United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

Arch Dornan

Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
thing is it was slowly getting better. less people were rascist the KKK had like 10,000 members. laws were struck down. I wouldn't say it was perfect but the way to fight racism is to not care about race. demonizing one group as carrying an original sin that they can never atone for and creating a separate standard for them only serves to drive division between people.
It will. This will simply build resentment for a new cycle to emerge and this time the blacks are not the majority when there's lots of other ethnic groups in America who'll resent the special treatment.
 

Terthna

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Maybe if fewer ethno-nationalists and white supremacists (of both the open and closed variety) stained our nation with thier presense, black people wouldn't feel they need to go to these lengths to be heard and media wouldn't be doing this.

All these problems right now come down to one issue; white supremacists are still a cancer on our nation, even if we thought we were in remission. White supremacists make life difficult for non-racist/non-ethno-nationalist white people and minorities; never forget the KKK hated Catholics as much as blacks. People wonder why folks want Condeferate and slavery reminders in the south moved to museums, instead of left in the open; it's not that hard to figure out why things like that appeal as ways to show change.
Thing is, traditional ethno-nationalists and white supremacists are vanishingly small minorities; because now they paint themselves as anti-racist, and protectors of "lesser" ethnic groups. In other words, their racism has turned "benevolent". Another issue are the black supremacists, as our culture never managed to produce much push-back against them; because their grievances with society were seen as justified once upon a time. Now though? You're a racist if you draw attention to the fact that they even exist, let alone if you criticize their hateful and violent rhetoric.
 

Doomsought

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All these problems right now come down to one issue; white supremacists are still a cancer on our nation, even if we thought we were in remission. White supremacists make life difficult for non-racist/non-ethno-nationalist white people and minorities; never forget the KKK hated Catholics as much as blacks
The last time I saw the KKK they were geriatrics that were probably still in it only because they were too senile to change.

The left like to pretend the problems we have right now are the ones we had 50 or more years ago.
 

Terthna

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The last time I saw the KKK they were geriatrics that were probably still in it only because they were too senile to change.

The left like to pretend the problems we have right now are the ones we had 50 or more years ago.
That's because the regressive left does not want you to focus on how they're being racist now; because ultimately the same DNA is in both groups. Those who would have joined the KKK fifty years ago, now join groups like Antifa.
 

Senor Hortler

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Maybe if fewer ethno-nationalists and white supremacists (of both the open and closed variety) stained our nation with thier presense, black people wouldn't feel they need to go to these lengths to be heard and media wouldn't be doing this.

All these problems right now come down to one issue; white supremacists are still a cancer on our nation, even if we thought we were in remission. White supremacists make life difficult for non-racist/non-ethno-nationalist white people and minorities; never forget the KKK hated Catholics as much as blacks. People wonder why folks want Condeferate and slavery reminders in the south moved to museums, instead of left in the open; it's not that hard to figure out why things like that appeal as ways to show change.
That's a crock of shit and you know it. There is no 'white supremacist' stain. Blacks in the USA have it better than anywhere else in the world, blacks in the UK have it better, Blacks in France, in Germany, in Sweden, in any western nation you care to mention and they have the highest standards of living, of education, and healthcare in the world. They have countless programs, and systems, and advocacy groups to help them, they have reserved spots to let them get ahead, and billions spent to 'lift them out of poverty'. The issue isn't white nationalism, it's that the black community worldwide is just shit. They are a collection of whiny, self entitled children that refuse stand on their own two feet and always demand more from the system that supports them.

They are a tax burden, they drag down everything around them and destroy neighbourhoods they move into. White Flight doesn't exist because of 'ethno nats' it exists because wherever black communities congregate turns into a slum and people don't want to live in a fucking slum. These people demand more and more and more and instead of saying 'no' people pander to them and try and massage their ego.

This entire protest has been for a man that by all rights everyone should really be quite happy is fucking dead. He was a drug addicted, drug dealing criminal that saw no issue threatening a pregnant woman with a handgun. This is the man held up right now by BLM and their kind. Black people are being heard, they have always been heard, and they always say the same thing 'We want to do what we want to you, without you being able to stop us' it's always 'gibs me dat and thank me for taking it'. These communities aren't enriching, they're shitholes, these people aren't peaceful, they're violent. I hope to god that people take this as the sign that it is that these people fucking hate them, and are never going to not hate them so long as they are being fed the idea that they are supposed to be angry rather than fucking grateful for what they have been given and should be thanking whatever god is out there that their ancestors were taken as slaves; because the alternative would be growing up in the 3rd world.
 

Terthna

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That's a crock of shit and you know it. There is no 'white supremacist' stain. Blacks in the USA have it better than anywhere else in the world, blacks in the UK have it better, Blacks in France, in Germany, in Sweden, in any western nation you care to mention and they have the highest standards of living, of education, and healthcare in the world. They have countless programs, and systems, and advocacy groups to help them, they have reserved spots to let them get ahead, and billions spent to 'lift them out of poverty'. The issue isn't white nationalism, it's that the black community worldwide is just shit. They are a collection of whiny, self entitled children that refuse stand on their own two feet and always demand more from the system that supports them.

They are a tax burden, they drag down everything around them and destroy neighbourhoods they move into. White Flight doesn't exist because of 'ethno nats' it exists because wherever black communities congregate turns into a slum and people don't want to live in a fucking slum. These people demand more and more and more and instead of saying 'no' people pander to them and try and massage their ego.

This entire protest has been for a man that by all rights everyone should really be quite happy is fucking dead. He was a drug addicted, drug dealing criminal that saw no issue threatening a pregnant woman with a handgun. This is the man held up right now by BLM and their kind. Black people are being heard, they have always been heard, and they always say the same thing 'We want to do what we want to you, without you being able to stop us' it's always 'gibs me dat and thank me for taking it'. These communities aren't enriching, they're shitholes, these people aren't peaceful, they're violent. I hope to god that people take this as the sign that it is that these people fucking hate them, and are never going to not hate them so long as they are being fed the idea that they are supposed to be angry rather than fucking grateful for what they have been given and should be thanking whatever god is out there that their ancestors were taken as slaves; because the alternative would be growing up in the 3rd world.
You're confusing yesterday's white supremacist with today's; today's white supremacist insists that black people will always need help from the superior white man, and that all their problems can be traced to him.
 

Bacle

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That's a crock of shit and you know it. There is no 'white supremacist' stain. Blacks in the USA have it better than anywhere else in the world, blacks in the UK have it better, Blacks in France, in Germany, in Sweden, in any western nation you care to mention and they have the highest standards of living, of education, and healthcare in the world. They have countless programs, and systems, and advocacy groups to help them, they have reserved spots to let them get ahead, and billions spent to 'lift them out of poverty'. The issue isn't white nationalism, it's that the black community worldwide is just shit. They are a collection of whiny, self entitled children that refuse stand on their own two feet and always demand more from the system that supports them.

They are a tax burden, they drag down everything around them and destroy neighbourhoods they move into. White Flight doesn't exist because of 'ethno nats' it exists because wherever black communities congregate turns into a slum and people don't want to live in a fucking slum. These people demand more and more and more and instead of saying 'no' people pander to them and try and massage their ego.

This entire protest has been for a man that by all rights everyone should really be quite happy is fucking dead. He was a drug addicted, drug dealing criminal that saw no issue threatening a pregnant woman with a handgun. This is the man held up right now by BLM and their kind. Black people are being heard, they have always been heard, and they always say the same thing 'We want to do what we want to you, without you being able to stop us' it's always 'gibs me dat and thank me for taking it'. These communities aren't enriching, they're shitholes, these people aren't peaceful, they're violent. I hope to god that people take this as the sign that it is that these people fucking hate them, and are never going to not hate them so long as they are being fed the idea that they are supposed to be angry rather than fucking grateful for what they have been given and should be thanking whatever god is out there that their ancestors were taken as slaves; because the alternative would be growing up in the 3rd world.
The only crock of shit here that I see is you, given the way you are talking about blacks.
You're confusing yesterday's white supremacist with today's; today's white supremacist insists that black people will always need help from the superior white man, and that all their problems can be traced to him.
No, he's not confusing anything, his words are quite clear, as his attitude towards blacks.
 

Sailor.X

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Haha. What.

I wonder at what point white people are going to snap? First we're asked to kneel to the blacks, then apologise to the blacks, then not police the blacks, now the blacks get preferential treatment. Multiculti is a fucking cancer.
Really gotta wonder how oppressed the “black community” is, if both the government and the corporations and the elites bend over backwards to try getting brownie points from them
Some white business owner should sue uber and yelp for racial discrimination.
I hate it.
"Slowly raises hand"

Um guys I hate to break this to you but you are falling for echo chamber think again. If you do some more research you will find this only happens in the Blue State/ Heavy liberal areas of the country. This is no where even close to a major nation wide thing. Don't fall into the same internet think SB has fallen into. Just saying.
 

Jormungandr

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This is edging into black Jim Crow. For the white guilt a white person must give up their seat to a black.

If I go to a restaurant, it's because of factors like liking the food, the service, the atmosphere, hygiene, et cetera. You know, normal things.

Not because its staff and/or owners are exclusively white, black, Asian, or even fucking Martians. 😒

Yes, I'm white. No, I'm not racist because I don't feel some sort of racial guilt bullshit. No, I'm not racist for not wanting to give black people or other people of other ethnicities preferential treatment because they're black or Asian or et cetera.

This fucking decade, man.
 

PeliusAnar

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"Slowly raises hand"

Um guys I hate to break this to you but you are falling for echo chamber think again. If you do some more research you will find this only happens in the Blue State/ Heavy liberal areas of the country. This is no where even close to a major nation wide thing. Don't fall into the same internet think SB has fallen into. Just saying.
It doesn't matter what part of the country this is occurring in. It is still racist and discrimination. People should sue.
 

Senor Hortler

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You're confusing yesterday's white supremacist with today's; today's white supremacist insists that black people will always need help from the superior white man, and that all their problems can be traced to him.
No, you're going with 'the left are the real racist' bollocks. They're not. They're just moral cowards that hate their own race. They don't hate the black man, they just like having their own self imposed guilt soothed. The 'actual white supremacists' and ethnonationalists like me don't want to be around them. I'd happily hand over the Falklands, or some other piece of shit territory that we still have to blacks, and get them out of my fucking country. If they want to bitch and whine and complain that they suffer in one of the most prosperous nations on earth because we have the gall to hold them to the same standards that we hold our own citizens then can fuck off and found their own nations.

Bacle is 100% right, I do not like Black people as an ethnic group, as a proportion of the population they are more violent, they are less educated, and they are a tax burden on the nation. They also seem to think the world owes them a favour when the reality is that they should be grateful my ancestors didn't cut their balls off when they took them like the Arabs did. Black people in the west live a state of sheltered, privileged existence paid for by white peoples taxes.
The only crock of shit here that I see is you, given the way you are talking about blacks.
No, he's not confusing anything, his words are quite clear, as his attitude towards blacks.
'No you're a racist' Great comeback. Yeah, I am a racist. I can in fact recognize patterns.
They commit more crime than the native population, everywhere they go. They earn less than the natives everywhere they go, they score lower on education than the natives everywhere they go. They do not integrate, they ghettoize, they vote and act and seem to fucking think as a racial group wherever they go.

What exactly is incorrect in my statement? Do blacks statistically commit a proportional amount of crime for their population in the UK? In America? In Sweden? In France? Or do they commit more? Are their levels of literacy, and overall education lower than the average? Are they a tax burden on a tax benefit? What exactly do they bring to the table besides criminality and cost?

Or do you just not like what I've said because it's uncomfortable. Fourteen thousand girls - likely more but these are the ones we know about - have been systematically raped with the help - and in some cases such as Amjad Ditta the participation - of our 'ethnically aware' police force in the UK as a result of bringing in pakistani migrants, I imagine they'd have been pretty uncomfortable. Non white communities in white nations do nothing but relentlessly victimise not only each other, but everyone around them as well both in direct criminality, and in the way they leech off of the systems that support them. But the moral cowards in our media and our government do little but talk about how 'we' need to come together from their gated communities. I grew up in a mixed community and all that is taught me was that my own kind were the only kind I can trust to behave in a manner that I'd find acceptable. I'll stop being a racist when England is populated by the English, not being invaded by the diaspora of the worlds slums.

EDIT: Wait, wait wait. I've terribly mischaracterised a community here and I aplogise for that. It wasn't fourteen thousand girls systematically raped, beaten, mutilated and sexually enslaved with the silence in some cases support of our police (and politicians, where the equalities minister a pakistani woman told the girls to shut up for diversities sakes). It was 18'700. How silly of me.
 
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Culsu

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I feel like more often than not this is not a singular issue, but one where one part of society enables the worst impulses of the other part of society, or in this case, an ethnic group. It's a matter of ceeding control under the assumption that such a move would be rewarded by, for example, votes and voter loyalty. If you have a certain blue party on the one hand cuddling the worst loudmouth elements of certain other groups, the power dynamics of that situation will never lead to anything good. Because the only way for both to remain relevant is to peddle each others' grievances.

Edit: Like, if you take BLM and the Democrats you're bound to get vastly different outcomes from when the same group were to be represented by, say, Thomas Sowell and the Republicans. That is also something that can be easily transplanted across societies. You'll note that people can achieve quite marvelous things if they aren't constantly told that they are victims, what happens is never their fault, and they are owed everything.
 
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Senor Hortler

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I feel like more often than not this is not a singular issue, but one where one part of society enables the worst impulses of the other part of society, or in this case, an ethnic group. It's a matter of ceeding control under the assumption that such a move would be rewarded by, for example, votes and voter loyalty. If you have a certain blue party on the one hand cuddling the worst loudmouth elements of certain other groups, the power dynamics of that situation will never lead to anything good. Because the only way for both to remain relevant is to peddle each others' grievances.
It's racial minorities being used like Janissary voters. The UK labour tried it, and the conservatives want to bring in 3 million Hong Kongers for the same reason.
 

Guardian Box

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It's racial minorities being used like Janissary voters. The UK labour tried it, and the conservatives want to bring in 3 million Hong Kongers for the same reason.
I don't see much of a problem with Hong-Kongers though. They are from a fairly well developed country, and you'd be saving them from the encroaching fascist dictatorships that's about to swallow their country.
 

Floridaman

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It's racial minorities being used like Janissary voters. The UK labour tried it, and the conservatives want to bring in 3 million Hong Kongers for the same reason.
More because it seems like the hong kongers are better representatives of western values than the domestic left.

Edit; if you look at hong kong and its culture the people are hard working, value their family, like the free market, and hate communism. What isn't to like.
 

Senor Hortler

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I don't see much of a problem with Hong-Kongers though. They are from a fairly well developed country, and you'd be saving them from the encroaching fascist dictatorships that's about to swallow their country.
More because it seems like the hong kongers are better representatives of western values than the domestic left.
I mean yes, but I'd much rather they go to Taiwan; less of a trek for them, it would strengthen an ally of ours, and it would probably be easier for them get jobs, work there and settle down than in the UK.

I mean I'd rather them go to Taiwan, but that does presuppose that Taiwan is going to be there in the next twenty years; which is a bit er...yeah. :(
 

Floridaman

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Once again I would like to note that when you remove the children of single mothers the discrepancy between black and white crime rates vanishes. If you want to help the black community you have to restore the respect, authority and position of black fathers.
Yep, prior to the great society African American poverty was dropping at a similar rate to white poverty, and all metrics were improving, following that program, the trend was broken.
 

MelancholicMechanicus

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Democrats are now gonna try and force a bill to reduce Trump's power to use the Insurrection Act.


I wonder how exactly they plan on passing this.
 

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