

I cannot imagine how anyone could possibly be comfortable with what’s happening to us. The Elites are happily stripping us of our land and resources. If you have no property, then you also have no rights. If you rent everything you need to live (i.e. life under a Netflix subscription model), then all the powers-that-be need to do in order to cut you off entirely is to shut down your bank account, like the Canadian trucker protesters. This creates a mechanism for despicable and tyrannical acts of mass coercion.

Couldn’t people see it, even back then? This is where all the environmental rhetoric leads; a bunch of technocratic Malthusian wackos in power, deciding to ration shit out to the plebs at their leisure.

 

[Cherico]

This reminds me of all the shit I went through on SB over the years, trying to warn people about the coming techno-feudalism only to be mocked and rebuffed at every turn. Ten whole-ass years ago, I was saying that if we didn’t do something drastic, oligarchs would set themselves up as perpetual rentiers and force us all into serfdom underneath them. Granted, my perspective was a bit different back then; I actually advocated for a lot of the same things the Davos nutcases wanted, not realizing that shit was the Elites’ plan all along.

I cannot imagine how anyone could possibly be comfortable with what’s happening to us. The Elites are happily stripping us of our land and resources. If you have no property, then you also have no rights. If you rent everything you need to live (i.e. life under a Netflix subscription model), then all the powers-that-be need to do in order to cut you off entirely is to shut down your bank account, like the Canadian trucker protesters. This creates a mechanism for despicable and tyrannical acts of mass coercion.

Couldn’t people see it, even back then? This is where all the environmental rhetoric leads; a bunch of technocratic Malthusian wackos in power, deciding to ration shit out to the plebs at their leisure.

You are right about their plans and like I said earlier this has happened before like numerous times.

Their not going to win this, quite simply put their incomptent and evil and will be more so as time goes on, their getting purged. Thats the end point.

Either the plebs rise up and install a populist caesar to purge them or one of their own sees the writing on the wall and purges his fellows with the help of the plebs for the sake of survival. Their trying to create an empire but an empire only needs one emperor. The inherit logic is to purge the rivials AKA all of the people fucking things up.

 

[mrttao]

Either the plebs rise up and install a populist caesar to purge them or one of their own sees the writing on the wall and purges his fellows with the help of the plebs for the sake of survival.

Elon musk is kinda doing it.
He is a liberal that is buddy buddy with WEF.
One of the biggest arms dealers in the USA.
but not fully in on all their insane crap. (although being personally burned by it might be part of it)
and has set himself up as the figurehead of "free speech" with twatter. (but not TOO MUCH free speech).

 

[Cherico]

Elon musk is kinda doing it.
He is a liberal that is buddy buddy with WEF.
One of the biggest arms dealers in the USA.
but not fully in on all their insane crap. (although being personally burned by it might be part of it)
and has set himself up as the figurehead of "free speech" with twatter. (but not TOO MUCH free speech).

He's just the first of many defectors

 

[Vyor]

Elon musk is kinda doing it.
He is a liberal that is buddy buddy with WEF.
One of the biggest arms dealers in the USA.
but not fully in on all their insane crap. (although being personally burned by it might be part of it)
and has set himself up as the figurehead of "free speech" with twatter. (but not TOO MUCH free speech).

... arms dealers??????