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Halo Halo TV Series Thread: This isn't the Red Flag we were hoping for.
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The more I learn about Bungie's time with the franchise, the more ridiculously improbable Halo's eventually success ends up looking. Not that 343i is much better, but 343i's issues have generally been more because they wanted to break new ground, vs bungie's various bits of sabotage and staggering ineptitude.
Edit: Gears of War, the most lowbrow dudebro shooter ever made, thought through its backstory enough to have answers to questions like "why is there a military, who were thry fighting before the locusts", and while it's possible that Microsoft also browbeat them into doing that, I don't think that's likely. It's inexcusable to have story writing that's less thought out than a series where the word "chainsaw bayonet" appears.
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There's plenty of ineptitude to go around on 343i's part. And both studios seem to be pretty dysfunctional, with similar issues of leadership. I think what Bungie had going for it was raw fucking talent on the part of the guys who were running the show, and they all started as a small team in Jason Jones's garage before they got big. Even if they partied and fought like rock stars, there was still a common vision and a camaraderie.
Look at most of the great rock bands of the 70s and 80s. You see the exact same thing. A three-ring-circus behind the curtains leads to an epic album and tour.
SchrodingersWehraboo
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Early Halo in it’s many forms was weird. The ancient RTS prototype, for one thing. Then there was that E3 2000 Demo with the alternate Master Chief voice. And those Bungie ARGs with emails from Cortana and the like seem forgotten by the devs themselves. In other words, what became Halo CE had several paths which it could’ve gone down to unkown degrees of success.
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Tyrus Rechs
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TFW your series is so bad that someones rises out of the grave to talk shit about it.
Fun fact: Before CBS yeeted it off Youtube, E;R's video apparently garnered more views in a few hours than the first episode had after a few days being free to view.
Edit: It's true!
Outstanding job Paramount!
Fun fact: Before CBS yeeted it off Youtube, E;R's video apparently garnered more views in a few hours than the first episode had after a few days being free to view.
Edit: It's true!
Outstanding job Paramount!
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It's even worse than I thought. 
Maybe when the wokeness causes the series to completely crash and burn, it'd be the turning point for this shit in media?
Maybe when the wokeness causes the series to completely crash and burn, it'd be the turning point for this shit in media?
It's even worse than I thought.
The fact it's woke isn't really the problem, if the series was about a black muslim lesbian marine and her wives fighting a losing battle against the Covenant, just trying to survive the next day I'd totally watch it. The problem is that the show isn't even remotely faithful to the source material or to basic logic.
The inciting incident for MC's rebellion against the UNSC was thrm ordering him to kill a teenage girl, because the teenage girl was threatening to smear them on space twitter, despite the fact that:
A: said teenager is in UNSC custody and any access to the media was at the UNSC's discretion.
B. She was a nobody with no platform or pull and anything she said would be once voice out of billions, and as an innie, should be particularly distrusted
C: Her story was devoid of evidence and ran contrary to the official narrative, a narrative heavily bolstered by evidence.
Like, imagine if the navy SEALs existed in WW2, and they pulled off some daring raid into Nazi occupied France where they wiped out an SS unit that was in the middle of wiping out a communist-backed resistance movement, and the SEALs evac a teenage French girl that was in the resistance. They ask her to tell her story, and about how the SEALs are awesome and the nazis are bad. She instead threats to say they're both bad and that the commies are the only path forward.
The Halo writers expect us to think that's such a serious, credible threat that the Navy would order the girl killed.
Hey, The Flood was great! Not on par with the Nylund trilogy, granted, and Dietz didn't quite capture MC the way other writers did, but the rest of the book was very solid.
Was it in First Strike or The Flood that had Master Chief basically cracking a smile/make a wise-ass remark to Cortana about throwing a grenade down a reactor core, to blow up the PoA?
That was such an OOC moment for me that it actually made me blink and go "what the fuck?" when I first read it, like over ten years ago, lol.
That was in the very first game.
For some screwy reason, that cutscene references the same grenade model that is used for pickups, not for thrown grenades. That's why the frag grenade is the size of a pineapple.
Mediocre in comparison to Nylund and Greg bear, not the other refuse masquerading as post Bungie Halo media or other media🙂
Honestly Nylund did such a good and logical job of expanding the universe i'm mystified why neither Bungie or 343 ever brought him back for more novels or creative advice in an official capacity.
...I really need to replay or at least watch the original game, heh.
The deal with him fell through after Eric Trautmann ragequit the Franchise Development Team.
He's indicated his interest in returning, and 343i has indicated that they'd like to hire him when they have an opening, but it's never happened.
SchrodingersWehraboo
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Recently, I walked in on someone watching episode 2 of the Halo show when a guy was shooting people in the head with a handgun, and I swear, my first reaction watching the screen was "Is this some kind of Dune Spin off I haven't heard of yet?" That's how aesthetically off-base this show is.
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DarthOne
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And why did that happen? The ragequitting I mean.
That’s a shame, we probably would have gotten a better Halo 4 and onwards.
You now how if you shoot a Hunter, its twin loses its shit and comes after you?
Apparently, the two Erics were really tight. They were good friends, and they worked better with each other than Bungie. Way, way better.
I'm still not certain why Nylund didn't get brought back by 343i. I think there's a story missing there, but it's part of the big question mark that is stuff happening behind closed doors at 343i from 2009-2022.
If they end the series by framing this all as a in-universe claim made by Colonel Ackerson......well, it won't redeem the project, not by a longshot. But it's the only way they could possibly establish any sort of connection to the main canon.