Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

[Marduk]

Of course, but only due to pro-Israel politicians being in office. Otherwise we'd close our borders in an instant.

Are you residing in some kind of alternate reality? Check out which politicians cried about the borders not being completely opened the loudest, and then see what their stances on Israel are.

I never claimed to be a pacifist. I just think its stupid to want to wage war against everyone that dares dissent from you. It needlessly multiplies your enemies, stretches your resources, creates chaos and destruction and increases the chances you'll be defeated. Diplomacy, negotiation and recognition of spheres of influence is how a mature power conducts its affairs, and how the USA conducted its affairs before sociopaths and lunatics took over its foreign policy.

When it comes to jihadists, there is no need to multiply enemies, they were always there, and it takes only delusions or self-imposed blindness to not see them like the leftists do it.
So really bad opportunity to bring up such doveish ideas.
And when they were brought with some success, you got the grand rise of CCP, so first deal with that before re-heating these ideas.
I'll gladly take these "sociopaths and lunatics" over the likes of you and other people with such stances.

Now you want to war with Russia, China and Iran and maybe even North Korea all at the same time.

How do you know what i want?
Si vis pacem, para bellum. Make them yield in lieu of war, instead of being the doormat like you propose. But if they want war instead...

what was it londo mollari said? "Only an idiot fights a war on two fronts. Only the heir to the throne of the kingdom of idiots would fight a war on twelve fronts."

It's hardly one and a half front. The others are countries with an economy the size of Italy or less.

Conservatives, real ones, not neo-liberals and globalists are mainly concerned with securing thier own borders.

Real conservatives are concerned with securing national interests, including their own borders. Anything less is the isolationist delusion that if you stop being interested in world politics, world politics will stop being interested in you.

They run the show. Thats why you have been completely unable to win anything in the culture wars.

LMAO. If they ran the show, total free speech would be a global thing, as they are all over that issue. It's the leftist idea that it isn't.

Believe it not, in most of the world, right wing parties have more in their party platforms beyond "muh low taxes and blowing the shit out of anyone we dont like". And so did the republicans long ago.

Well, yeah, they forget about patriotism/nationalism and cultural conservatism. But nothing wrong with the former elements. High taxes and pacifism are only on the banner of the people with all the proverbial and literal red flags.

 

[ShieldWife]

There is nothing less conservative or patriotic than unnecessary wars. The wars that the neocons and neoliberals ruling most of the Western world have been foisting in us for decades much to the ruin of our own nations and others.

 

[AmosTrask]

You do realize what you're describing involves a lot of dead or brutalized children, yes?
Not judging, I just want us to be on the same page.

You expect me to have pity for a people that started the war in 1947 with a massacre of Jews, Christians and other minorities. That has spent 70 years with massacres and suicide bombings. The only way you eliminate Jihadi is to ensure there is nowhere for them to hide. Marawi was only 6 years ago amigo. I have no sympathy to spare for people who revel in acts that are Haram even under Islam. Haram even during Jihad.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

You expect me to have pity for a people that started the war in 1947 with a massacre of Jews, Christians and other minorities. That has spent 70 years with massacres and suicide bombings. The only way you eliminate Jihadi is to ensure there is nowhere for them to hide. Marawi was only 6 years ago amigo. I have no sympathy to spare for people who revel in acts that are Haram even under Islam. Haram even during Jihad.

A yes would have sufficed. I never asked you to pity anyone.

 

[King Arts]

You expect me to have pity for a people that started the war in 1947 with a massacre of Jews, Christians and other minorities. That has spent 70 years with massacres and suicide bombings. The only way you eliminate Jihadi is to ensure there is nowhere for them to hide. Marawi was only 6 years ago amigo. I have no sympathy to spare for people who revel in acts that are Haram even under Islam. Haram even during Jihad.

No we expect you to stop your hypocritical grandstanding about "Muh killing kids" when you don't care. You only care about one sides kids dying.

 

[AmosTrask]

A yes would have sufficed. I never asked you to pity anyone.

Vae Victis! Palestine delenda est! These are the Latin phrases most applicable to the situation.

Five days of footage of Cowards executing civilians and proudly broadcasting it to the world!

I post the proof again. These people are demonspawn.

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[AnimalNoodles]

How do you know what i want?
Si vis pacem, para bellum. Make them yield in lieu of war, instead of being the doormat like you propose. But if they want war instead...

You are just living in a delusion of the past instead of realising the the USA has limits. You are starting to resemble Spain in the mid 1600's..surrounded with enemies, at war with everyone, in massive debt and faced with rising enemies that outweigh you. Your Rocroi moment is coming.

It's hardly one and a half front. The others are countries with an economy the size of Italy or less.

Ah yes, ignoring actual production in favor of the bullshit GDP metric. You are having trouble supplying *Ukraine*, let alone the troubles you would have in an actual multifront war directly against Russia, China and Iran.

 

[Marduk]

You are just living in a delusion of the past instead of realising the the USA has limits. You are starting to resemble Spain in the mid 1600's..surrounded with enemies, at war with everyone, in massive debt and faced with rising enemies that outweigh you. Your Rocroi moment is coming.

Those limits are completely not in the places you imagine them to be, and half of them purely self-inflicted.
You are half a step away from embracing Obama's self-fulfilling "managed decline" doctrine.

Ah yes, ignoring actual production in favor of the bullshit GDP metric.

Da, comrade. Unit is unit. F-35 or F-16ski, same thing basically. Quality is for bourgeoisie scum to bother about.

You are having trouble supplying *Ukraine*, let alone the troubles you would have in an actual multifront war directly against Russia, China and Iran.

LMAO. The trouble is political, not without the input of the likes of you scaremongering about muh escalation, not industrial. NATO is not even using one hand in supporting Ukraine, maybe 2 fingers. Out of these China is the only truly challenging rival, but unlikely to be faced in a land war where it could bring it the mass of its army to bear.

 

[mrttao]

Of course, but only due to pro-Israel politicians being in office. Otherwise we'd close our borders in an instant.

Not because they are pro israel. but because they are pro white replacement politicians. And also pro rapefugees in general.

Although a lot of those polyticks are jewish, which is depressing.
at this point the western jewish oligarchs are just asking for it. its very depressing.

 

[mrttao]

When there is a rule in the schoolyard, 'No fighting,' and a student starts attacking another student with a knife, that other student is not required to not fight back, because it would 'break the rules.'

When the teacher comes out to stop them, the teacher is not allowed to beat the knife-wielder down, because it would 'break the rules' to fight the knife-wielder.

... did you literally never attend a school in a western nation?
I absolutely got suspended from school for fighting back against a crazy who pulled out a knife on me. And I know other people who got in trouble for not just bending over and taking it, in multiple different western nations.

As for a teacher stepping in... oh boy.
There is a reason for the bystander effect

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Not because they are pro israel. but because they are pro white replacement politicians. And also pro rapefugees in general.

Although a lot of those polyticks are jewish, which is depressing.
at this point the western jewish oligarchs are just asking for it. its very depressing.

Being pro-israel (at least politicians-wise) is the same thing as being pro-White-replacement. They're functionally synonyms.
Granted that's only because Israeli politicians are also insane like Western ones. The average joe in Israel doesn't really have the same ridiculous drive.

 

[mrttao]

Being pro-israel (at least politicians-wise) is the same thing as being pro-White-replacement. They're functionally synonyms.
Granted that's only because Israeli politicians are also insane like Western ones. The average joe in Israel doesn't really have the same ridiculous drive.

Party lines do exist, but are not always universal.
And there are various other positions they hold.

Like how every single pro-white-replacement politician is also pro abortion.
That does not mean that "they are only letting the rapefugees in because they are pro abortion".
If anything their mass moloch sacrifices in their ziggurat temples slow down white replacement as it hits non whites harder

And those parties have shifted too.
As thanks to all the idiot jewish oligarchs mass importing muslim rapefugees you now have growing muslim parties who are pro white replacement and anti israel.

Like Ilhan Omar for example. Who posted she supports hamas in this war, and is an advocate for white replacement in america.

Honestly I keep on telling my relatives in israel that they should stop worrying about iran and start worrying about the idiot diaspora jews ruling UK and France mass importing muslims to those countries out of sheer genocidal hate towards christians.
Because, in addition to being evil, it also impacts you.
Because in a few decades those countries will become muslim countries and will then start selling their nukes to hamas.

 

[LordsFire]

... did you literally never attend a school in a western nation?
I absolutely got suspended from school for fighting back against a crazy who pulled out a knife on me. And I know other people who got in trouble for not just bending over and taking it, in multiple different western nations.

As for a teacher stepping in... oh boy.
There is a reason for the bystander effect

I was speaking of 'what is right,' not of 'what leftist have foisted on far too much of the western world.'

...It is sad to hear it's not just a couple isolated cases that I'd heard of.

 

[SoliFortissimi]

....now I see why the right wing keeps getting folded by a bunch of crazy leftist elites.

 

[mrttao]

I was speaking of 'what is right,' not of 'what leftist have foisted on far too much of the western world.'

...It is sad to hear it's not just a couple isolated cases that I'd heard of.

My apologies. I misunderstood you.
I fully agree with you that this not right and it is an abomination that they do it this way.

 

[Bacle]

Hamas intentionally targeted elementary schools during the attack.

 

[Terthna]

Not because they are pro israel. but because they are pro white replacement politicians. And also pro rapefugees in general.

Although a lot of those polyticks are jewish, which is depressing.
at this point the western jewish oligarchs are just asking for it. its very depressing.

Not all of them though; not even a majority. Most claim to be Christian; though as with everything else that comes out of their mouths, that is a lie. There are no Jews or Christians amongst the ruling class; just narcissistic sociopaths suffering from the worse case of the Dunning–Kruger effect in human history.

 

[Cherico]

That’s how the original laws of war were before they got woke.

And the world will go back to that because when people try new things and they fail horrifically they go back to what works.

 

[TheRejectionist]

Douglas Macgregor opinion on the current situàtion :

 

[Cherico]

actually, you are, esp if you want to claim to represent "a rules based global order"

That's really not how it works not long term.

If you consistently break the rules of law those rules stop applying to you. Rules based global order? Thats a polite fiction thats been given entirely too much credence the real world of things is more brutal and always has been thus.