Given how badly excuted and obvious his fake crime was, this may in fact be the best route available to them, yes.
Jussie Smollett's Lawyers: "Even if actor faked attack, it was cops’ call to investigate it so vigorously"
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Given how badly excuted and obvious his fake crime was, this may in fact be the best route available to them, yes.
ShadowsOfParadox
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it'd be the same AG until at least the investigation is over.
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To be honest, I feel that continuing to investigate Smollett is just giving him more publicity and that the longer he is in the eye of the media, the more the truth will be obscured, and the more he will benefit from that publicity. They should have made mock of him and then just had everyone forget about it.
Eh, so and so. The fact that his case got as public as it did was the main reason there was so much outrage when the prosecutor tried to get him off scot free which caused a reaction from the government. By keeping him squarely in the public eye it means that he won't be forgotten about and allowed to try and pull a repeat. It also prevents what normally happens for hate hoaxes wherein the media do a tiny piece on it and try and have the public forget it ever happened.
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I think that a sensible measure would be to actually focus the debate on whether or not a prosecutorial policy of letting people pay restitution to get out of minor first-time felonies makes sense. To be honest, I think it has real merit. The bigger problem is the fact that the agreement didn't include an acceptance of civil liability to force Smollett to pay all the costs of the investigation as a condition of the no-prosecution agreement.
While that's fair enough, the case in question to my knowledge had him only doing community service for what was a pretty major hoax. As is, I'm 90% sure that the case to make him pay for the costs was the police department's attempt to both ensure the truth got out and to maintain it's own honor/reputation because people were starting to try and say that they'd lied about it.
ShadowsOfParadox
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and "people" here includes Jussie himself... you know, despite the fact that the program he supposedly benefitted from explicitly says "you're not allowed to say this means your innocent, because it doesn't."
Essentally what happened was this Juicy performed a hate hoax that got national attention then we found out it was a lie, his friends in the government sat him down and said ok man. Were going to make this all go away allright? All you have to do is lay low for a bit and this will all blow over.
Then he left that meeting put up both middle fingers and said "im innocent yall!" And made a giant public stink.
His allies then realized that stupidity was an incurable disease signed and then told the cops whatever.
Now their getting their pound of flesh smart move hand over the money and walk away, but we are not talking about a smart man.
Jussie is an afterthought now. I don't care how harshly he is punished. He deserves to be harshly punished.
But this investigation has as its main targets I think the corrupt and incompetent people who enabled him to avoid justice. Because if they did it on this occasion then you can bet your arse that they've done it before.
This case and how it was handled is a big neon sign advertising that 'justice' can be bought or illicitly obtained in Chicago even in a situation when the eyes of the entire media were on it. Even where it was so obvious what was going on. It was flagrant, it was virtually advertised.
If this is allowed to stand and heads don't roll it sets a horrible public precedent.
Edit: the truly amazing thing is that even the Chicago PD and mayor's office said it was stupid and not to do it. Jussie Smollet needed to face some real consequences whilst the heat was on. But the bureaucratic types were so incompetent that they even went against the police and mayor's office. Who if you want to be cynical about the latter at least know how to apply a fig leaf properly.
Jussie being a tone deaf moron didn't help the coverup sides cause either.
But this investigation has as its main targets I think the corrupt and incompetent people who enabled him to avoid justice. Because if they did it on this occasion then you can bet your arse that they've done it before.
This case and how it was handled is a big neon sign advertising that 'justice' can be bought or illicitly obtained in Chicago even in a situation when the eyes of the entire media were on it. Even where it was so obvious what was going on. It was flagrant, it was virtually advertised.
If this is allowed to stand and heads don't roll it sets a horrible public precedent.
Edit: the truly amazing thing is that even the Chicago PD and mayor's office said it was stupid and not to do it. Jussie Smollet needed to face some real consequences whilst the heat was on. But the bureaucratic types were so incompetent that they even went against the police and mayor's office. Who if you want to be cynical about the latter at least know how to apply a fig leaf properly.
Jussie being a tone deaf moron didn't help the coverup sides cause either.
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Ahh, the violation of rule number one: Listen to your lawyer.
It is pretty stupid, I mean that guy is a colossal idiot, but this is the sort of stupidity that even idiots try to avoid. I guess, it as as Mr. Gump says, "Stupid is as stupid does".
Lanmandragon
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I think she's the states attorney for cook county.
prinCZess
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In case anyone is curious, he was acquitted on one count of disorderly conduct that was for lying to a detective in interviews that happened a few weeks after the 'attack', while found guilty on all of them for lying to police in the immediate aftermath. I have not followed the case closely enough (and the article doesn't dive into it enough) to figure out why the difference. I presume there's maybe not a recording or something of the detective's interview, so that one is just Smollet's word versus his? I don't know...
Thus ends(?) the tale of the midnight sandwich-trip 'attack' by homophobic Chicago MAGA-ites.
Thus ends(?) the tale of the midnight sandwich-trip 'attack' by homophobic Chicago MAGA-ites.
he will likely just get a couple months tops and have to pay some fines, ironically if he had just kept his mouth shut and accepted his earilier slap on the risk this would have all been over by now.
The Rich do what they want. It's good this is shown to people over and again.
PsihoKekec
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At least Jussie Smollet can sleep peacefully now, knowing that his attacker has been convicted.
to be fair the man was a trail blaizer he was the first american to scam a nigerian.
KilroywasNOTHere
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I really don't get it. What do these people think they will gain in the long term by stoking the fires of hate like racial tension? What happens when everything comes to a head and society implode in a revolution? Do these people not read history? When the shoe finally drops and hummanity regresses in revolution, the rich and powerful are typically the first to go. I think marie antonite and Tsar Nickolas would testify to that if they could.
I've met them and the long and short of it?
They don't think in the long term, and if they do their plan is to simply take their cash and assets and flee to another country, and to be fair for a very long period that has been possible because the pax americana has ensured that every one can trade with every one else with little problems for the last 70 fucking years.
But America doesn't want to spend the blood and treasure to maintain some thing like that, which means geography matters again which means that if america goes into the revolution there will be a very small number of countries to flee too and those countries will likely be burning down because of woke bullshit too.