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If the lefts openly pro pedophillia stances aren't enough to make you abandon them then I really don't wanna be on your side anyways.
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If the lefts openly pro pedophillia stances aren't enough to make you abandon them then I really don't wanna be on your side anyways.
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Very true. Problem is, we’re talking about the military here and it’s tendency to follow orders and support the government. Not the average person.
ShieldWife
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I think that they have been trying to purge the military of conservatives as well. The leftist propaganda, vaccine mandates, “diversity” push, and the generally pointless conflicts are reducing the relative number of conservatives in the military. I’m sure this wii reduce their effectiveness, but it may make them more likely to side against the American people in the (hopefully unlikely) event of a conflict.
Blasterbot
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there is a reason they want to let criminal aliens join up
Carrot of Truth
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A vast majority of any migrants recruited will steal everything in sight and desert if it comes to a civil war.
King Arts
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Well it might be allowed pretty soon in exchange for citizenship or a green card since you guys are having trouble recruiting.
You have to be a green card holder currently iirc to join.
You can be nationalized by serving.
I had a German lady and a Ukrainian girl (the German lady was in her 30s Ukrainian in her 20s) in my basic
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Which means their efforts to purge Conservatives is working.
Prior to the Obama administration, the military was not seen as "heavily moderate", and as recently as 2012, the officer corps trended 2:1 Republican to Democrat and heavily favored Romney over Obama in that election.
The fact the military you see around you as "heavily moderate" is a new thing explicitly created by Obama and reinforced by the current administration to gut and reduce what historically was one of the few institutions that leaned reliably Republican and Conservative at the Federal level.
In other words, despite what you may think, the Democrats ARE succeeding in making the military more Progressive and less Conservative. In about a decade it has gone from reliably Republican and seen as Conservative to being "heavily moderate". If the Biden administration continues and another Dem is elected after trust me, the military will no longer be "heavily moderate" by the end of that period.
I mean...when you have old timer service members like @The Whispering Monk , @Sailor.X and @Tiamat you can generally see what is still the current landscape of the breakdown if the military.
Sailor and Tiamat are both moderates. Served WELL before me, and before Obama.
And remember what field I work in. The fact that the Intel community is moderate and not sucking off Biden and the dems is huge.
At least the military side.
Everyone hates the current admin just because if how horrible it is.
Infantry?
Still conservative.
SF community?
Honestly they are just....outthere and I can't speak for them.
I will give you the officer side of things.
But that is generally what happens when you have Nirmal colleges host programs and the academia world being corrupted.
Because west point professors, are military, but they do not have ti be from West point.
So you have officers that got commissions from other institutions with leftist ideals.
And the only way to fix it is have a president who is willing to gut any colonel and up who isn't competent or who is too politicized.
Let's hope Trump can do that.
I say the competent part because they are out there and are the ones adapting to what we see in Ukraine. Outside if them the rest can go.
Carrot of Truth
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The military specifically the guys who actually fight are always going to be conservative. Left wing men are inherently cowardly and weak, and they will only fight if they are forced to do so.
Supply, admin, and even parts of intel often have more left leanings just due to the nature of the jobs.
While combat arms is heavily right leaning due to the nature.
In the end though on the individual level we do not care about what others believe. We still fight side by side with them.
DarthOne
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I would have point to the Napoleonic era British army as a counterpoint (criminals were allowed to join to avoid jail in exchange for service) but I realized that they had more loyalty to their own nation and people then most people today do.
Plus, if they deserted they’d end up on the street of a foreign nation with none of the modern obsession of giving people gibs who don’t deserve them.
You needed far less investment in gear and training in that era for a viable army. Now it gets you an NK style army in terms of usefulness per man.
Who needs gibs when they have guns, company and a rich country in the middle of a war to loot?
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Nearly all of those illegals came here for purely economic reasons, If we are in a civil war situation the vast majority of them will just leave.
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After A Pause, Jan. 6 Arrests Are Now Sharply Increasing
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After A Pause, Jan. 6 Arrests Are Now Sharply Increasing | ZeroHedge
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The pace of FBI arrests and the opening of new Jan. 6 criminal cases quickened so much in late 2023 and early 2024 that District of Columbia federal courts could bend under the weight.
In the past two months, 93 people have been arrested and charged, according to Department of Justice (DOJ) reports.
At the current rate, some 445 new cases could hit the docket in 2024—more than in 2022 and 2023, according to one estimate.
In total, up to March 6, at least 1,358 people have been arrested by the FBI and criminally charged by the Department of Justice (DOJ) for crimes related to Jan. 6.
If the current trend is to hold, total arrests could be 2,150 by the time the statute of limitations on Jan. 6 crimes expires in early 2026, according to Jacob Rugh, associate professor of sociology at Brigham Young University in Provo, Utah. Mr. Rugh and researcher Isabella Felin have been publishing Jan. 6 statistics and data visualization on X and Instagram since August 2022.
William Shipley, a former federal prosecutor who has represented more than 50 Jan. 6 defendants, said he noticed an upswing in cases starting in September 2023.
"Within the past two months, three months, it seems like you're seeing six, eight, 10 a week," Mr. Shipley said on Feb. 23 during an Epoch Times panel discussion at the Conservative Political Action Conference in National Harbor, Maryland.
"Every day, every day you see two or three more," Mr. Shipley said. "My own view: it's a political operation. Just my personal opinion. I think the Department of Justice, the Biden administration, is committed to continuing to keep this story front and center for purposes of the campaign."
Mr. Shipley said there was a six- to eight-month pause in arrests and prosecutions starting in early 2023 due to the strain Jan. 6 cases put on D.C. federal courts.
"You've got a five-year statute of limitations, you don't need to arrest everybody and prosecute them in the first 18 months, and there was a pause," Mr. Shipley said. "There was a clear period of time where there weren't arrests of any significant number happening."
The top arrest states include Florida (129), Texas (104), Pennsylvania (93), California (90), New York (80), Ohio (71), and Virginia (67). Together they comprise nearly 50 percent of all Jan. 6 defendants, according to research by Mr. Rugh.
About 63 percent of Jan. 6 criminal cases have been adjudicated and defendants sentenced, according to DOJ figures. About 58 percent of defendants were given jail or prison time, 19 percent received home detention, and another 3.5 percent received a combination.
Of the 769 defendants who pleaded guilty to charges, 69 percent were for misdemeanors and 31 percent for felonies, the DOJ reports.
Some 1,276 defendants were charged with entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds, and 486 were charged with assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers.
More than 350 were hit with the controversial "corruptly obstructing, influencing or impeding an official proceeding" charge. The Supreme Court will hear oral arguments on April 16 on a challenge to how the DOJ has used 2002-era corporate fraud statutes to prosecute Jan. 6 defendants for interrupting the counting of Electoral College votes.
Perfect Conviction Rate
Perhaps the most remarkable Jan. 6 statistic comes from jury boxes in the E. Barrett Prettyman U.S. Courthouse in Washington D.C.
Every one of the more than 100 Jan. 6 defendants who chose a jury trial were found guilty of at least some of the charges. That's a perfect 100-percent conviction rate for federal prosecutors, a statistic cited repeatedly in change-of-venue motions. One hundred percent of those motions have been denied.
Mr. Shipley told The Epoch Times that the DOJ's historical conviction rate in the District of Columbia is about 65 percent, lower than the 90 percent that is "more typical" in other federal court districts.
He said, "The way the question needs to be framed today and put before the judges again is, 'How many trials and how high a conviction rate is necessary before the judges start to consider maybe it's not the evidence but the jurors?'"
District of Columbia jurors seated on Jan. 6 cases "are simply not open to listening to explanations from defendants who testify, or accept any of the 'progress' against the evidence made by defense counsel in cross-examination," Mr. Shipley said.
The DOJ has stated since Jan. 6 that finding, arresting, and prosecuting those who were at the U.S. Capitol is a top priority, carried out at "unprecedented speed and scale." The FBI launched the largest investigation in its history in response to Jan. 6.
Matthew Graves, the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, paints Jan. 6 in the dramatic tones of warfare as he pledges prosecutors will continue their work unabated into 2024 and beyond.
"In scenes often reminiscent of a medieval battle, officers engaged in hand-to-hand combat with members of the invading force, many of whom carried dangerous weapons including firearms, chemical sprays, tasers, stabbing weapons and makeshift weapons across the Capitol [grounds] and in the Capitol itself," Graves said on Jan. 6, 2024.
Jan. 6 was "likely the largest single-day mass assault of law enforcement officers in our nation's history," Mr. Graves said.
The preamble to the DOJ's monthly statistical update on Jan. 6 cases states: "The Department of Justice's resolve to hold accountable those who committed crimes on January 6, 2021, has not, and will not, wane."
Mr. Shipley said the pace of arrests helps perpetuate the idea that supporters of former President Donald Trump comprise a threat to society.
"They want to continue to have that argument that some portion of the political opposition is actually a criminal element," he said. "They use the branding of all these J6 defendants to say, 'See that sliver of the MAGA movement, they're insurrectionists, they're foes of democracy.'"
The prosecution posture was set early on.
Prosecution Machine
Not even three weeks after the Jan. 6 incursion, the DOJ named senior prosecutors to go after the Oath Keepers, Proud Boys, and other alleged "white nationalist" groups, according to internal documents obtained by Judicial Watch.
A document dated Jan. 25, 2021, named assistant U.S. attorneys to investigate and prosecute white nationalists and militias, the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers. Elmer Stewart Rhodes III, founder of the Oath Keepers who in 2023 was sentenced to 18 years in prison for seditious conspiracy and other charges, was named as an early target in a DOJ list obtained by Judicial Watch.
Mr. Rhodes was added to the target list on Jan. 11, 2021, and his case assigned to FBI special agent Michael Palian, who testified against Mr. Rhodes and other defendants in the first Oath Keepers trial in 2022. Mr. Rhodes was not indicted and arrested until Jan. 13, 2022.
"I'm not at all surprised that I was added to the target list on Jan. 11, 2021, long before there could have been any actual substantive investigation into me," Mr. Rhodes told The Epoch Times in an email. "Goes to show that 'show me the man, I'll show you the crime' was exactly their M.O."
Mr. Rhodes said the media set the tone for such a focus on the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys.
"The fixation on the Oath Keepers came first from the mass media, which immediately in the hours and days after the Trump supporters entered the Capitol began to highlight the row of Oath Keepers walking up the steps and breathlessly calling it a 'military stack formation' and alleging that the Oath Keepers were leading the crowd," Mr. Rhodes said.
"Total nonsense. But since Oath Keepers and Proud Boys were already the two groups the leftist media loved to demonize and focus on," Mr. Rhodes said, "no surprise those two groups became the focus of print and cable 'news' coverage of Jan. 6, spinning the false narrative that Oath Keepers and Proud Boys were 'central' to the events of Jan. 6 or were the 'leaders.'"
Rapid Indictment Team
According to the DOJ draft plan, a branch would be established for "Priority Incidents and Subjects," including the Jan. 6 pipe bombs, the shooting of Ashli Babbitt outside the Speaker's Lobby, the death of Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick, use-of-force allegations against Capitol Police and Metropolitan Police officers, and assaults on federal officers by rioters.
Another branch was to be established for priority investigations and rapid indictments and prosecution of Jan. 6 subjects. A branch would be established for "Advanced Litigation Support," including mass data collection, discovery for defendants, and technology support to "store, process, analyze, and produce the unprecedented amount of data."
Judicial Watch obtained the plan as part of a 2021 Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the DOJ.
"These documents detail a troubling and unprecedented deployment of federal resources to prosecute Americans caught up in the January 6 disturbance," Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said in a statement. "The documents seem to describe a massive political and spy operation masquerading as a law enforcement operation."
Treniss Evans, a former Jan. 6 defendant and founder of the legal advocacy group Condemned USA, said the prosecution efforts are squarely aimed at harming President Trump.
"These people are sick and only focus on this to serve the goals of tearing down President Trump and striking fear into the hearts of supporters to silence our voices," Mr. Evans told The Epoch Times in a statement. "I will not be intimidated by a bunch of thugs in suits and robes and their chains will be heavy when justice is served.
"The Department of Justice, under the leadership of Attorney General Merrick Garland and [U.S. Attorney] Matthew Graves, has been exposed for its obvious partisan weaponization against conservatives," Mr. Evans said. "The bludgeoning of the January 6th community is providing endless proof that legal actions under the tenure of these anti-American hacks is obviously aligned with political narratives."
'Profoundly Disturbing'
Defense attorney Brad Geyer said the case statistics are "profoundly disturbing."
"It seems the government is foolishly doubling down on its diversion of Department of Justice resources away from historical enforcement areas like border security, human trafficking, corruption, and fraud in procurement, grants, health care, big pharma, research and science," Mr. Geyer told The Epoch Times in a statement.
"A decade ago, zealous enforcement in these areas was considered to be highly correlated to continued American prosperity," he said, "while today, the Department of Justice ramps up interstate roundups of parading grandmas that attended a First-Amendment-protected demonstration that went awry."
Former FBI special agent Steve Friend said the arrest projections are in line with longstanding FBI plans.
"These numbers are consistent with what my supervisors told me when I made protected whistleblower disclosures about the FBI's departures from investigative procedures for January 6th cases," Mr. Friend told The Epoch Times. "In August 2022, FBI Jacksonville management told me that the bureau intended to arrest at least 1,000 more individuals who never entered the Capitol."
Mr. Friend reiterated concerns he lodged with Congress that led to his suspension in 2022.
"The operation is a massive deception to boost the FBI's domestic terrorism case and arrest statistics," he said. "There are senior executive service employees within the FBI who have pocketed annual bonuses in the area of $50,000 every fiscal year because the FBI has manipulated these figures."
Trouble on the Horizon
When the Supreme Court on Dec. 13, 2023, said it would take up Jan. 6 defendant Joseph W. Fischer's challenge to the use of 18 U.S. Code §1512(c)(2) to prosecute Jan. 6 defendants for obstructing Congress' tallying of Electoral College votes, it was an earth-shaking development.
Many legal observers believe the high court will strike down the DOJ's novel use of a post-Enron corporate fraud statute to lodge felony charges against 350 defendants and counting. Oral arguments are set for April 16 with a decision likely by late June.
That development has already led to delayed sentencings and the release of some Jan. 6 convicts from prison.
On Jan. 10, U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta ordered the release of Thomas B. Adams Jr., who was serving a 14-month sentence for obstructing an official proceeding, and entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds. Judge Mehta said that without the obstruction felony conviction, Mr. Adams' sentence would have been in the range of two to eight months.
Judge John Bates issued a similar ruling on Jan. 11, ordering Alexander Sheppard be released from prison on May 2, after he has served six months behind bars. Mr. Sheppard was sentenced in September 2023 to 19 months in prison on four misdemeanor counts and a single felony charge: obstruction of an official proceeding.
Guy Wesley Reffitt, the first Jan. 6 defendant to go on trial, in March 2022, filed a motion last week, on March 2, seeking release from federal prison based on a recent unanimous ruling from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia.
A three-judge panel of the Court of Appeals ruled that sentencing enhancements for interfering with the "administration of justice" could not be applied to the tallying of Electoral College votes by a joint session of Congress.
In his motion, Mr. Reffitt argued that without the administration of justice enhancement, his sentencing guidelines would have called for 30 to 37 months in prison—substantially lower than the 87-month sentence he received. He has been in custody for nearly 38 months. District Judge Dabney Friedrich ordered the DOJ to respond to Mr. Reffitt's motion by March 7.
Under U.S. Sentencing Commission guideline Sec. 2J1.2, judges can enhance jail time for interfering with the administration of justice or substantial interference with the administration of justice.
The Court of Appeals ruled on March 1 that the sentencing enhancement for Larry Rendell Brock for interference with the administration of justice should not have been applied as it related to Congress' counting of Electoral College votes. Mr. Brock is serving a prison term for his conviction on six Jan. 6 counts, including corrupt obstruction of an official proceeding.
The Court of Appeals upheld Mr. Brock's conviction, but remanded the case back to the U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., for resentencing on the obstruction charge.
The appeals court ruling could affect 100 Jan. 6 defendants who had the enhancement applied to their sentences. According to Mr. Shipley, it could cut the sentences for many defendants by half or more.
The long term future is one where lawfare is used against the democrats. Because the old guard of current types who tried being resonable will be replaced by a new generation who spent their entire lives being fucked over by the left rememeber what happeened to their friends and family members and want revenge.
DarthOne
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I don’t think it’s going to stop at lawfare.