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To be fair I've lived in the ghetto and I think that's safer then living in between Germany and Russia.
It's... complicated...
Luckily Poland is getting civie nuke power, to make it an energy market player and provide a measure of security against German or Russian whims.

It could also make it easier for Poland to pull an Israel in terms of a native nuke deterrent.

Soon Germany may be answering to Warsaw, instead of Moscow.
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
At one time i agreed with this whole heartedly. However times change, this isn't 2016 anymore. The right has been banned,blocked and censored to pieces so much that many people don't even hear different viewpoints from the official narrative. In this kind of environment striking first and blaming the enemy has advantages.

1. There are plenty of true things that the right can strike the left over. There's no need to make shit up.
2. If you think now is bad for Conservative voices getting out, you have no idea how bad things were before Drudge, Fox, and especially Rush Limbaugh. In the time before the Internet and Talk Radio, there were no Conservative voices getting out to the media at large.
 

CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
1. There are plenty of true things that the right can strike the left over. There's no need to make shit up.
2. If you think now is bad for Conservative voices getting out, you have no idea how bad things were before Drudge, Fox, and especially Rush Limbaugh. In the time before the Internet and Talk Radio, there were no Conservative voices getting out to the media at large.

Never heard of this “Drudge”

Also, while I may never have heard anything from Rush Limbaugh, few times I heard his name mentioned I got a sense of making him out to be evil and crazy

FOX? Honestly, I may not watch much of it, my family is in love with CNN and I mostly saw the latter growing up, but gotta say the voice tones they choose to use actually feels more ordinary and casual compared to the voice tones CNN uses
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
Never heard of this “Drudge”

Also, while I may never have heard anything from Rush Limbaugh, few times I heard his name mentioned I got a sense of making him out to be evil and crazy

FOX? Honestly, I may not watch much of it, my family is in love with CNN and I mostly saw the latter growing up, but gotta say the voice tones they choose to use actually feels more ordinary and casual compared to the voice tones CNN uses

Rush Limbaugh is probably the single media figure that the left hates the most. He's the most successful radio personality, ever. He has an audience in the tens of millions, and starting in ~1989, he created the first major break in the leftist media monopoly.

The left endlessly villifies him, because they will never, ever forgive him for that.

Drudge isn't that big a deal at this point, but he was critical for the uprising of internet-based media; he's the one who broke the story of the Monica Lewinskey scandal in the 90's, after conventional television media deliberately did not report on it for months.

I don't watch Fox myself, but I'm not unaware of how important it has been for breaking cultural hegemony in television media.
 

CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
Rush Limbaugh is probably the single media figure that the left hates the most. He's the most successful radio personality, ever. He has an audience in the tens of millions, and starting in ~1989, he created the first major break in the leftist media monopoly.

The left endlessly villifies him, because they will never, ever forgive him for that.

Drudge isn't that big a deal at this point, but he was critical for the uprising of internet-based media; he's the one who broke the story of the Monica Lewinskey scandal in the 90's, after conventional television media deliberately did not report on it for months.

I don't watch Fox myself, but I'm not unaware of how important it has been for breaking cultural hegemony in television media.

It’s funny how those who villify them seem to act as if they aren’t the majority voice

It’s like The Boys trying to depict superheroes, who were essentially an analogy for Hollywood complete with horrible disgusting scandals and celebrity culture, as being “Right Wing”
 

Sir 1000

Shitlord
1. There are plenty of true things that the right can strike the left over. There's no need to make shit up.
2. If you think now is bad for Conservative voices getting out, you have no idea how bad things were before Drudge, Fox, and especially Rush Limbaugh. In the time before the Internet and Talk Radio, there were no Conservative voices getting out to the media at large.
My opposition has more to do with tactics than morals tbh. You mention truth but what does truth matter if it's not reported? Does a tree make a sound if it falls and no one hears?

No conservative voices? The media was much more conservative as a whole compared to today? Before Fox,Limbaugh and Drudge(taken over by sjw btw) there wasn't a facebook,twitter or cnn either.
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
My opposition has more to do with tactics than morals tbh. You mention truth but what does truth matter if it's not reported? Does a tree make a sound if it falls and no one hears?

No conservative voices? The media was much more conservative as a whole compared to today? Before Fox,Limbaugh and Drudge(taken over by sjw btw) there wasn't a facebook,twitter or cnn either.

I'm sorry, but you're showing serious historical ignorance here.

The Vietnam War was literally lost because the leftist media decided to lie in lockstep about it to the American people.
 

Sir 1000

Shitlord
I'm sorry, but you're showing serious historical ignorance here.

The Vietnam War was literally lost because the leftist media decided to lie in lockstep about it to the American people.
So it was lost because the media lied to the people..............you do realize my point?
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
So it was lost because the media lied to the people..............you do realize my point?

And do you realize my point? As bad as the media is now, it was just as bad fifty years ago, and had more power and control.

Now, in spite of the tech-giant crackdown, there's still plenty of alternate media available, and the MSM's credibility continues to plummet.

It's not a good situation. It's not as good a situation as it was four years ago. But it's massively better than it was thirty, forty, or fifty years ago.

The Truth got Reagan into office, it broke decades of Democrat control of the legislature in the 90's, it destroyed Hillary's campaign, and it's destroying the Biden campaign right now.
 

Arch Dornan

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We were actually winning the war pretty well. WE jsut wernt allowd to hold land, and not allowed to obliterate the Ho Chi Minn trail
What fun toys would you want your boys and girls to have in a jungle fight besides drones if you would ever get back into the jungle?

The Truth got Reagan into office, it broke decades of Democrat control of the legislature in the 90's, it destroyed Hillary's campaign, and it's destroying the Biden campaign right now.
Weren't both parties involved in it before Reagan decided it was time to get out? LBJ was the one who sent more troops that made the war much more troublesome.

The media just did what they wanted contrary to both party's interests?
 

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