Historical maps thread
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1861 ethnic map of the Ottoman Balkans:
1981 ethnic maps of Yugoslavia and its various ethnic groups:
What do you think, @Husky_Khan?
1981 ethnic maps of Yugoslavia and its various ethnic groups:
What do you think, @Husky_Khan?
@sillygoose @stevep @Zyobot @Skallagrim @Circle of Willis @History Learner @Husky_Khan You guys might be interested in this link:
Maps of the German, Polish, and Ruthenian (Ukrainian) languages in Central and Eastern Europe before the start of World War I:
The Polish map above appears to be biased since it does not consider Kashubians to be Poles. See this map of the 1900 Imperial German census results by ethnicity/language:
The Polish map above appears to be biased since it does not consider Kashubians to be Poles. See this map of the 1900 Imperial German census results by ethnicity/language:
@sillygoose You might be interested in this:
After the end of WWI, Hugo Preuss proposed to reorganize Germany into 14 states:
Hugo Preuß - Wikipedia
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However, his proposal was never actually adopted by the new Weimar German government--though after the end of World War II, West Germany did adopt a similar idea.
@sillygoose What odds would you have placed on Prussia ever being broken up in the absence of the Nazis ever coming to power in Germany?
Interesting map of the Vietnam War:
sillygoose
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Short of a WW2 style fight to the end campaign in 1919 pretty close to zero. Bureaucratic inertia is powerful.
FWIW, I meant at any point in time up to the present-day. So, from 1918 to 2022. But if what you're saying applies to the entirety of this 104-year time period, then this would suck for Germany considering that this would mean that this would result in a rather lopsided German federation due to Prussia's sheer size and population, comparable to what would have happened had the Soviet Union survived and successfully reformed itself. In such a scenario, like Prussia in Germany, the Russian SFSR would have been extremely dominant in this reformed Soviet Union.
As you can tell based on this ethnic map of Romania in 1930, the most literate peoples in Romania in 1930 were Germans and Magyars (Hungarians):
You mean compare the 1930 ethnic map of Romania with the one for 1941, with different borders:
The lack of Jews in the eastern territories in 1941 is due to them either being deported en masse to Transnistria or already being murdered en masse.
bintananth
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What you're saying makes me think that you dislike Jews.You mean compare the 1930 ethnic map of Romania with the one for 1941, with different borders:
The lack of Jews in the eastern territories in 1941 is due to them either being deported en masse to Transnistria or already being murdered en masse.
Some of the things you've said about "non-white ancestry" makes me think that you think that everyone who isn't "lilly white" is dumber than a box of rocks.
That is not true.
I myself am Jewish (well, a quarter-Jewish but that's the quarter that I identify with the strongest), so accusing me of being an anti-Semite is just flat-out wrong.
And what exactly did I say about non-white ancestry? I never said that there were no smart non-white people, nor did I dispute that in the US, Asians are, on average, smarter than whites are:
Race gaps in SAT scores highlight inequality and hinder upward mobility | Brookings
Taking the SAT is an American rite of passage. Along with the increasingly popular ACT, the SAT is critical in identifying student readiness for college and as an important gateway to higher education. Yet despite efforts to equalize academic opportunity, large racial gaps in SAT scores persist...
www.brookings.edu
Even East Asians in their home countries perform comparable to US whites on the PISA exam:
And some white countries perform comparable to US Hispanics (Ukraine, et cetera) and even US blacks (some Balkan countries, Moldova, Romania, et cetera). So, white countries have a wide variety in their academic performance.
And some white countries perform comparable to US Hispanics (Ukraine, et cetera) and even US blacks (some Balkan countries, Moldova, Romania, et cetera). So, white countries have a wide variety in their academic performance.
I myself am Jewish (well, a quarter-Jewish but that's the quarter that I identify with the strongest), so accusing me of being an anti-Semite is just flat-out wrong.
And what exactly did I say about non-white ancestry? I never said that there were no smart non-white people, nor did I dispute that in the US, Asians are, on average, smarter than whites are:
Race gaps in SAT scores highlight inequality and hinder upward mobility | Brookings
Taking the SAT is an American rite of passage. Along with the increasingly popular ACT, the SAT is critical in identifying student readiness for college and as an important gateway to higher education. Yet despite efforts to equalize academic opportunity, large racial gaps in SAT scores persist...
I simply mentioned Jews in the context of the 1941 map because it's clear that some parts of Romania, such as Moldova, have much less Jews on the map for 1941 than they had on the map for 1930. I was trying to provide an explanation for this.
Anyway:
Counties in the US where minorities are highly represented:
Six maps that reveal America’s expanding racial diversity | Brookings
Demographer William Frey unpacks the trends of the America's "diversity explosion" across the country's 100 largest metropolitan areas.
www.brookings.edu
White: None
Light blue: Native Americans and Alaskan Natives
Dark green: Hispanics
Light green: Two or more minorities
Brown: Blacks
Grey: No data
Blue: Asians, Native Hawaiians, and other Pacific Islanders
The origins of significant figures in Art, Literature, Music and Science during three consecutive periods in Europe (1400-1600, 1600-1800 and 1800-1950):
From Charles Murray's book Human Accomplishment.
Here's the same data for the United States from the very same book:
The Southern US isn't very heavy on human accomplishment, unfortunately.
Well, at least not the truly transformational kinds of human accomplishments that involve art, music, literature, science, philosophy, et cetera.
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@sillygoose You might be interested in this map:
It shows World War II deaths by country and by category (soldiers, civilians, Jews, and Diaspora Germans). It's in German, but I'm presuming that you can still read it.
This map shows just how harsh and brutal World War II was for the Soviet Union.
It shows World War II deaths by country and by category (soldiers, civilians, Jews, and Diaspora Germans). It's in German, but I'm presuming that you can still read it.
This map shows just how harsh and brutal World War II was for the Soviet Union.
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sillygoose
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I'd like to know where they got their data from, because it seems they undercounted German losses by quite a bit and the Russians would dispute what the Germans claimed about Soviet casualties.@sillygoose You might be interested in this map:
It shows World War II deaths by country and by category (soldiers, civilians, Jews, and Diaspora Germans). It's in German, but I'm presuming that you can still read it.
This map shows just how harsh and brutal World War II was for the Soviet Union.
Yeah, I'd like to find that out as well. If I can actually find the original source of this map, I would let you know. German military casualties in World War II should be in the 5-6 million range, no? As for the Soviet casualties, didn't Soviet experts themselves in the post-Cold War period say something along the lines of 9-11 million Soviet military casualties and 16-18 million Soviet civilian casualties?