General Gaming Thread

[TheRejectionist]

Most of the game had it.

But my problem is that there aren't any real threats and the humans are way too paranoid about each other to feel real. I mean seriously, who shoots first and asks questions never when the person is just kinda... walking around somewhere? Away from their own base at that!

Because, on that Station, everyone was going fucking loony and acting like bastards to survive. It literally was a "kill or be killed" situation for them.

You wandering away from their little base, for example? Yeah, you could've planted a bomb, or a trap somewhere, or tainted their supplies so you can steal the rest when they're dead or being picked off by the alien.

And given what we see in-game, their paranoia and aggression are pretty much justified.

As for the slow start... Yeah, it is a bit slow, but at least it wasn't as slow as Knights of the Old Republic with the Taris segment (seriously, people have made mods with pre-set options that you'd make throughout the prologue to just start at Dantooine; same deal with KotOR II and Peragus!).

After COVID I am not surprised of what panicked people can do so for me it is realistic how those (fictional 3D) crewmen reacted in the game.

 

[Vyor]

Bruh, did you even play the game or even watch a playthrough?

There's an unseen alien monster literally picking people off one by one. It can't be stopped. Nothing tried has been effective, and the people meant to be protecting them are ineffective at best (Colonial Marshals), actually becoming a threat itself as survivalism kicks in (Seegson Security). Survivors are going crazy trying to survive other survivors. Friends turn on friends. Friends are disappearing. Supplies are running out. There's nowhere safe.

And to top it all off, the station itself is breaking down, and it's against them via Apollo and the Working Joes (and after Amanda flushes an alien into the nearby gas giant, they become actively instead of passively hostile).

Yeah, I can easily understand why things are going to shit and why survivors are so damn suspicious and aggressive.

Axel was right.

So a fucking alien is attacking people and picking them off one by one so they...

Split up.

 

[Husky_Khan]

It was set up well enough for the game. I have issues with the plot setup as well with that seeming forces anarchy but it didn't detract from enjoying the game to any real degree for me.

I think there's just some people who have to nitpick things that don't completely confirm to their expectations, storytelling and atmosphere be damned.

 

[Vyor]

It was set up well enough for the game. I have issues with the plot setup as well with that seeming forces anarchy but it didn't detract from enjoying the game to any real degree for me.

I think there's just some people who have to nitpick things that don't completely confirm to their expectations, storytelling and atmosphere be damned.

The beginning literally put an insomniac that I was streaming to on discord into a comatose state.

 

[Husky_Khan]

The beginning literally put an insomniac that I was streaming to on discord into a comatose state.

Wow. That must be why the game is being talked about years later. It's one of those it's so bad it's unforgettably bad type of games.

 

[Vyor]

Wow. That must be why the game is being talked about years later. It's one of those it's so bad it's unforgettably bad type of games.

It was the best Alien game to have released since Aliens: Infestation in 2011 and comes right after the shitshow that was Colonial marines. It was also released at a time when the major horror franchises, Resident Evil and Silent Hill, were taking the biggest dumps ever. Hell, Dead Space 3 came out the year before and was also a shitshow, so there were no even halfway mediocre horror games around at the time.

That is why it got praised, not because it was some great game but because it was good enough for a starving market.

 

[Husky_Khan]

It was the best Alien game to have released since Aliens: Infestation in 2011 and comes right after the shitshow that was Colonial marines. It was also released at a time when the major horror franchises, Resident Evil and Silent Hill, were taking the biggest dumps ever. Hell, Dead Space 3 came out the year before and was also a shitshow, so there were no even halfway mediocre horror games around at the time.

That is why it got praised, not because it was some great game but because it was good enough for a starving market.

People are still playing and streaming the game now.

And it came out the same month as Evil Within and The Last of Us. I know that as much...

Actually lemme just look it up. PT came out then, the first beta for The Forest, Dying Light, Daylight, and the DLC Sequel to Outlast, Whistleblower.

And my bad, The Last of Us came out in 2013, not 2014. The DLC for TLOU came out in 2014 though.

2014 was great for horror games, especially random original non-major title stuff.

We get it, you don't like the story of the game. You don't need to try and get so hard into convincing everyone that somehow Creative Assembly created a complete stinker that really wasn't popular because Resident Evil 30 didn't come out. I'm sorry that you cured one of your fans of insomnia, that must've been deeply troubling.

 

[TheRejectionist]

People are still playing and streaming the game now.

And it came out the same month as Evil Within and The Last of Us. I know that as much...

Actually lemme just look it up. PT came out then, the first beta for The Forest, Dying Light, Daylight, and the DLC Sequel to Outlast, Whistleblower.

And my bad, The Last of Us came out in 2013, not 2014. The DLC for TLOU came out in 2014 though.

2014 was great for horror games, especially random original non-major title stuff.

We get it, you don't like the story of the game. You don't need to try and get so hard into convincing everyone that somehow Creative Assembly created a complete stinker that really wasn't popular because Resident Evil 30 didn't come out. I'm sorry that you cured one of your fans of insomnia, that must've been deeply troubling.

Speaking of shitshows and Last of Us, is the PC port still a miserable wreck for that game?

 

[Husky_Khan]

Speaking of shitshows and Last of Us, is the PC port still a miserable wreck for that game?

I never played The Last of Us because of that... and because I'm a trash spore with myconid opinions.

 

[Vyor]

People are still playing and streaming the game now.

And it came out the same month as Evil Within and The Last of Us. I know that as much...

Actually lemme just look it up. PT came out then, the first beta for The Forest, Dying Light, Daylight, and the DLC Sequel to Outlast, Whistleblower.

And my bad, The Last of Us came out in 2013, not 2014. The DLC for TLOU came out in 2014 though.

2014 was great for horror games, especially random original non-major title stuff.

We get it, you don't like the story of the game. You don't need to try and get so hard into convincing everyone that somehow Creative Assembly created a complete stinker that really wasn't popular because Resident Evil 30 didn't come out. I'm sorry that you cured one of your fans of insomnia, that must've been deeply troubling.

The Last of Us has the same issue RE5 and 6 have: they're shitty action games, not horror games.

I'll give you Evil Within and PT... which never came out and was a free demo that was removed from PSN rather quickly. Dying Light is another action game... The Forest is minecraft but zombies... Daylight is literally just that old Slenderman game... and Outlast is so, so fucking bad. You can see the fucking LOD cutoff and all of the reflections on the ground are the same! No matter what room you're in, it's always reflecting the same room!

I think you need to go back and replay Isolation's first hour or two.

 

[Husky_Khan]

The Last of Us has the same issue RE5 and 6 have: they're shitty action games, not horror games.

I'll give you Evil Within and PT... which never came out and was a free demo that was removed from PSN rather quickly. Dying Light is another action game... The Forest is minecraft but zombies... Daylight is literally just that old Slenderman game... and Outlast is so, so fucking bad. You can see the fucking LOD cutoff and all of the reflections on the ground are the same! No matter what room you're in, it's always reflecting the same room!

I think you need to go back and replay Isolation's first hour or two.

The Last of Us is shitty. Outlast was so fucking bad because of this graphical quirk no one cares about. Alien Isolation puts insomniacs to sleep. The Forest is Minecraft but zombies blah blah etc etc.

So like I said... my first statement about you and your taste in games is true in that there's just some people who just nitpick things to death because it doesn't conform to their expectations.

Your obviously entitled to your opinion but don't act like it's an outlier like I stated already. You're just getting caught up on random bits of whatever game to decry the rest of it regardless of anything to the contrary.

I don't like the first hour of this game... the reflections of that game make it so fucking bad.

The only thing this discussion established is that it's not just with Alien Isolation and thus just an exception but numerous games apparently. Congratulations on being a contrarian.

 

[Vyor]

The Last of Us is shitty.

Yes.

Outlast was so fucking bad because of this graphical quirk no one cares about.

I literally so an obstacle blink out of existence by walking backwards and then blink back into existence by walking forward. This was repeatable.

It's also heavily RNG dependent in certain sections, so there's that.

Alien Isolation puts insomniacs to sleep.

Not to sleep, just mostly asleep.

The Forest is Minecraft but zombies blah blah etc etc.

It objectively is. It's a "survival horror sandbox game with crafting and building mechanics"

 

[Husky_Khan]

Yes.

No.

I literally so an obstacle blink out of existence by walking backwards and then blink back into existence by walking forward. This was repeatable. It's also heavily RNG dependent in certain sections, so there's that.

So like I said... my first statement about you and your taste in games is true in that there's just some people who just nitpick things to death because it doesn't conform to their expectations.

Not to sleep, just mostly asleep.

Sorry your streams are boring. Glad they found a way to cope.

It objectively is. It's a "survival horror sandbox game with crafting and building mechanics"

You said it's Minecraft. You didn't say it's a "survival horror sandbox game with crafting and building mechanics."

 

[Vyor]

No.

What makes it a good game then? Is it the generic 3rd person cover shooting?

So like I said... my first statement about you and your taste in games is true in that there's just some people who just nitpick things to death because it doesn't conform to their expectations.

That... isn't nitpicking. That's a "how the fuck did they fuck up this bad".

Sorry your streams are boring. Glad they found a way to cope.

The other person in the VC was laughing and commenting as I explained the game, how it works, why it fails, and the like.

Insomnia dude had just been awake for 40 hours.

You said it's Minecraft. You didn't say it's a "survival horror sandbox game with crafting and building mechanics."

... it's just a shitty game that backpacked off the minecraft craze that was happening at the time. Obviously it isn't the exact same, they'd have gotten sued for that, but it's the same as a dozen other games that all released at that time.

 

[Husky_Khan]

What makes it a good game then? Is it the generic 3rd person cover shooting?

After ten years it's manifestly obvious but pointing out what is readily available to you would be an exercise in futility because you already made your mind up.

That... isn't nitpicking. That's a "how the fuck did they fuck up this bad".

No it's nitpicking. Your sounding autistic.

The other person in the VC was laughing and commenting as I explained the game, how it works, why it fails, and the like.

Insomnia dude had just been awake for 40 hours.

Uh huh?

... it's just a shitty game that backpacked off the minecraft craze that was happening at the time. Obviously it isn't the exact same, they'd have gotten sued for that, but it's the same as a dozen other games that all released at that time.

Considering your metric for gauging "generic third person cover shooters" and unilaterally stating no horror games came out in 2014 this "shitty game like a dozen other games released at the same time" looks like another exercise in futility only in this case you are working backwards to cover up your myopia and contrarianism.

So like I stated originally... there's just some people who just nitpick things to death because it doesn't conform to their expectations.

 

[Vyor]

Or maybe you just can't stand games from your childhood being called out for what they are?

 

[Husky_Khan]

Or maybe you just can't stand games from your childhood being called out for what they are?

LoL. How'd you come to that conclusion?

Yeah you got me. The games I just said I've never played and had to look up the release year for are very beloved to my childhood.



I'm going off what seems to be mostly popular consensus, not some random nitpicker whose tastes are obvious to the contrary of most normal people but trying to pass them off as objectively correct.

Feel free to keep whinging about how no Horror games were released in 2014, TLOU is generic shit, The Forest is Minecraft shit and indifferent from twelve other games, Outlast is shit because poor reflections, Alien Isolation is shite because your streams are boring and I'm sure you have random ass reasons after the fact for fifty other popular games you probably decry as shite for nitpicky or nebulous reasons.

Which like I said before is fine. But so is pointing that out. Just because you don't like many popular and good games doesn't make them objectively shit to everyone like you've stated. Sorry.

 

[Vyor]

popular consensus

Popular consensus says 50 Shades of Gray is good.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Popular consensus says 50 Shades of Gray is good.

Popular consensus says it's popular, not good.

Keep in mind this tangent started with me agreeing with you on Alien Isolations story problems and then you making a claim that a main reason for almost a decade of popularity is because it came out in 2014 when no other horror games did.

And when I stated contrary and listed over a half dozen horror games that after almost a decade were instantly recognizable you stated most of those games are shit too. The fact there's multiple popular well received shitty horror games that came out at the same time that apparently just elevated each other somehow is a hilarious hypothesis.

 

[Bear Ribs]

So, has anyone seen the kerfluffle over Unity? It seems they're introducing Microtransactions... no not on users, on the developers. Unity's new pricing plan is to charge developers every time a person downloads the game. No, not buys it, downloads. So if you bought it, played through, and then uninstalled, they get charged again if you decide to revisit it a year later. Also people have already found lines of code that will tattle on unauthorized installs, so if you pirate the game, the studio will still get charged for the download by Unity.

Unity’s plans to charge per game install has developers begging gamers not to download their games

Unity faced internal pushback for the controversial decision

www.techradar.com

The memes are already... abundant.