United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

LifeisTiresome said:
Exactly what this poster says @GoldRanger

Basically, the sentiments I've seen is that Conservatives conserve nothing. They are delayers, nothing more.
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I mean in a sane world there'd no issue; but our world has lost its fucking mind. One side of the discourse has abandoned liberalism entirely in favour of slamming hard into the weird 'nothing is real!' Position they've got going on; I'm not really sure what the hell the solution is for America.

LifeisTiresome said:
Going by this standard, eventually you will have it that drag kids and so on will become a conservative position and democrats will have something even more outrageous as their position.

There is a meme picture about this I saw before.

@Senor Hortler

You have that meme about what a future conservative and their positions would be?
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Nah, but I know the one you mean. I prefer this one.
Has the same energy to it.
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Senor Hortler said:
I mean in a sane world there'd no issue; but our world has lost its fucking mind. One side of the discourse has abandoned liberalism entirely in favour of slamming hard into the weird 'nothing is real!' Position they've got going on; I'm not really sure what the hell the solution is for America.
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Going back to the topic on hand, extreme “political correctness” is what’s helping stop the authorities from stopping this mess, also the fact that “political correctness” kinda gives certain people power or ability over others



It’ll be really embarassing and ironic to have to get whatever conservatives and similar who are “minorities” to always be there

And the crowd is more-or-less extra shamed and stumbling over themselves when they realize the “Nazi” is a “POC”
 
CarlManvers2019 said:
Going back to the topic on hand, extreme “political correctness” is what’s helping stop the authorities from stopping this mess, also the fact that “political correctness” kinda gives certain people power or ability over others



It’ll be really embarassing and ironic to have to get whatever conservatives and similar who are “minorities” to always be there

And the crowd is more-or-less extra shamed and stumbling over themselves when they realize the “Nazi” is a “POC”
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I think you misunderstand political cortectness. It's not just about optics or power. It's a way of changing the way any argument or thought is framed mentally; the hard left establishment, vanguard party and academics have no issue with black conservatives; they're simply operating on internalised racism and can be ignored. They'll come around when whiteness is erased from the discourse; because nonwhites are the victims of system wide issues, not individual choice.

PC has never been thinks like 'you cannot say bah bah black sheep!' It's a method of reorienting the entirety of discourse into a framework that benefits the person pushing for PC, it limits the approaches to a problem/argument/enemy to ones that fall into the acceptable narrative. Tossing out a black conservative is still fine within the systemic oppression narative simply because 'whiteness' and white people are two different concepts (they hate both); a black person can assimilate into whiteness even if they aren't white.
 
GoldRanger said:
That's what conservatives are supposed to be though, they want to conserve present day society, it's literally in the name.
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Senor Hortler said:
Except they don't actually conserve, they just stall while in power and then don't roll anything back when they can. Modern conservatives lack the will to power that the left has had driving them to 'restructure' society as they see fit. It's just social liberalism in effect if not in rhetoric because the pushback is purely in words.
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Their is conservatism for stalling change and reactionaries for rolling back it, primarily because the nature of modern liberalism is to constantly and blindly stumble forward even to it's detriment and even then no particular politician can be blamed for this as conservatism has always been staling by it's nature against other forces that natural develop as society evolves.
 
GoldRanger said:
That's what conservatives are supposed to be though, they want to conserve present day society, it's literally in the name.
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No. Not in America at least.

Conservatism is about conserving the founding values of the nation.

And yes, I'd agree that far too damn many 'conservatives' are content to do nothing but fight a delaying action to slow the retreat. That's part of why we're willing to put up with the fact that Trump isn't a fiscal conservative, because he'll actually take the fight to the left about a lot of cultural issues.

If he follows up on section 230 enforcement, that'll be a major counter-attack all by itself.

Part of what's painful about all this, is the whole 'action will happen when the pain of inaction is worse.' It takes something like these riots, with cars, buildings, and businesses burning in major cities, with some people being killed, and many more being seriously injured, to actually galvanize a lot of people into action.

In the end, while I think that the Democrats made a conscious decision to ruthlessly use Floyd's death for political advantage, the riots they've enflamed and supported will actually cause more support for the right and Republicans.
 
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Remember the story about Buffalo cops resigning in solidarity with two other officers who had been suspended? Apparently, that was fake news, and their union lied to cover for the fact that those officers quit the volunteer team (not resigned as police) because the union said it wouldn't pay for any legal defense related to the riots protests:
 
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Wife: Man hit by statue at Portsmouth Confederate monument flatlined twice on way to hospital

The wife of Chris Green said the father of two was in a medically induced coma. Green was at a protest in Olde Towne when people pulled a statue down on him.
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So are they dumping all Police or just beat cops? Because community led forensics experts or K9 handlers isn't inspiring much confidence. There are after all strict rules on evidence handling, crime scene protection, interviewing witnesses etc. I'm guessing there must be some sort of professional standards still in place in those situations?
 
Harlock said:
So are they dumping all Police or just beat cops? Because community led forensics experts or K9 handlers isn't inspiring much confidence. There are after all strict rules on evidence handling, crime scene protection, interviewing witnesses etc. I'm guessing there must be some sort of professional standards still in place in those situations?
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Why would they need evidence collection? They will just use social works and mental health services. K9s are also racist, they discriminate against non-furries. So they got to go as well.
 
Harlock said:
So are they dumping all Police or just beat cops? Because community led forensics experts or K9 handlers isn't inspiring much confidence. There are after all strict rules on evidence handling, crime scene protection, interviewing witnesses etc. I'm guessing there must be some sort of professional standards still in place in those situations?
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Not to worry their new trials will help.
 
Harlock said:
So are they dumping all Police or just beat cops? Because community led forensics experts or K9 handlers isn't inspiring much confidence. There are after all strict rules on evidence handling, crime scene protection, interviewing witnesses etc. I'm guessing there must be some sort of professional standards still in place in those situations?
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The luxury of having well equipped and trained police available to protect your property is actually another sign of White Privilege.

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Minneapolis City Council President Claims Fear of Dismantling Police ‘Comes From A Place of Privilege’ | National Review

Nine city council members, who together form a veto-proof majority on the twelve-seat body, have already signed a pledge to dismantle the police department.
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CNN said:
Fears of dismantling local police forces come from a “place of privilege,” Minneapolis City Council president Lisa Bender told CNN on Monday.

“What if in the middle of the night my home is broken into. Who do I call?” CNN anchor Alisyn Camerota asked Bender after the city council president laid out her vision for a post-police city.

"I hear that loud and clear from a lot of my neighbors, and I know — and myself, too, and I know that that comes from a place of privilege,” Bender responded. “For those of us for whom the system is working, I think we need to step back and imagine what it would feel like to already live in that reality where calling the police may mean more harm instead.”
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Harlock said:
So are they dumping all Police or just beat cops? Because community led forensics experts or K9 handlers isn't inspiring much confidence. There are after all strict rules on evidence handling, crime scene protection, interviewing witnesses etc. I'm guessing there must be some sort of professional standards still in place in those situations?
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What the activists pushing this want is an omnipresent nanny state with adult nannies readily available everywhere and everywhen:

 
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More businesses fearing property damage hire private security guards in wake of protests

The push toward private security began during the coronavirus pandemic closures, with businesses fearing break-ins on abandoned streets. It continued even as businesses reopened, with staff sometimes encountering unusually hostile customers seemingly stressed out by the pandemic. Then, things...
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Guys, I think the age of the cop is over, now reigns the age of the PMC....or just the PSG
 
CarlManvers2019 said:
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More businesses fearing property damage hire private security guards in wake of protests

The push toward private security began during the coronavirus pandemic closures, with businesses fearing break-ins on abandoned streets. It continued even as businesses reopened, with staff sometimes encountering unusually hostile customers seemingly stressed out by the pandemic. Then, things...
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Guys, I think the age of the cop is over, now reigns the age of the PMC....or just the PSG
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Or the age of the...........



Robocop!!! :devilish: :p
 
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