Former caterer gets delusional, declares war on Russia





Looks like Wagner and the Russian MoD are coming to open blows, if the Russian armed forces fired missiles into a Wagner camp.

Another step towards the Russian Civil War that will occur when Russian forces are removed from Ukraine's soil.

Edit: Looks like Wagner is declaring war against the Russian MoD now:
 






Russia as a 'Federation' is done; now the question is, who is going to win the Russian Civil War, and what 'new' nations will rise from the ashes.
 






Russia as a 'Federation' is done; now the question is, who is going to win the Russian Civil War, and what 'new' nations will rise from the ashes.


I'm going to wait and see more because people have said russia is done...alot in human history but like a horror movie monster the country keeps rising from its grave.
 
I'm going to wait and see more because people have said russia is done...alot in human history but like a horror movie monster the country keeps rising from its grave.
Oh, it's not 'done' yet, the Russian factions are just now openly shelling and shooting their own side, instead of Ukraine's forces.

Hearing the Russian Nat'l Guard also is getting stood up around Moscow and other places, so it seems Prigozihn is now officially an enemy of the Kremlin/Putin, but Wagner is still embedded with Russian troops.

I think we are looking at something close to how the Russian's broke in WW1, and ended up having an internal revolution while the rest of Europe wrapped up WW1.

Ukraine is blowing the logistics routes, bridges, and nodes of the Russian forces in Crimea and near Kherson, as well as the bases feeding ammo to the troops defending near Zaporiziha(?) where Ukraine has been pushing on several axis's.

Remember the way Ukraine starved the Russian forces near Kherson of ammo as they fought their way south to the bank of the Dnirpo by repeatedly blowing ammo dumps and truck parks? That's what the plan seems to be now, with the current Ukrainian pushes meant to fix Russian forces in place as their logistics are blown up behind them, keeping them from being able to move to other areas to help the lines. The Brit Storm Shadow Cruise Missiles are doing serious work, and he UK seems to be very willing to keep supplying them to Ukraine; doesn't matter how many men Russia can field, if they regularly are getting hundreds of men kill a hundred miles behind the lines before they even reach the front, or they have no ammo to speak of getting to them at the front.

Blowing the Russian logistics apart before fall arrives can make it far harder for Russia to sustain their troops on the front line through another winter, and the Russian's defeat all that much faster.

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The FSB is openly saying it now.
 
True, but this is a significant escalation, as Wagner had previously accused Moscow leaders of undermining and under supplying them, but not outright attacking them.
 
True, but this is a significant escalation, as Wagner had previously accused Moscow leaders of undermining and under supplying them, but not outright attacking them.

Undersupplying them? What are you talking about? It looks like Shoigu just delivered Wagner a large amount of munitions.

 
'Fortress' Protocols Activating in Moscow and other Russian cities, meant to repel an external attack, also reported by Russian Media.



Rostov



Russian Administration Reportedly Believes that this Missile Attack Aftermath shown by Wagner PMC was staged and had some indication about this Prigozhin plot before.



Girkin (rival and critic of Prigozhin) and others believe it a fabrication as well.



A Surovikin nuance

 



Wonder what might be behind this, if true…

:unsure:


No, this is Russian internal politics doing it's usual thing when Moscow leadership does something monumentally stupid (invading Ukraine), and then bungling it to the tune of tens of thousands of lives wasted because no one can pass bad news up the chain and Putin barely talks to anyone who may bring him bad news.

Wagner's head is pissed because the Russian MoD was trying to force his PMC to sign on as official Russian armed forces, which he wasn't going to do, and now Putin/Shoigu decided to try to get rid of Wagner via missile strikes and outright purges, in the middle of combat operations in Ukraine.

The CIA probably are just sitting back with a lot of popcorn and placing bets on how this plays out, as the Russian's are doing fine collapsing on their own.
 
I'm just posting links as I see them. Hard to say what's actually going on right now, so judge for yourself.




















https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1672363023627956224


https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1672352313091178496


Last two links state a column of about 400 vehicles left Millervo and are headed for Moscow. A Wagner convoy (reputedly a different one) supposedly also enroute to Moscow is reported to have passed the first "checkpoint". No way of verifying yet.

Also "Special Operations Forces (SSO) commanded by Major General Valery Flustikov have taken over control of the Ministry of Defence headquarters on Frunzenskaya in Moscow. Right now, there's no way of knowing whose side he is really on: Shoigu or Prigozhin. Probably "wait & see.""
 
Yes I'm waiting to see media of things blowing up or other RvR content. You can't have a coup exclusively consisting of people talking on Telegram and Twitter... Probably.

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Or I can just wait fifteen minutes for nebulous video of weapons fire in Rostov!







Rostov being a main city for supplying the Russian military operation in Ukraine since it is mostly focused on the Donbass and southern Ukrainian fronts now. If Wagner is interfering with operations there, it would make the Special Military Operation in Ukraine rather more difficult to prosecute.
 
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No, this is Russian internal politics doing it's usual thing when Moscow leadership does something monumentally stupid (invading Ukraine), and then bungling it to the tune of tens of thousands of lives wasted because no one can pass bad news up the chain and Putin barely talks to anyone who may bring him bad news.

Wagner's head is pissed because the Russian MoD was trying to force his PMC to sign on as official Russian armed forces, which he wasn't going to do, and now Putin/Shoigu decided to try to get rid of Wagner via missile strikes and outright purges, in the middle of combat operations in Ukraine.

The CIA probably are just sitting back with a lot of popcorn and placing bets on how this plays out, as the Russian's are doing fine collapsing on their own.
Regardless, it's not something I would have expected to happen; Russia just keeps finding new ways to screw things up for themselves.
 
Regardless, it's not something I would have expected to happen; Russia just keeps finding new ways to screw things up for themselves.
Cultural alcoholism for generations, going back into the times of the tsars and even Mongol invasions.

Always remember Russia is a nation of angry drunks and has been since long before Marx was even born.
 
Can anybody here confirm whether this tweet twitter is real or not below?



If this was true, Russian Intel didn't pick-up on it???
This was posted already on the Russian Invasion thread. Sorry for duplicating a post.
 

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