Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum

[Marduk]

Yes, worrying about the annihilation of my country in nuclear hellfire because a bunch of suicidal boomers

And that sentence proves definitely how clueless are you about the situation. You are either repeating someone else's dramatics you heard in some niche social media channel, or arrived to the same bullshit position by yourself, and neither makes you look competent.
Get a grip on yourself and stop acting like greens who worry about end of the world by muh climate change and hippies who worry about the end of the world because of above logic too.

want one last hurrah is such a waste of time. That was fucking pathetic Marduck, comments like that are low effort even by the standards of facebook fatties.

Is that the social media you take this bullshit from, zuckbook?

oh, and in case you're wondering why the WEF/Beijing combine is pushing for this bullshit so hard.

Oh, it's the bird app then.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

And that sentence proves definitely how clueless are you about the situation. You are either repeating someone else's dramatics you heard in some niche social media channel, or arrived to the same bullshit position by yourself, and neither makes you look competent.

Right, of course, because a dying, desperate people with their backs to a wall won't try for a mutual kill? Thing is, even if its just an empty threat, neither you nor your countrymen are worth someone else issuing that threat against the US.

Is that the social media you take this bullshit from, zuckbook?

Y'know, ya reached levels of desperation a few attempts back but calling me a sycophant for Gweiberg when I got banned on this site for saying he should be thrown in a blacksite back when the uniparty shills ran the forum...is the height of sad.

Oh, it's the bird app then.

My hatred and contempt for geopolitical "experts" and the nightfires they throw orphans in at places like Bohemian Grove is such that I'd take the word of a homeless schizo over someone who worked in the state department.

I don't even think DOS employees should even be allowed to vote anymore, such is my hatred for the institutions that have raped our nation, plundered our empire and committed genocide against our children.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

kek, another L for the globalist cabal...

 

[Marduk]

Right, of course, because a dying, desperate people with their backs to a wall won't try for a mutual kill? Thing is, even if its just an empty threat, neither you nor your countrymen are worth someone else issuing that threat against the US.

And screw you right back too.
If you are going to get bossed around by any shithole with nuclear weapons and willingness to print out threats like they're going out of style because that's free and westerners have no spines because muh dooming, you may as well not bother with anything, including having a country at all.

Y'know, ya reached levels of desperation a few attempts back but calling me a sycophant for Gweiberg when I got banned on this site for saying he should be thrown in a blacksite back when the uniparty shills ran the forum...is the height of sad.



My hatred and contempt for geopolitical "experts" and the nightfires they throw orphans in at places like Bohemian Grove is such that I'd take the word of a homeless schizo over someone from Kissinger's school of thought.

Ah, ok, so here's a different geopolitical expert sharing your great worries about nuclear hellfire, he may be on your level.

Noam Chomsky: “We’re approaching the most dangerous point in human history”

The US professor, now 93, on the climate catastrophe and the threat of nuclear war.

www.newstatesman.com

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Its laughable to think that the US government would be in any state to enforce anything after a full scale nuclear exchange.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

And screw you right back too.
If you are going to get bossed around by any shithole with nuclear weapons and willingness to print out threats like they're going out of style because that's free and westerners have no spines because muh dooming, you may as well not bother with anything, including having a country at all.

No, see any shitole with nuclear capacity that dares threaten the US over American citizens and an America First Agenda can get their governments psyopped, their nations overthrown, and their resources pillaged..so long as those resources go right into the pockets of American citizens and no one else.

A nuclear power threatens nuclear war with us because some Arctic Hutus want to relive the good ol'days and hunt some Russians for sport? Meh fuck 'em...What have they done for us lately? Apart from bleeding our resources, giving our IC pretexts to stage false flags to expand their authority and so on?

Ah, ok, so here's a different geopolitical expert sharing your great worries about nuclear hellfire, he may be on your level.

Noam Chomsky: “We’re approaching the most dangerous point in human history”

The US professor, now 93, on the climate catastrophe and the threat of nuclear war.

www.newstatesman.com

....This isn't 2005, Monkeyfaced George ain't in office and citing a 97 year old pedophile in a neocon roundabout just makes you look even worse.

Its laughable to think that the US government would be in any state to enforce anything after a full scale nuclear exchange.

There wouldn't be a full-scale nuclear exchange, in any case the threat is what I take issue with. Russia cannot nuke us, they can threaten us...our Intelligence Community can then detonate a tactical nuclear warhead in a major American city, giving the bureaucracy the pretext it needs to fully takeover.

Which the US IC absolutely would do.

They pulled off the Gulf of Tonkin, the FBI/CIA caused 9-11, etc.

 

[Marduk]

No, see any shitole with nuclear capacity that dares threaten the US over American citizens and an America First Agenda can get their governments psyopped, their nations overthrown, and their resources pillaged..so long as those resources go right into the pockets of American citizens and no one else.

A nuclear power threatens nuclear war with us because some Arctic Hutus want to relive the good ol'days and hunt some Russians for sport? Meh fuck 'em...What have they done for us lately? Apart from bleeding our resources, giving our IC pretexts to stage false flags to expand their authority and so on?

Who cares about the specific reasons behind it? It's the same threat, the same countries, the same logic. Either it's worth considering or not. Isolationist delusions about ignoring the world aside, if you let yourself be pushed around with mere threats, may as well fold in general.

....This isn't 2005, Monkeyfaced George ain't in office and citing a 97 year old pedophile in a neocon roundabout just makes you look even worse.

So the monkeyface commie pedophile can be a consistently retarded leftist pushing a retarded and cucked foreign policy for nearly a century, but suddenly for reasons unknown i should adopt the exact same retarded foreign policy with the exact same retarded arguments behind it to own the libs\neocons\WEF\whatever? Sorry, that's too much nonsense for me.

There wouldn't be a full-scale nuclear exchange, in any case the threat is what I take issue with. Russia cannot nuke us, they can threaten us...our Intelligence Community can then detonate a tactical nuclear warhead in a major American city, giving the bureaucracy the pretext it needs to fully takeover.

Which the US IC absolutely would do.

They pulled off the Gulf of Tonkin, the FBI/CIA caused 9-11, etc.

Implying that if they had the will and ability to do that, they would need Russia to exist for it, nevermind saber rattle angrily. There's always Iran, if not Iran then North Korea, if not North Korea then China, and even without China, there would always be the classic "domestic terrorists".

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Who cares about the specific reasons behind it? It's the same threat, the same countries, the same logic. Either it's worth considering or not. Isolationist delusions about ignoring the world aside, if you let yourself be pushed around with mere threats, may as well fold in general.

Only American lives matter, ergo, the only time a violent response should be warranted is if American's are in danger.

So the monkeyface commie pedophile can be a consistently retarded leftist pushing a retarded and cucked foreign policy for nearly a century, but suddenly for reasons unknown i should adopt the exact same retarded foreign policy with the exact same retarded arguments behind it to own the libs\neocons\WEF\whatever? Sorry, that's too much nonsense for me.

Noam Chomsky's foreign policy boils down to "Gibsdats, for everyonez"

That's little different than the modern neocon foreign policy.

I'm advocating, "fuck the world, only what happens in the Americas has any value."

Implying that if they had the will and ability to do that, they would need Russia to exist for it, nevermind saber rattle angrily. There's always Iran, if not Iran then North Korea, if not North Korea then China, and even without China, there would always be the classic "domestic terrorists".

They've done it repeatedly throughout US history, always engineering overseas drama that benefits Europe and China or both over us.

 

[Marduk]

Only American lives matter, ergo, the only time a violent response should be warranted is if American's are in danger.

Great foreign policy for a 16 year old. Good luck having any allies with that attitude.

Noam Chomsky's foreign policy boils down to "Gibsdats, for everyonez"

That's little different than the modern neocon foreign policy.

I specifically linked to the video where he pushes the same "OMG USA should not support Ukraine because nuclear DOOM!!!" meme you just did for a reason.
I've spent enough years arguing against this and other leftists pushing this crap in various context to not accept the same bullshit coming from other, often also exotic parts of the political spectrum.

I'm advocating, "fuck the world, only what happens in the Americas has any value."


They've done it repeatedly throughout US history, always engineering overseas drama that benefits Europe and China or both over us.

Lemme wait for when you reach the stage where you realize that many countries together are stronger.

 

[Bassoe]

There wouldn't be a full-scale nuclear exchange, in any case the threat is what I take issue with. Russia cannot nuke us, they can threaten us...our Intelligence Community can then detonate a tactical nuclear warhead in a major American city, giving the bureaucracy the pretext it needs to fully takeover.

Which the US IC absolutely would do.

They pulled off the Gulf of Tonkin, the FBI/CIA caused 9-11, etc.

Implying that if they had the will and ability to do that, they would need Russia to exist for it, nevermind saber rattle angrily. There's always Iran, if not Iran then North Korea, if not North Korea then China, and even without China, there would always be the classic "domestic terrorists".

I'm less worried about a false flag by the security state, more about unintended escalation. The security state might be smart enough to just give up once Ukraine finishes losing and keep the money and civil rights they stole from us as a consolation prize, the Ukrainians are losing anyway so they'd escalate if given an opportunity.

My assumptions being:

• Ukraine is fucked unless they can bait NATO into fighting their war for them, in which case everyone's fucked on account of nuclear apocalypse.
• Ukraine is being ran by fanatics who would prefer to conscript their country's whole population into a meatgrinder and burn the whole planet with a nuclear war over doing the logical thing and either agreeing to Russia's demands not to join NATO or running off with as much money as they can carry and taking up new careers as overpaid public speakers representing the "Ukrainian goverment in exile" for foreigners.
• Ukraine has already demonstrated willingness to attempt false flags for that purpose, see the "Russian missile strike on Poland" from last year for proof.
• Ukraine has the capacity to destroy their own nuclear plant.

Therefore, if the US is willing to go to war if the nuclear plant is destroyed, Ukraine might destroy the plant themselves to get themselves some backup. Which means civilization-destroying nuclear war.

Lemme wait for when you reach the stage where you realize that many countries together are stronger.

Diminishing returns. A nation's "strength" is dependent on two criteria:

• Resource extraction and manufacturing independence, so the nation is invulnerable against economic attacks like sanctioning and being dragged into war to conquer or protect foreigners.
• Nuclear deterrent, so the nation is invulnerable against outright military force, not because they can win, but because they can ensure any hypothetical attacker also loses.

Ukraine has neither of these, America is missing the first one and has the second commanded by absolute lunatics whose willingness to launch under circumstances besides an outright invasion of America itself indicates they should be removed from power and ideally, consigned to an insane asylum.

 

[Marduk]

I'm less worried about a false flag by the security state, more about unintended escalation. The security state might be smart enough to just give up once Ukraine finishes losing and keep the money and civil rights they stole from us as a consolation prize, the Ukrainians are losing anyway so they'd escalate if given an opportunity.

My assumptions being:

• Ukraine is fucked unless they can bait NATO into fighting their war for them, in which case everyone's fucked on account of nuclear apocalypse.
• Ukraine is being ran by fanatics who would prefer to conscript their country's whole population into a meatgrinder and burn the whole planet with a nuclear war over doing the logical thing and either agreeing to Russia's demands not to join NATO or running off with as much money as they can carry and taking up new careers as overpaid public speakers representing the "Ukrainian goverment in exile" for foreigners.
• Ukraine has already demonstrated willingness to attempt false flags for that purpose, see the "Russian missile strike on Poland" from last year for proof.
• Ukraine has the capacity to destroy their own nuclear plant.

That presumes the Russian propaganda line about Ukrainian leadership being the worst and losing the war. Which obviously, now especially, is confirmed to have little contact with reality, as such terrible leadership would have lost the war in much shorter time already, yet now we aren't even discussion when will Ukraine lose the war anymore, but whether Russia will manage to hold the land it occupies, quite a perspective shift there.
As such, anything based on that line of thinking i decree as fucking ridiculous, so no silly scaremongering with certain keywords for me please, it just sours me further on your other arguments if you include it.

Therefore, if the US is willing to go to war if the nuclear plant is destroyed, Ukraine might destroy the plant themselves to get themselves some backup. Which means civilization-destroying nuclear war.

Diminishing returns. A nation's "strength" is dependent on two criteria:

• Resource extraction and manufacturing independence, so the nation is invulnerable against economic attacks like sanctioning and being dragged into war to conquer or protect foreigners.
• Nuclear deterrent, so the nation is invulnerable against outright military force, not because they can win, but because they can ensure any hypothetical attacker also loses.

Ukraine has neither of these, America is missing the first one and has the second commanded by absolute lunatics whose willingness to launch under circumstances besides an outright invasion of America itself indicates they should be removed from power and ideally, consigned to an insane asylum.

No highly developed economy in existence meets the first point, even universally recognized world powers as you mention one, so it's easy to make unrealistic standards and then talk shit about any country of choice for not meeting them.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Great foreign policy for a 16 year old. Good luck having any allies with that attitude.

Allies that have been nothing but deadweight since the 1980's?
Great foreign policy for a 16 year old. Good luck having any allies with that attitude.

I specifically linked to the video where he pushes the same "OMG USA should not support Ukraine because nuclear DOOM!!!" meme you just did for a reason.

And I just said, I don't believe Russia could actually do that, but that the CIA/FBI/NSA not only could do that, but they've done it before on US soil. Both attacks on the old WTC were Fed ops. Oklahoma City was a Fed Op gone off the rails when they lost control of their pet maniac. the Unabomber was a product of MKultra and so on.

My opinion about the Ukraine and Russia is that I don't differentiate between them and central African nations, in fact I don't distinguish between any of you guys and fourth world shitholes run by fourth world tinpots.

I'm saying you don't matter, your vendetta against Russia doesn't matter, what Russia does to you doesn't matter and what you do to Russia in turn also doesn't matter.

Wanna go kill 'em all? Dun care. just don't do it on our dime - because the parasites of the dying old world don't have a right to feast on the bounty of the Americas....We outgrew you stagnant fatalists, we're done with you, we don't need you anymore and you've taken advantage of us for too long.

So go and do your thing...leave us out of it.

Lemme wait for when you reach the stage where you realize that many countries together are stronger.

A lion with ticks and tape worms is little more than an undernourished hunter with an infestation.

our allies fucking suck...the UK and Japan are the only exceptions to that rule and England oppresses its own people and bows to a bunch of big gay germans who cucked their royals out of their own throne a few centuries back..so they're iffy.

At least Japan isn't trying to inflict trannies on us and force our borders to absorb more mouths to feed, while demanding our jobs.

 

[Marduk]

Allies that have been nothing but deadweight since the 1980's?

How many wars you had since then without getting dozens of them to join?

And I just said, I don't believe Russia could actually do that, but that the CIA/FBI/NSA not only could do that, but they've done it before on US soil. Both attacks on the old WTC were Fed ops. Oklahoma City was a Fed Op gone off the rails when they lost control of their pet maniac. the Unabomber was a product of MKultra and so on.

And as i just said, if they could and wanted to, they wouldn't need Russia to even exist for it, and your random listing of weirdo conspiracy theories doesn't make it any more credible for the record.

My opinion about the Ukraine and Russia is that I don't differentiate between them and central African nations, in fact I don't distinguish between any of you guys and fourth world shitholes run by fourth world tinpots.

Well then, if you don't know and don't care, stop shouting your self-admittedly poorly informed opinion from the rooftops at other people.

I'm saying you don't matter, your vendetta against Russia doesn't matter, what Russia does to you doesn't matter and what you do to Russia in turn also doesn't matter.

Then make it official that you don't care about global nuclear proliferation or having alliances and see what happens next, Mr. I'm So Worried About Global Nuclear War Risk.
Fortunately for everyone on the planet, you are not in charge of US foreign policy though.

Wanna go kill 'em all? Dun care. just don't do it on our dime - because the parasites of the dying old world don't have a right to feast on the bounty of the Americas....We outgrew you stagnant fatalists, we're done with you, we don't need you anymore and you've taken advantage of us for too long.

So go and do your thing...leave us out of it.

Win an election with your isolationist fringe if you want to not look like a joke making pronouncements for your whole country.

At least Japan isn't trying to inflict trannies on us and force our borders to absorb more mouths to feed, while demanding our jobs.

And which of those things Poland or Ukraine are doing?

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

And as i just said, if they could and wanted to, they wouldn't need Russia to even exist for it, and your random listing of weirdo conspiracy theories doesn't make it any more credible for the record.

Make's it more credible than any of your stances though, because you're citing the people who have wrecked the world and doing it because you have a cultural animus with the Russian.

You want to undermine my country, so you can relive your ancestors BTFOing them in cavalry raids.

I find that objectionable.

 

[Marduk]

Make's it more credible than any of your stances though, because you're citing the people who have wrecked the world and doing it because you have a cultural animus with the Russian.

You want to undermine my country, so you can relive your ancestors BTFOing them in cavalry raids.

I find that objectionable.

No, your country undermining Russia doesn't undermine your country, get out of whatever weirdo ideological bubble you are in.
Also we had "cultural animus with Russia" long before 2022, even 2014, so no, it's about other, more... material events in the world.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

No, your country undermining Russia doesn't undermine your country, get out of whatever weirdo ideological bubble you are in.
Also we had "cultural animus with Russia" long before 2022, even 2014, so no, it's about other, more... material events in the world.

Undermining Russia for you, undermines us, because it means doing something for someone other than an American.

What part of "You don't deserve our effort or energy" is so hard to comprehend? We aren't your fucking janitors, nor your champions. Also, there is no material concerns for you, you've got a thousand years of hate in you, the tangible shit is just a pretext.

 

[Marduk]

Undermining Russia for you, undermines us, because it means doing something for someone other than an American.

What part of "You don't deserve our effort or energy" is so hard to comprehend? We aren't your fucking janitors, nor your champions.

You are not our therapist, nor even in charge of your country, or representative of your public opinion.
So whatever, go yell at a street corner at the about 70% of your compatriots who vehemently disagree. That's not leftists, or some knife edge 50.1% majority, so you can stop with the royal we.

Also, there is no material concerns for you, you've got a thousand years of hate in you, the tangible shit is just a pretext.

So not only America is lucky you're not in charge of its foreign policy, we're lucky that you're not in charge of our foreign policy either, because if you were, we would be willfully blind to the very material security interests of our country in the east.

 

[Bacle]

Allies that have been nothing but deadweight since the 1980's?
Great foreign policy for a 16 year old. Good luck having any allies with that attitude.


And I just said, I don't believe Russia could actually do that, but that the CIA/FBI/NSA not only could do that, but they've done it before on US soil. Both attacks on the old WTC were Fed ops. Oklahoma City was a Fed Op gone off the rails when they lost control of their pet maniac. the Unabomber was a product of MKultra and so on.

My opinion about the Ukraine and Russia is that I don't differentiate between them and central African nations, in fact I don't distinguish between any of you guys and fourth world shitholes run by fourth world tinpots.

I'm saying you don't matter, your vendetta against Russia doesn't matter, what Russia does to you doesn't matter and what you do to Russia in turn also doesn't matter.

Wanna go kill 'em all? Dun care. just don't do it on our dime - because the parasites of the dying old world don't have a right to feast on the bounty of the Americas....We outgrew you stagnant fatalists, we're done with you, we don't need you anymore and you've taken advantage of us for too long.

So go and do your thing...leave us out of it.



A lion with ticks and tape worms is little more than an undernourished hunter with an infestation.

our allies fucking suck...the UK and Japan are the only exceptions to that rule and England oppresses its own people and bows to a bunch of big gay germans who cucked their royals out of their own throne a few centuries back..so they're iffy.

At least Japan isn't trying to inflict trannies on us and force our borders to absorb more mouths to feed, while demanding our jobs.

Dude, you are an accelerationist who is only an immigrant to this nation, and brought your bullshit with you from your home nation thinking the US public would be widely receptive.

Hint? The US public is a lot, lot different than you imagine, is not as head-in-the-sand oreinted as you, not as resentful towards allies (and Poland is a useful ally, compared to most others in their neighborhood), and a lot of the US public have living family connections to one nation or another in Europe.

The idea nothing that happens to anyone outside America, or without affecting Americans directly, matters to us is just you being unwilling to admit when time and again this has shown to just not be the case.

Edit: The US isn't going to go isolationist again, even if parts of the Far-Right and Libertarians fantasize about doing so, and teh sooner people give up on that foolish notion, the sooner they can stop wasting everyone's time.

 

[DarthOne]

No. I don’t think we will ‘give up’ our ideas of not being globalist attack dogs.

 

[Bigking321]

Holy crap...

Look the Ukraine Russia War is a hot topic.

Can we please not derail every thread anytime that something even tangentially brushes it?