Jussie Smollett's Lawyers: "Even if actor faked attack, it was cops’ call to investigate it so vigorously"

I've met them and the long and short of it?

They don't think in the long term, and if they do their plan is to simply take their cash and assets and flee to another country, and to be fair for a very long period that has been possible because the pax americana has ensured that every one can trade with every one else with little problems for the last 70 fucking years.

But America doesn't want to spend the blood and treasure to maintain some thing like that, which means geography matters again which means that if america goes into the revolution there will be a very small number of countries to flee too and those countries will likely be burning down because of woke bullshit too.


so in other words, everyone thinks they are invincible until they are dragged through the street by an angry mob. By then it's too late.
 
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Urabrask Revealed

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I've met them and the long and short of it?

They don't think in the long term, and if they do their plan is to simply take their cash and assets and flee to another country, and to be fair for a very long period that has been possible because the pax americana has ensured that every one can trade with every one else with little problems for the last 70 fucking years.

But America doesn't want to spend the blood and treasure to maintain some thing like that, which means geography matters again which means that if america goes into the revolution there will be a very small number of countries to flee too and those countries will likely be burning down because of woke bullshit too.
I believe that their primary hideout, New Zealand, will buy them at best ten years. After that, everyone's going to descend on their tiny island and lynch them.
 

LordsFire

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I really don't get it. What do these people think they will gain in the long term by stoking the fires of hate like racial tension? What happens when everything comes to a head and society implode in a revolution? Do these people not read history? When the shoe finally drops and hummanity regresses in revolution, the rich and powerful are typically the first to go. I think marie antonite and Tsar Nickolas would testify to that if they could.

This actually ties into the most despicable part of the whole thing.

On some level, the race grifters know that the people they villify, are actually profoundly moral, with strong bonds of self-restraint.

If a tenth of America were actually as racist as people like Maxine Waters claim, every one of these intersectionalists and black politicians would have been lynched, or found floating face-down in a river.

It's only the fact that the people they've chosen as enemies are factually not anything like these psychos claim, that means the slanderers can get away with all of their lies. And every time that they come out with a new batch of lies, it reinforces to these people that their enemies won't actually do anything about it.

And unless we actually get to the point where it's police-state resist and maybe die or just die, they probably never will see a large-scale violent backlash.
 

Husky_Khan

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And so the Shitlording begins...



#LetsGoJussie


 
This actually ties into the most despicable part of the whole thing.

On some level, the race grifters know that the people they villify, are actually profoundly moral, with strong bonds of self-restraint.

If a tenth of America were actually as racist as people like Maxine Waters claim, every one of these intersectionalists and black politicians would have been lynched, or found floating face-down in a river.

It's only the fact that the people they've chosen as enemies are factually not anything like these psychos claim, that means the slanderers can get away with all of their lies. And every time that they come out with a new batch of lies, it reinforces to these people that their enemies won't actually do anything about it.

And unless we actually get to the point where it's police-state resist and maybe die or just die, they probably never will see a large-scale violent backlash.


it's just one of those things were I say to these people "Well excuse me for wanting to make MLKs dream a reality. Whether the guy had communist ties or not, I don't think the idea of judging people by their fruits as opposed to outward appearance is a bad idea. Heck I'm pretty sure it's a biblical principle.

I know people will disagree with me on this but I don't mind the US being multi-racial heck the fact that we were (and I argue still are) able to attract people from all over the world and come together in a melting pot that takes the positive parts of other cultures and separates them from the negative parts to be a pretty cool thing, heck that used to be one of the key parts of American Exceptionalism, can every nation do it? no, and I don't expect them to. It wouldn't be called American Exceptionalism if everyone could do it.

But it seems like people are taking this great unique aspect of the US and twist it for their own personal game. Rather than try to unite they try to divide. Rather than try to embrace the good parts about a culture and try to separate the bad parts, they try to enforce moral relativism all so they can exploit demography for votes.

I get that the fall of all nations is inevitable and it's in man's nature to destroy itself, but I still won't deny the fact that when America falls it will be a great loss for mankind and people won't realize what we had till it is but a memory and a legend that much like Rome, people will try to imitate but will only create a corrupt parody of.

So I guess to sum up, if people want to know why I want to save America and not breakout into revolution and balkinization, it's because I think America was and still can be the best nation that has been seen in over a millennia and I WILL NOT apologize for saying so. It took hard work and time to make us exceptional before, and I think with hard work and time we can be exceptional again except this time most of the heavy lifting has been done by our ancestors, we just have to make sure to rember and keep their sacrifice. If people want to say that makes me a "white supremacist" or on the oppisite end "progressive slime", then all I have to say is "shove it up your pooper."
 
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Honestly, I get so weirded out when people call on the "Melting Pot" analogy to defend groups having highly distinct sub-cultures as a good thing.

The entire POINT of a Melting Pot is to do the exact freaking opposite.


eh, there is a difference between taking the good parts of other culture's and assimilating them into your own, and having highly distinct sub-cultures that don't really interact and in many way rival each other. Still, maybe a better phrase would be "The Great Library of Ideas."

what we a dealing with right now is a mixed salad which basically means we fractured and balkanized to the point that the only thing keeping us together is the fact that we are in the same bowl. That's not a stable place to be in.

honestly if I could rank them. Library of ideas>melting pot> mixed salad
 

Morphic Tide

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Honestly, I get so weirded out when people call on the "Melting Pot" analogy to defend groups having highly distinct sub-cultures as a good thing.
Canada's open about the basic structure, calling it a "cultural mosaic". Enshrining ghettoization as a policy goal, pretty blatant issues arise damned near instantly, because people with incompatible beliefs living face-to-face doesn't work.

Rome's success was the "melting pot" approach of looting everything that worked and assimilating peoples, the Mongols ran a "cultural mosaic" empire because they gave no fucks about the beliefs of those they ruled over.

The key thing to note is that the Muslims ruled a "cultural mosaic" formed of the pre-existing spread of nations left alone. Meanwhile, Canada imports people expecting them to segregate nearly as hard, if not harder, than Jim Crow.

It works for an empire because the different cultures need never have widespread friction, they just share a boss who takes ideas from each as appropriate. It doesn't work inside a city because that friction will be on every social scale possible.

Edit: I'll elaborate on the last line there. "Every social scale possible" is my belief because, to my understanding, you don't really get such cultural friction between discrete settlements, because the bulk of the population doesn't interact.

Unless, of course, there's a Strong Government to leverage with in-group bias. Dearborn is only liable to be a broad problem in the state of Michigan because of having a powerful representative government, as the mandate clusterfuck shows.

If the government is strictly decentralized or held strongly by low-intervention outsiders, then they don't have a club to beat eachother over the head with from beyond routine interaction distance. Such was the Mongol practice.

And yes, this generalizes to justify central governments being either weak or disinterested in the majority. That's why the US is a Federal Republic, we're not supposed to have California and New York be fucking with "flyover country."

E2: Basically, Cultural Mosaics work if the separate cultures aren't forced to actually live with eachother and lack an external means of oppressing eachother. Modern examples fail both requirements, due to urbanization and government mission creep.
 
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Bassoe

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I really don't get it. What do these people think they will gain in the long term by stoking the fires of hate like racial tension? What happens when everything comes to a head and society implode in a revolution? Do these people not read history? When the shoe finally drops and hummanity regresses in revolution, the rich and powerful are typically the first to go. I think marie antonite and Tsar Nickolas would testify to that if they could.
I imagine either:
  • They're trusting in technological solutions rendering populist strikes and revolts irreverent by the time societal collapse gets bad enough to otherwise cause them.
  • They're not thinking that far ahead, just fawning over the short-term benefits of getting the peasantry fighting each other rather than them.
  • They're deliberately trying to cause a far-right uprising, just in time to shift the overton window to allow for shooting climate migrants on sight and reinvading africa and the middle east using tactics that work against guerrillas hiding among local citizens before the climate crisis and peak oil and rare earth ores strike.
 
I imagine either:
  • They're trusting in technological solutions rendering populist strikes and revolts irreverent by the time societal collapse gets bad enough to otherwise cause them.
  • They're not thinking that far ahead, just fawning over the short-term benefits of getting the peasantry fighting each other rather than them.
  • They're deliberately trying to cause a far-right uprising, just in time to shift the overton window to allow for shooting climate migrants on sight and reinvading africa and the middle east using tactics that work against guerrillas hiding among local citizens before the climate crisis and peak oil and rare earth ores strike.

what does the last point have anything to do with anything?
 

Bassoe

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what does the last point have anything to do with anything?
Right now, if the elites decided they wanted to simply have the inhabitants of third world countries they invaded indiscriminately massacred to prevent guerrilla warfare against their occupiers, the public wouldn't support them. If however, the pushback to decades of deliberately inflammatory propaganda had created a radical right wing/fascist movement, such war crimes could come back into the overton window.


Then throw climate change and the possibility of the entirety of africa and the middle east trying to migrate to the northern hemisphere and peak oil/rare earth ores and the need for stable resource-extraction infrastructure in what are currently warzones and you have something catastrophic in the making.
 

Hlaalu Agent

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I don't understand why the leftoid media is suddenly jumping to this clowns defense.

Because he is one of them. One of the anointed class that is better than us peasants. One of the new Pharisees, The Elect, the Priest-Kings of a New Egypt. And in simpler terms, he is an elite, they are elites, so they are going to stick out for them. Elites gonna elite.
 

Cherico

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Because he is one of them. One of the anointed class that is better than us peasants. One of the new Pharisees, The Elect, the Priest-Kings of a New Egypt. And in simpler terms, he is an elite, they are elites, so they are going to stick out for them. Elites gonna elite.

still at the end of the day he was caught red fucking handed, so the smart thing is just to wash your hands of the guy and say he lied to you. Doubling down on bullshit just fucks you harder.
 

Hlaalu Agent

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still at the end of the day he was caught red fucking handed, so the smart thing is just to wash your hands of the guy and say he lied to you. Doubling down on bullshit just fucks you harder.

As Unabrask said, this is ingroup loyalty. He is one of the annoyi- anointed ones. They don't care he did something wrong, they don't care about the opinion of the plebs, he is one of theirs and they'll defend him until it becomes impossible to do so...and then some.
 

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