United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

[Deleted member 88]

At best the left is losing its control of its own margins. The groups that want vengeance now, that want total domination now, that want destruction now-they have lost patience with their own elites. The movers and shakers are patient, and if nothing else disciplined and willing to accept stalled progress and the occasional set back. The foot soldiers who are out for blood-well they want it and they want it in larger volumes than the small cups they have been given and are tired of being told, "just wait a little longer".

This will either galvanize people who oppose them, at least electorally, they will break free and the inmates will control the asylum, or the elites will get them under control/throw dust on people's eyes and keep on moving at the pace they had set.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

Soifying control over all institutions of power is an odd way to destroy themselves.

This is mostly a show of their overwelming power and showing the right to be totally imponent and powerless before them.

Pretty much. Leftists are basically allowed to run amock while everyone else is made to still made to be a bitch. This current movement has made it so that all institutions submit and show their allegiance to leftism and increase their censorship and activities against the right.

And yet people still seem to think "OMG Trump!"

I mean, I can agree that striking back against the protesters is exactly what leftists want as they can then cry tyranny but he could have done something else other then do nothing at all.

Will he win a 2nd term? Fuck know's at this point whats going to happen. Biden is weak as shit. But Trump has covid and riots as a mark against him.

 

[Deleted member 88]

Biden actually serves their interests well, given his dementia. His predictably leftist cabinet and VP would set all decisions and Biden would do what he was told. He would be a puppet, a figurehead.

If his dementia became too bad, or hard to hide-they'd have him not run for a 2nd term.

With his VP taking the reigns after that.

 

[f1onagher]

This thread moves pretty fast, so someone may have already posted this, but I find it to be an interesting take:

This Leftist Tantrum Is an Information Operation and Trump Is Winning It

townhall.com

I am incredibly skeptical of the article's assessment of Trump being a genius, mostly because it's way to easy to let that kind of thing lead you into the madness of "Trump is a 4D chess player who's going to BTFO everyone", but I do think he's playing this smartly. The more this shit festers, the more stuff comes out that the media either can't cover up or has to justify at the cost of alienating sane people.

Also, on sheer principle, I find Trump denying the leftist media what it wants to be a satisfying goal in and of itself.

I agree with you on Trump. Trump is no master genius, but he is a savvy player in the field of public perception. And the Left has taken for granted that the media will carry their water and spin reality for them. But this isn't the 1970's anymore. Walter Cronkite can't tell everyone what to think anymore. The internet is delivering what I like to think of as Rush Limbaugh's revenge. An ocean of alternative information sources united only in their contempt for 'legacy media'. Meaning that Democratic spin only plays with their devoted acolytes. Everyone else on the other hand gets to watch the king prance around in the buff.

 

[Yinko]

Meaning that Democratic spin only plays with their devoted acolytes. Everyone else on the other hand gets to watch the king prance around in the buff.

I have to wonder about that. I certainly agree that the left wingers only listen to left win media, the right is the same for the most part. What about the center? I get the impression that most of them pay attention to "legacy media", like the Washington Post, because they don't pay enough attention to realize that most of them have become politically compromized and are married to one of the parties (generally the democrats). That would mean that the center majority also hears that same message to the exclusion of almost all others.

 

[bullethead]

I have to wonder about that. I certainly agree that the left wingers only listen to left win media, the right is the same for the most part. What about the center? I get the impression that most of them pay attention to "legacy media", like the Washington Post, because they don't pay enough attention to realize that most of them have become politically compromized and are married to one of the parties (generally the democrats). That would mean that the center majority also hears that same message to the exclusion of almost all others.

These days, the center is being exposed to a lot of social media as well as legacy media, so what a specific individual is getting is going to be influenced/determined by the people they follow/friend. So some people are getting the legacy media spin and evidence contradicting it, others are getting legacy media spin and stuff that toes the party line, and others may be disconnected entirely from legacy media and totally dependent on what their friends/followers are posting.

 

[Cherico]

I have to wonder about that. I certainly agree that the left wingers only listen to left win media, the right is the same for the most part. What about the center? I get the impression that most of them pay attention to "legacy media", like the Washington Post, because they don't pay enough attention to realize that most of them have become politically compromized and are married to one of the parties (generally the democrats). That would mean that the center majority also hears that same message to the exclusion of almost all others.

The problem the legacy media has is this, in order for propaganda to work it must be at some point based on observable reality. If your propaganda goes against observable reality on a cosistant basis then your going to end up losing more and more credibility.

The Legacy media went all in against trump and that was their biggest mistake. Because they didn't do basic fact checking couldn't pace themselves and have been caught in one major lie after another. When you talk about how peaceful the protests are when the city behind you is visibly on fire people are going to tend to think your full of shit.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

Biden actually serves their interests well, given his dementia. His predictably leftist cabinet and VP would set all decisions and Biden would do what he was told. He would be a puppet, a figurehead.

If his dementia became too bad, or hard to hide-they'd have him not run for a 2nd term.

With his VP taking the reigns after that.

You're absolutely right. I've stated before that imo, Biden is a puppet president. The VP would be the actual ruler alongside the Cabinet. I meant weak in the sense that well he has dementia and does not do much so he may be weak for undecided.

Some more history defacement:



It would just be done to the confederates and they deserve it bigots 😡 !!!

 

[Arch Dornan]

It is a couple years old, as I remember seeing it before. But unless they made another, it is old.

What a disappointment.

 

[Arch Dornan]

Bye bye statue.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

Bye bye statue.

More evidence that the slippery slope is real.

 

[MelancholicMechanicus]

Tear down statues of former presidents, no one cares. Tear down a shitty cardboard sign, vandalism charge.

3 men, including sheriff’s worker in Ventura County, under investigation for vandalism of BLM sign

Three men, including employees of a sheriff’s office and district attorney’s office, have been arrested for vandalizing a Black Lives Matter sign in Thousand Oaks.

www.foxla.com

And remember: in 2017, John "It's current year!" Oliver made fun of Trump for saying people would go after Jefferson and Washington statues next.

 

[Jouaint]

Bye bye statue.

But you know it would be fine if these statues were part of a museum collection. The protestors aren't objecting to their mere existence.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

But you know it would be fine if these statues were part of a museum collection. The protestors aren't objecting to their mere existence.

Thats what @Bacle said too. But I suspect that left to their own devices, the leftists would enter the museums and set them on fire.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Thats what @Bacle said too. But I suspect that left to their own devices, the leftists would enter the museums and set them on fire.

Before that happens, I suspect that the museums, even if said statues and monuments get surprising number of viewers. Will move them down to a dusty old basement and cover them up

 

[CurtisLemay]

I've kept mostly silent, for a variety of reasons, mainly letting other pieces on the internet do my talking for me. But it just seems that the left is content to hurtle us towards catastrophe.

It feels like I can't have decent conversations with anyone on the other side anymore. We are radicalizing, and while there is enough blame to go around, this time, we haven't seen a single major voice on the left say "stop this and go home." We have seen them propose to destroy the institutions that keep law and order and replace them with ill-defined theories that only make sense in a marijuana-fueled college sophomore's late-night talk with his buddies in the dorm.

Matt Walsh's editorial has crystalised my own feelings. I fear the rubicon has been crossed, in a process so slowly, we may not have noticed the moment it happened. I pray this can end peacefully, but my hope is gone. I fear we have bred a generation of Hostis humani generis. The Visigoths aren't at the gates..they were already inside.

And that is the part I weep for the most. We did not educate them with a love of their country. We did not teach them anything except blind loyalty to a malignant ideal that murdered 100 million and hate that would have surpassed anything Orwell imagined in 1984.

We failed them. And now, we cannot help them. All we can do now is save all we love from them.

 

[Arch Dornan]

I've kept mostly silent, for a variety of reasons, mainly letting other pieces on the internet do my talking for me. But it just seems that the left is content to hurtle us towards catastrophe.

It feels like I can't have decent conversations with anyone on the other side anymore. We are radicalizing, and while there is enough blame to go around, this time, we haven't seen a single major voice on the left say "stop this and go home." We have seen them propose to destroy the institutions that keep law and order and replace them with ill-defined theories that only make sense in a marajuana-fueled college sophmore's late-night talk with his buddies in the dorm.

Matt Walsh's editorial has crystalised my own feelings. I fear the rubicon has been crossed, in a process so slowly, we may not have noticed the moment it happened. I pray this can end peacefully, but my hope is gone. I fear we have bred a generation of Hostis humani generis. The Visigoths aren't at the gates..they were already inside.

And that is the part I weep for the most. We did not educate them with a love of their country. We did not teach them anything except blind loyalty to a malignant ideal that murdered 100 million and hate that would have surpassed anything Orwell imagined in 1984.

We failed them. And now, we cannot help them. All we can do now is save all we love from them.

I am waiting to see that. The radicalisation of everyone sane and the counter cultural revolution.

 

[Bacle]

I've kept mostly silent, for a variety of reasons, mainly letting other pieces on the internet do my talking for me. But it just seems that the left is content to hurtle us towards catastrophe.

It feels like I can't have decent conversations with anyone on the other side anymore. We are radicalizing, and while there is enough blame to go around, this time, we haven't seen a single major voice on the left say "stop this and go home." We have seen them propose to destroy the institutions that keep law and order and replace them with ill-defined theories that only make sense in a marajuana-fueled college sophmore's late-night talk with his buddies in the dorm.

Matt Walsh's editorial has crystalised my own feelings. I fear the rubicon has been crossed, in a process so slowly, we may not have noticed the moment it happened. I pray this can end peacefully, but my hope is gone. I fear we have bred a generation of Hostis humani generis. The Visigoths aren't at the gates..they were already inside.

And that is the part I weep for the most. We did not educate them with a love of their country. We did not teach them anything except blind loyalty to a malignant ideal that murdered 100 million and hate that would have surpassed anything Orwell imagined in 1984.

We failed them. And now, we cannot help them. All we can do now is save all we love from them.

I hope you are wrong, but fear you are right.

About all we can do now is pray Trump wins in November, and can get this shit sorted after that.

 

[AnimalNoodles]

I am waiting to see that. The radicalisation of everyone sane and the counter cultural revolution.

People can radicalise all they like. Without an elite willing to lead them they wont challenge the system in any meaningful way. The Social Justice Police state is here, and it will be crowd sourced, panoptic and total. Will it last forever? No. it wont even last this century, but the damage it will do to our culture will be truly historic.

 

[Arch Dornan]

People can radicalise all they like. Without an elite willing to lead them they wont challenge the system in any meaningful way. The Social Justice Police state is here, and it will be crowd sourced, panoptic and total. Will it last forever? No. it wont even last this century, but the damage it will do to our culture will be truly historic.

Indeed it will. I am waiting to see where it all ends.