Duke Nukem
Hail to the king baby
Oh they'll be fiery alright .
United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots
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That’s the entire problem.
Do you know how many legal things the Governor would have to go through to let the NG fire on people? They are literally a defensive wall, and they aren't really able to arrest besides MPs.
DarthOne
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I assume that they can return fire if fired upon?
Not even then really. I don't know the NG ROE for this, where as the Active cant open fire if fired upon. I think they can be used for riot control but can not open fire unless ordered by the Governor with state approval. From what I know
Duke Nukem
Hail to the king baby
Ah, so the national guard is handicapped then.
Any military force the US has is. Why do you think Federal officers had to protect a federal courthouse?
I can now see U-haul veting people more before renting out their trucks
Floridaman
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Also less Conspicuous, wonder if they were smart enough to pay cash?
Even if they did, Cameras can track the vehicle all the way back to where it came from.
Floridaman
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My thought was more, trace the money back, those two driving it are pawns, trace the money, and you find the actual players.
Certified_Heterosexual
The Falklands are Serbian, you cowards.
Building off the "transition integrity project" which has been discussed here before, here's some leftist war porn written by some nerd who makes board games, apparently:
https://medium.com/@...rs-cf5b2e980099
It's as dumb as you might imagine. He lays out a battle between "right wing militias," which he sincerely seems to think are a threat instead of obese LARPers that show up with open carry weapons and promptly get dispersed by the police without firing a shot. Likewise, this whopper is pure fantasy:
No, it hasn't. Some butthurt seat-warmers like Mattis wrote a letter once, mostly because they were pissed Trump hasn't been enthusiastic about Forever War and jeopardizing their future Boeing board of directors positions. The military itself is split politically, just like the rest of the country.
What generals are those? The US hasn't won a war since 1945, and we used to have way harder guys. The modern military is filled by AA mediocrities, logistics/cafeteria worker slobs, paper-pushers, Chair Force drone commandos, and Navy seawomen who get pregnant so they don't have to deploy (or else accidentally ram their ships into fishing boats in the South China Sea). The vast majority of special forces and active combat guys aren't gonna take a bullet for Team Biden.
In any event, I doubt "the military" would be any more useful in a civil war than "right wing militias." States aren't "red and blue" so much as they are "blue cities, purple suburbs, and red rural areas." What are they going to do, nuke Wyoming? Go door to door in the 'burbs and arrest people with Trump lawn signs? The US military has proven to be a complete failure at non-linear war as proven by Iraq, Afghanistan, and other attempts at fighting "right wing militias" IRL.
Liberals continually can't imagine that average Americans are not extremist militia members (the militia idiots already have their guns).
And of course the obligatory RUSSIA!
In case you couldn't guess, this is what Mike Selinker looks like:
You can tell this guy knows fuck all about America just by looking at his deeply untrustworthy face and realizing he hasn't stepped outside for thirty years. His musings on Russia and China are also very confused. China went through a civil war "along the Russian model?" Uh, no, you stupid cave goblin, why don't you go back to something more your depth, such as simulating Napoleonic battles by rolling dice? The only Russian models we'll be seeing are the ones invited to our victory party in November.
https://medium.com/@...rs-cf5b2e980099
It's as dumb as you might imagine. He lays out a battle between "right wing militias," which he sincerely seems to think are a threat instead of obese LARPers that show up with open carry weapons and promptly get dispersed by the police without firing a shot. Likewise, this whopper is pure fantasy:
No, it hasn't. Some butthurt seat-warmers like Mattis wrote a letter once, mostly because they were pissed Trump hasn't been enthusiastic about Forever War and jeopardizing their future Boeing board of directors positions. The military itself is split politically, just like the rest of the country.
What generals are those? The US hasn't won a war since 1945, and we used to have way harder guys. The modern military is filled by AA mediocrities, logistics/cafeteria worker slobs, paper-pushers, Chair Force drone commandos, and Navy seawomen who get pregnant so they don't have to deploy (or else accidentally ram their ships into fishing boats in the South China Sea). The vast majority of special forces and active combat guys aren't gonna take a bullet for Team Biden.
In any event, I doubt "the military" would be any more useful in a civil war than "right wing militias." States aren't "red and blue" so much as they are "blue cities, purple suburbs, and red rural areas." What are they going to do, nuke Wyoming? Go door to door in the 'burbs and arrest people with Trump lawn signs? The US military has proven to be a complete failure at non-linear war as proven by Iraq, Afghanistan, and other attempts at fighting "right wing militias" IRL.
Liberals continually can't imagine that average Americans are not extremist militia members (the militia idiots already have their guns).
And of course the obligatory RUSSIA!
In case you couldn't guess, this is what Mike Selinker looks like:
You can tell this guy knows fuck all about America just by looking at his deeply untrustworthy face and realizing he hasn't stepped outside for thirty years. His musings on Russia and China are also very confused. China went through a civil war "along the Russian model?" Uh, no, you stupid cave goblin, why don't you go back to something more your depth, such as simulating Napoleonic battles by rolling dice? The only Russian models we'll be seeing are the ones invited to our victory party in November.
Floridaman
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Besides in coups that work, they are led by colonels typically because unlike generals they actually have direct command of troops.Building off the "transition integrity project" which has been discussed here before, here's some leftist war porn written by some nerd who makes board games, apparently:
https://medium.com/@...rs-cf5b2e980099
It's as dumb as you might imagine. He lays out a battle between "right wing militias," which he sincerely seems to think are a threat instead of obese LARPers that show up with open carry weapons and promptly get dispersed by the police without firing a shot. Likewise, this whopper is pure fantasy:
No, it hasn't. Some butthurt seat-warmers like Mattis wrote a letter once, mostly because they were pissed Trump hasn't been enthusiastic about Forever War and jeopardizing their future Boeing board of directors positions. The military itself is split politically, just like the rest of the country.
What generals are those? The US hasn't won a war since 1945, and we used to have way harder guys. The modern military is filled by AA mediocrities, logistics/cafeteria worker slobs, paper-pushers, Chair Force drone commandos, and Navy seawomen who get pregnant so they don't have to deploy (or else accidentally ram their ships into fishing boats in the South China Sea). The vast majority of special forces and active combat guys aren't gonna take a bullet for Team Biden.
In any event, I doubt "the military" would be any more useful in a civil war than "right wing militias." States aren't "red and blue" so much as they are "blue cities, purple suburbs, and red rural areas." What are they going to do, nuke Wyoming? Go door to door in the 'burbs and arrest people with Trump lawn signs? The US military has proven to be a complete failure at non-linear war as proven by Iraq, Afghanistan, and other attempts at fighting "right wing militias" IRL.
Liberals continually can't imagine that average Americans are not extremist militia members (the militia idiots already have their guns).
And of course the obligatory RUSSIA!
In case you couldn't guess, this is what Mike Selinker looks like:
You can tell this guy knows fuck all about America just by looking at his deeply untrustworthy face and realizing he hasn't stepped outside for thirty years. His musings on Russia and China are also very confused. China went through a civil war "along the Russian model?" Uh, no, you stupid cave goblin, why don't you go back to something more your depth, such as simulating Napoleonic battles by rolling dice? The only Russian models we'll be seeing are the ones invited to our victory party in November.
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Wait what? China’s civil war and Russia’s civil war were very different in their internal dynamics, time scales and structures.
But anyway yeah, that’s one of the most retarded articles I’d seen in a while.
But anyway yeah, that’s one of the most retarded articles I’d seen in a while.
Floridaman
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No, no, they were both civil wars in which the righteous (communists) crushed the evil wrong thinkers, see they are totally the same model./left.
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Colonels often have the most to gain because they occupy a space in the hierarchy that’s in between the lower ranks and grunts, and the upper brass. Coups aren’t led by eighty year old generals and 35 year old Captains. The former are satisfied with their positions and the latter don’t have the sort of authority or closeness to power to actually make a go of it.
That’s what I figured he meant. But it’s still fucking retarded.
I mean, that works.
It all depends on the military structure of said country. A lot of countries have a lot of officers and a lot of basic enlisted but not a lot of NCOs. The US has more enlisted and NCOs then officers, forming a larger chain but also a stronger one
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Well in a lot of countries there aren’t(and weren’t) many NCOs, just grunts and Generals, with a very small number of colonels and other higher level officers.
Meaning that an ambitious or dissatisfied Colonel could rally the rank and file against either the generals or civilian government.
That is the reason it is very hard to have the US military stage a coup