Former caterer gets delusional, declares war on Russia
- Thread starter Husky_Khan
- Start date
strunkenwhite
Well-known member
That would have been a Wagner the Dog scenario.
Tiamat
I've seen the future...
Road closures and stopped traffic in Voronezh, Northeast of Belgorod.
Reported video of Wagner columns passing by Rostov, Russian National Guard letting them roll by apparently.
Ka-52, Mi-28 and Mi-8 Helicopters Have Been Seen Circling Over Rostov
Reported video of Wagner columns passing by Rostov, Russian National Guard letting them roll by apparently.
Ka-52, Mi-28 and Mi-8 Helicopters Have Been Seen Circling Over Rostov
This seems to be a mostly peaceful way of bypassing a roadblock.
Poor Russian Law Enforcement/Civil Authorities... forgetting they can just drive around the city buses blocking the road. National Guard OMON Special Purpose Troops just gawking at them driving by.
They're unstoppable... bypassing every line of defense regardless of depth!
EDIT:
Outside the Southern Military District HQ. Looks like Wagner Units are outside of it. But those police vehicles blocking their way look pretty imposing.
Looks like they intend to seize the building.
Lots of pictures and videos coming out now. Its morning in Russia and there's loads of civilians just standing around not looking too perturbed and filming everything on their cell phones.
EDIT: EDIT:
Another government building being peacefully seized.
Poor Russian Law Enforcement/Civil Authorities... forgetting they can just drive around the city buses blocking the road. National Guard OMON Special Purpose Troops just gawking at them driving by.
They're unstoppable... bypassing every line of defense regardless of depth!
EDIT:
Outside the Southern Military District HQ. Looks like Wagner Units are outside of it. But those police vehicles blocking their way look pretty imposing.
Looks like they intend to seize the building.
Lots of pictures and videos coming out now. Its morning in Russia and there's loads of civilians just standing around not looking too perturbed and filming everything on their cell phones.
EDIT: EDIT:
Another government building being peacefully seized.
Last edited:
bintananth
behind a desk
Just came across this ...
If it's accurate ... wow.
If it's accurate ... wow.
Where would he fly to though?
And whose side would he be on in this Civil War? Putins or Putins?
Igor Sushko kinda reports a lot of things rapidly. But Voronezh has been closing roads and doing their 'Fortress' protocol as well. It's likely from Wagner forces coming up from Belgorod or something as opposed to a 'halfway point' between Rostov and Moscow if that's what Igor is implying.
I wonder what the Russian forces on the front line have heard.
And what does Putin have in the interior that he can use to stop Wagner? Will that action wait till Moscow? Will Putin drop a tacnuke on Wagner?
And what does Putin have in the interior that he can use to stop Wagner? Will that action wait till Moscow? Will Putin drop a tacnuke on Wagner?
The president has the power because congress can take to long to meet and the president can act now.
As for the RvR.
LETS FUCKING GO!
A possibility. You know this as much as I do.
Tiamat
I've seen the future...
Dunno, though it seems his aircraft reportedly has now left Turkey, destination as of yet unknown.
It's a big question isn't it. As for what Putin has in the interior? Rosgvardia, also some unspecified Spetsnaz units, dunno what else. The problem is the bulk of his force is deployed at the Ukrainian fronts. The same front that is, or was being supplied through Rostov-on-Don that is now being reportedly seized/taken over by Wagner.
Well he has the Rosgvardia/National Guard and the Ministry of Interior/FSB/Border Troops. He can also use a significant portion of the Russian Military... the shitty conscripted part. So that's thousands of troops there. I'm sure some of them can operate tanks and artillery etc... hopefully. Plus other police and law enforcement units. Wagner with its heavy units and veteran soldiers could probably hilariously roll over all of them in anything resembling an easy fight.
BUT there is still the Russian Air Force. That would likely put a big damper on any several hundred mile long roadbound advances onto Moscow. I don't think Wagner has long range air defense... or like... massed artillery... or their own munitions supply chain beyond what they can "find."
So the caterer who decided to start a mercenary company called Wagner (which has been disposing of Russian prisoners in Ukrainian cities) came up with the bright idea of declaring that he was marching his prisoners on Moscow to remove the Russian Secretary of Defense because The Corrupt Incompetent (Shoigu) was being appropriately Russian in his approach to friendly fire.
www.politico.eu
Anyone who claims to have any real facts on what is actually going on (especially tactically speaking) is probably lying through their teeth.
Putin in crisis: Wagner chief Prigozhin declares war on Russian military leadership
Russia’s FSB security service opens criminal case against mercenary boss, as he vows to steamroll over anyone who gets in his way.
www.politico.eu
Anyone who claims to have any real facts on what is actually going on (especially tactically speaking) is probably lying through their teeth.
No, not really. The US would not escalate to nuclear war if Russia used tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine against Ukrainian forces. Especially not with any kind of immediacy.
Even a limited nuclear attack on a NATO member wouldn't get immediate US nuclear retaliation. The only thing that would get the US to go nuclear very quickly is a Russian nuclear attack on US territory. A tactical nuclear strike in Europe that killed US soldiers and/or was against NATO would get a nuclear response but it would be a much more limited one and done mostly for demonstration purposes.
When the chips are on the table, the US is not going to risk NYC over the battlefield use of tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine.
Putin's side most likely. Shoigu has been really incompetent and corrupt so him being "killed in the fighting" to give Putin the excuse to replace him isn't outside the realm of possibility.
Prigozhin doesn't really have any allies with substantial intelligence, military, or political clout. Flustikov is unlikely to back him in a coup against Putin and that is ultimately what this is, whatever Prigo claims.
Prigo is a dead man, the FSB won't let him ascend to the throne and takeover by open coup isn't something that any theoretical Putin successor can be seen to allow to prosper.
King Arts
Well-known member
And?
It’s still unconstitutional you seem to think that the constitution is this god document that tells you the best way to run a nation in all ways and it’s efficient and infallible. It’s not by being a republic instead of a dictatorship we already have inefficiency, the constitution should stop soldiers and the president from deciding to go fight someone without congress accepting it.
So you are saying that the US military should wait for what could be weeks while we are getting attacked?
King Arts
Well-known member
Yes or you should change your constitution. You can defend yourself from attacks obviously you just can’t attack your enemies. You can’t keep jerking off the constitution and say you believe in it if you are doing something that goes against it.
So...my nation should not be able to take advantage of a situation and wait for congress and allow our enemies to build up properly