United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

[Deleted member 88]

Probably will collapse due to factors entirely outside of its control. Namely either some sort of world war-possibly ending in a Chinese victory, the growth of certain technologies that destabilize the current order beyond its ability to manage(AI perhaps), and internecine fighting between its ruling elite. Or the total destruction of the modern state and social apparatus leading to barbarism for all.

I’m in my earlier twenties, in 2100-if I’m living I’ll be a hundred and three. I can definitely see it being gone by then, but the damage it will have done will not be reversed even minutely in my and many of us here’s lifetimes

The unfortunate lining here is-that when it collapses it won’t be a glorious rising of flowers and joy-it will likely be in the context of an apocalypse that more resembles The Walking Dead than any sort of restorative revolution. That may very well happen in the aftermath. And I doubt I will see that in my lifetime.

Any restoration of our culture-may be something that occurs in the 22nd century. It will probably be the remnants picking up what pieces they can and doing their best to reconstruct what they have deconstructed.

 

[Zachowon]

What a disappointment.

Yep!

Also, if a World war was too break out, there will be no winner. That is what would happen

 

[Arch Dornan]

Yep!

Also, if a World war was too break out, there will be no winner. That is what would happen

Ever since the first one no one really wins unless they make a profit off of it.

 

[Deleted member 88]

I suppose some major shock like an asteroid impact or carrington event would destabilize the global order and perhaps weaken the system enough it could be thrown off-at least in part.

A more devastating plague-that killed enough people so as to render their traditional means of control-the media and academia-empty and pointless in their official purposes might also work.

Problem is with all of this-the sort of things that would bring down this system are the sort of things that leave everyone-including and perhaps especially the people under it’s boot worse off than before.

And extinction level events-such as an asteroid impact similar to that which killed the dinosaurs or a supernova well-yes that would destroy the SJW power structure, but we’d all be dead so there’d be nothing to celebrate.

 

[Arch Dornan]

Defund the police they said. It'll keep the peace they said.

 

[Bigking321]

Man you guys need to lighten up.

We are not doomed.

All that's happening is that leftist cities and governments are letting the mob have free reign and the leftist media is doing their best to blow it out of proportion and act like it's a genuine thing happening and not something being propped up as much as it can.

They only have short term goals and are trying to wreck as much as they can before the election and blame trump for it.

But short AND long term they are hurting themselves terribly. No one wants this but the most extreme far leftists. Even the people supporting them only want it to cause problems, not because they actually believe in their cause.

They are driving people away from them in droves.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

We did not educate them with a love of their country.

Problem is, it's so much easier and "COOLER" to instead HATE their country, HATE the West

The most evil and repressive "The Man" in existence

Gotta keep finding more ways to tell "The Man" off and that even includes bullying and shitting on nerds and other heterosexual men

It makes them all look "COOL" and "ahead of the curve"

The moment people cease caring about being "morally superior" and about LARPING as "revolutionaries" then this might end for a long while

Course, aren't these douchebags or "White Liberals" actually a minority, a very vocal one but still a minority? They're probably gonna lose the moment sanity comes in large numbers

 

[GoldRanger]

Man you guys need to lighten up.

We are not doomed.

All that's happening is that leftist cities and governments are letting the mob have free reign and the leftist media is doing their best to blow it out of proportion and act like it's a genuine thing happening and not something being propped up as much as it can.

They only have short term goals and are trying to wreck as much as they can before the election and blame trump for it.

But short AND long term they are hurting themselves terribly. No one wants this but the most extreme far leftists. Even the people supporting them only want it to cause problems, not because they actually believe in their cause.

They are driving people away from them in droves.

Why isn't it reflected in polls then? Are all the polls rigged THAT much?

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Why isn't it reflected in polls then? Are all the polls rigged THAT much?

I think this sort of stuff may take years to really cause things to change

People live far away from those places and others may still be peer pressured into voting for Far Left types or even be made to be watched whilst voting and the like

 

[Bigking321]

Why isn't it reflected in polls then? Are all the polls rigged THAT much?

1. I'd say yeah for most of them.

2. What incentive is there for a trump voter to admit it to a pollster? It just makes you a target. I'm pretty sure most people are just keeping their heads down, doing their jobs, living there lives, and watching the news saying they want no part of this nonsense.

I'd bet quite a bit that trump wins more than he did the last election. The democrats are desperate. They are trying everything they can think of and trying to hide Biden as much as they can.

And a point Rush Limbaugh makes a lot. Who cares about the polls right now. Let's see where they are in three months.

 

[Cherico]

1. I'd say yeah for most of them.

2. What incentive is there for a trump voter to admit it to a pollster? It just makes you a target. I'm pretty sure most people are just keeping their heads down, doing their jobs, living there lives, and watching the news saying they want no part of this nonsense.

I'd bet quite a bit that trump wins more than he did the last election. The democrats are desperate. They are trying everything they can think of and trying to hide Biden as much as they can.

And a point Rush Limbaugh makes a lot. Who cares about the polls right now. Let's see where they are in three months.

personally I don't get why their so desperate.

In the worst case event where Trump wins.

They will still possess a large number of cities, still have a few states, will still have outsized influence in the social sphere. Gay marrage and rights are locked in.

What would happen is that you would get a conservative surpreme court but what would that really mean? They take the L on some gun issues and have to work on a local level but other then that they get to continue trucking on. Its not going to be the end of the world for them if they lose. Honestly their sever over reaction to EVERYTHING has hurt them far more then trump ever could.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

personally I don't get why their so desperate.

In the worst case event where Trump wins.

They will still possess a large number of cities, still have a few states, will still have outsized influence in the social sphere. Gay marrage and rights are locked in.

What would happen is that you would get a conservative surpreme court but what would that really mean? They take the L on some gun issues and have to work on a local level but other then that they get to continue trucking on. Its not going to be the end of the world for them if they lose. Honestly their sever over reaction to EVERYTHING has hurt them far more then trump ever could.

It's still a slap to the face

It spits on what they think of as being reality, it tells them that their idealized future isn't a guarantee

Even if his presence amounts to nothing for people against the Far-Left, that very fact he won is more than enough of an insult to set people into punching something

 

[Bigking321]

personally I don't get why their so desperate.

In the worst case event where Trump wins.

They will still possess a large number of cities, still have a few states, will still have outsized influence in the social sphere. Gay marrage and rights are locked in.

What would happen is that you would get a conservative surpreme court but what would that really mean? They take the L on some gun issues and have to work on a local level but other then that they get to continue trucking on. Its not going to be the end of the world for them if they lose. Honestly their sever over reaction to EVERYTHING has hurt them far more then trump ever could.

The main reason I can figure is that trump represents a fundamental threat to them and their system.

He was supposed to lose, but he won.

He was supposed to get crushed by their constant attacks and leaks and manufactured scandals but he just throws it back in their face and just keeps going.

They and the media have told everyone for 5 years that he's a idiot, a racist, a criminal, the greatest threat America has ever faced.

If they lose... to HIM... then what good is their power. They will have completely lost.

It will destroy the democrat party. The far left they coddled and used as a weapon will explode in their face. The sane people will want out. The establishment will be a laughingstock and lose all credibility.

And the Supreme Court. Possibly 2 more justices.

If they don't win... they lose.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

If they don't win... they lose.

There's even the question of "What comes after?" because outside of which politicians are in-power

I can see things like Universities and Public Schools being abandoned in favor of homeschooling, online education and trade schools. I doubt you can force people into said Public Education as easily.

And when it comes to say, Entertainment, well even if Trump lost, people were already leaving it gradually due to an increased amount of censorship & propaganda. The fact that independents with barely the same amount of resources can make better cool stuff and the fact there's already a YUGE backlog of content already made. Some will even be pirated before their censored.

REALLY makes you think whether or not the status quo can be changed back simply by having themselves back in power if people do things by themselves rather than rely on the businesses that hate them and the governments that also hate them

 

[Terthna]

1. I'd say yeah for most of them.

2. What incentive is there for a trump voter to admit it to a pollster? It just makes you a target. I'm pretty sure most people are just keeping their heads down, doing their jobs, living there lives, and watching the news saying they want no part of this nonsense.

I'd bet quite a bit that trump wins more than he did the last election. The democrats are desperate. They are trying everything they can think of and trying to hide Biden as much as they can.

And a point Rush Limbaugh makes a lot. Who cares about the polls right now. Let's see where they are in three months.

We haven't even gotten to the debates yet; those are going to be interesting. I swear though; after Trump wins, I am going to laugh in the face of anyone who tries to cite a poll as evidence of anything.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

We haven't even gotten to the debates yet; those are going to be interesting. I swear though; after Trump wins, I am going to laugh in the face of anyone who tries to cite a poll as evidence of anything.

I wonder what Biden will be saying about ice cream during the debates

That said, odds are the people you’ll be laughing at will not have watched the debate or will gaslight you and say that Trump was saying some horrible dumb stuff.....won’t actually mention whatever Biden said, I don’t think they can even feign liking him for long

 

[Floridaman]

personally I don't get why their so desperate.

In the worst case event where Trump wins.

They will still possess a large number of cities, still have a few states, will still have outsized influence in the social sphere. Gay marrage and rights are locked in.

What would happen is that you would get a conservative surpreme court but what would that really mean? They take the L on some gun issues and have to work on a local level but other then that they get to continue trucking on. Its not going to be the end of the world for them if they lose. Honestly their sever over reaction to EVERYTHING has hurt them far more then trump ever could.

Because their cities are bankrupt, as are most of their states. In effect if they they don’t have power on the national level, they will have nothing.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Because their cities are bankrupt, as are most of their states. In effect if they they don’t have power on the national level, they will have nothing.

And how else will they be able to spend YUGE amounts of money on those crazy college students with worthless degrees? If they can’t get the money state-wise, they gotta get it from every red out there

 

[AnimalNoodles]

Because their cities are bankrupt, as are most of their states. In effect if they they don’t have power on the national level, they will have nothing.

They dominate literally every institution. They dont need to win every election.

They hate Donald Trump because Trump became an avatar for a certain class of people, a class of people they despise and define themselves against. Trump being in power is a visceral threat to their very identity.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

They dominate literally every institution. They dont need to win every election.

They hate Donald Trump because Trump became an avatar for a certain class of people, a class of people they despise and define themselves against. Trump being in power is a visceral threat to their very identity.

Trump also casually speaks whatever he wants and isn’t into the PC WOKE shit

PC WOKE is a sort of language for the “I am a better/nicer/gooder person than you” sort of “class” that isn’t really dependent on how good looking, talented, accomplished or rich a person is

He’s so “uncultured” it hurts