Gun Political Issues Megathread. (Control for or Against?)

[Battlegrinder]

*laughs in 1776*

Firearms do, in fact, impact the power of the people to influence the government. Because an armed population cannot be governed without its consent. This sets some basic outer bounds on any sensible government. Of course, then you get politicians who aren't sensible running things and they eventually run into why it is that armed populations need consent to be governed.

Or get replaced by politicians closer to sensible before this breaking point is reached. Either or. Very preferably the latter, as civil wars tend to gut a country for a while.

Ballot box, soap box, jury box, ammo box, in that order.

Virtual all political decisions with be decided by the first two, and the rest will be dealt with by courts. I cannot recall a time in my life where public access to firearms posed any meaningful impediment to government policy. They're only useful in extreme circumstances, circumstances that politicians do not factor into thier decisions.

Chuck Schumer is clearly not worried about his court packing scheme getting literally shot down, along with him, for example.

 

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[LindyAF]

Ballot box, soap box, jury box, ammo box, in that order.

Virtual all political decisions with be decided by the first two, and the rest will be dealt with by courts. I cannot recall a time in my life where public access to firearms posed any meaningful impediment to government policy. They're only useful in extreme circumstances, circumstances that politicians do not factor into thier decisions.

Chuck Schumer is clearly not worried about his court packing scheme getting literally shot down, along with him, for example.

Bundy Ranch, like a couple years ago.

Also like every March for Our Rights, arguably.

Firearms can be used as a political tool without actually being fired - their presence among any group and the potential of their use raises the force required to disperse them, in many cases beyond the point which the government is capable of utilizing effectively.

 

[Bacle]

Appearently there are new sanctions that went into effect, and have removed most Russian ammo/gun imports to the US.

Seeing people bitch about it all over Twitter.

 

[Captain X]

Cool, maybe I'll finally be able to afford an SKS.

 

[Bacle]

Cool, maybe I'll finally be able to afford an SKS.

Maybe, but good luck finding ammo for it anymore; they've effectively banned the import of any ammo from Russia.

 

[Captain X]

I guess I misunderstood - thought you were saying they're allowed again.

 

[Bacle]

I guess I misunderstood - thought you were saying they're allowed again.

Nope, unfortunately; it seems like the sanctions are a swipe at Navalny, but effectively banned import of most Russian ammo and guns, indefinitely.

 

[prinCZess]

Appearently there are new sanctions that went into effect, and have removed most Russian ammo/gun imports to the US.

Seeing people bitch about it all over Twitter.

Yeah, starting September 7th they're going to start barring imports of Russian-made guns and firearms. The guns are something of an old hat and have been regulated to a degree where it's been hard to get your hands on stuff for a while as far as I'm aware, so the big news is the bar on ammo since steel-case Russian stuff, including in 5.56, has been the low-cost option 'port in the storm' in the ongoing ammo panic.

Which...feeds the conspiratorial appearance of things quite a bit.
I'd be curious if the policy applies to primers and other component-parts...I'd assume it does, but if not some American companies might be able to grab that up...
Either way, ComBlock cartridge makers in former Comblock countries might benefit as well as domestic ammo-makers to some slight degree...But it's going to incite more panic-buying and more surges in ammo prices. *sigh*

 

[bullethead]

Here's a great tweet summing up why the gun control lobby is super salty all the time:

Spoiler: For non-twitter users/posterity

twitter.com/deadhardware/status/1430424243209187333
twitter.com/deadhardware/status/1430426233570045952
twitter.com/deadhardware/status/1430427852340670468

Hollywood has never portrayed gun ownership in a positive light.

They've always smeared us, and for a good long time, they've succeeded. Gun control supporters owned the cultural landscape.

What changed this status quo was the proliferation of video games.

Video games are a unique medium. They are not passive experiences, they require player agency.

Gun control is the refutation of agency. The gun is agency given form.

Gaming is structurally biased against gun control. You cannot refute player agency and expect profit.

Note: This has nothing to do with the politics of developers because the profit motive has superseded their politics.

A game without agency is a walking simulator. Nobody likes walking simulators. They love contests of wills.

 

[DarthOne]

CDC to Spend Millions of Taxpayer Dollars on Gun ‘Health Threat

CDC to Spend Millions of Taxpayer Dollars on Gun 'Health Threat'

President Biden's CDC is gearing up to spend millions of taxpayer dollars fighting the "serious public health threat" posed by gun violence.

www.breitbart.com

President Biden’s Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is gearing up to spend millions of taxpayer dollars fighting the “serious public health threat” posed by gun violence.

CDC director Dr. Rochelle Walensky referenced gun crime in various cities and said, “Something has to be done about this. Now is the time — it’s pedal to the metal time,” CNN reported.

“The scope of the problem is just bigger than we’re even hearing about, and when your heart wrenches every day you turn on the news, you’re only hearing the tip of the iceberg. We haven’t spent the time, energy and frankly the resources to understand this problem because it’s been so divided,” she added.

New Day

@NewDay

Aug 27

"I'm not here about gun control. I'm here about preventing gun violence and gun death,"
@CDCDirector
Dr. Rachelle Walensky says about her plan to reduce gun violence in the United States. https://cnn.it/3mCJzLT

“I swore to the President and to this country that I would protect your health. This is clearly one of those moments, one of those issues that is harming America’s health,” Walensky said.

The CDC is spending $2,224,482 to track the number of patients entering hospitals with non-life-threatening gunshot wounds.
The agency is also spending $8,085,935 on research projects “to prevent gun violence and injuries,” CNN said.

Walensky said her push is not “about gun control,” even as she oversees an agency spending millions on tracking gun-related incidents and gun violence, Insider noted.

AWR Hawkins is an award-winning Second Amendment columnist for Breitbart News and the writer/curator of Down Range with AWR Hawkins, a weekly newsletter focused on all things Second Amendment, also for Breitbart News. He is the political analyst for Armed American Radio. Follow him on Instagram: @awr_hawkins. Reach him at awrhawkins@breitbart.com. You can sign up to get Down Range at breitbart.com/downrange.

Notice the usual leftist tactics: declare the firearm the cause of the problem, not the criminals using them.

 

[stephen the barbarian]

translation: we f-ed up on covid and need a distraction

 

[Husky_Khan]

Sad news. Looks like David Chipman won't be the new ATF Director... Biden withdrew his nomination.

Report: Joe Biden to Withdraw David Chipman Nomination

President Biden will reportedly withdraw the nomination of David Chipman, the gun controller the administration put forward to lead the ATF.

www.breitbart.com

As a consolation maybe they'll name a military base after him.

 

[S'task]

translation: we f-ed up on covid and need a distraction

No, this has nothing to do with Covid.

Gun control advocates have been trying FOR YEARS to weaponize the CDC against firearms and firearm ownership, going back to the 1990s, to the point where there was a law passed in 1996 that stated "none of the funds made available for injury prevention and control at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) may be used to advocate or promote gun control."

This was generally maintained until just last year in the big omnibus spending bill, though it appears the Dickey Amendment remains in effect, they have added language stating that the CDC can spend money on researching the "causes and origins of gun violence", which once the bureaucratic twisting is complete will end up with the cause somehow only being "private gun ownership" so while it won't actively ADVOCATE for gun control they will basically paint a big giant sign pointing to it.

 

[Bear Ribs]

Somewhat interesting. Women are buying guns and taking courses on how to use them at a rate never seen before. About half of new gun owners are women, and a lot more than expected are minorities. I'll note that most of us predicted this some time ago, defunding the police and rioting everywhere would inevitably lead to people, especially women who tend to be more vulnerable to violence, seeking to protect themselves. Now, however, we're actively seeing it happen and sure enough, women are doubling down on becoming gun owners because of it.

Black women seeing guns as protection from rising crime

Experts in the firearms industry, as well as gun-rights advocates, say more and more Black women are considering gun ownership for personal protection.

www.ajc.com

Women Are Nearly Half of New Gun Buyers, Study Finds

As gun sales reached a high during the Covid-19 pandemic, groups formed to teach women how to handle their new firearms.

www.wsj.com

 

[LordsFire]

Somewhat interesting. Women are buying guns and taking courses on how to use them at a rate never seen before. About half of new gun owners are women, and a lot more than expected are minorities. I'll note that most of us predicted this some time ago, defunding the police and rioting everywhere would inevitably lead to people, especially women who tend to be more vulnerable to violence, seeking to protect themselves. Now, however, we're actively seeing it happen and sure enough, women are doubling down on becoming gun owners because of it.

Black women seeing guns as protection from rising crime

Experts in the firearms industry, as well as gun-rights advocates, say more and more Black women are considering gun ownership for personal protection.

www.ajc.com

Women Are Nearly Half of New Gun Buyers, Study Finds

As gun sales reached a high during the Covid-19 pandemic, groups formed to teach women how to handle their new firearms.

www.wsj.com

Good for them. Every responsible armed citizen is another potential crime prevented.

 

[Cherico]

Somewhat interesting. Women are buying guns and taking courses on how to use them at a rate never seen before. About half of new gun owners are women, and a lot more than expected are minorities. I'll note that most of us predicted this some time ago, defunding the police and rioting everywhere would inevitably lead to people, especially women who tend to be more vulnerable to violence, seeking to protect themselves. Now, however, we're actively seeing it happen and sure enough, women are doubling down on becoming gun owners because of it.

Black women seeing guns as protection from rising crime

Experts in the firearms industry, as well as gun-rights advocates, say more and more Black women are considering gun ownership for personal protection.

www.ajc.com

Women Are Nearly Half of New Gun Buyers, Study Finds

As gun sales reached a high during the Covid-19 pandemic, groups formed to teach women how to handle their new firearms.

www.wsj.com

Good

 

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