Steven Crowder takes a stand against Conservative networks

Husky_Khan

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A THREE HOUR PLUS Reaction video? It's like twice as long as Crowder's First Video and the Boring Response combined. 😭

*checks*

OMG then he released another two hour video a day later! 😳😆

I thought his 60-90 minute response videos to random dudes who practice with nunchucks, small Facebook Archery groups who were mean to him and some other rando YouTuber calling him a 'HEMA Nerd' were already ridiculously bloviated videos. But five hours on a contract. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Inflation is hitting everyone hard. Gotta chase those views across your... oh he has three channels now. For some reason I assumed Knights Watch was another YouTuber. You always hear him babble about other channels but it's kinda in one ear, out the other when your watching him waffle on about something while cleaning the house.
 
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Megadeath

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Dude, with some of the wall of text posts you've been making in this thread, you really shouldn't be complaining about anyone else being long-winded. :sneaky:
I dunno... He's generally summed things up in a way that at most takes (most of us) only a couple minutes to read. Spending 5 hours on it seems like a slightly different kettle of fish than taking the time to post more than a two sentence hot take response.
 

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Timcast said:
"I wasn't treated as talent, I was kinda treated like more of a nine to five employee," he said, clarifying he didn't mind being a "24-hour" employee.

"For somebody who always uses the term 'moving the goal posts,' that's all it became."

The comedian provided Malice with samples of his contract, including a strict tardy policy which reportedly only applied to Landau.

"Contractor agrees that if he arrives to work more than 5 minutes late, he is considered to be in breach of Section 1 and must leave Company Premises and will not be compensated for the day the breach occurred," reads the contract according to Landau.

Along with the 5-minute tardy policy, Crowder was also contractually obligated to promote the fellow comedians' shows "once a week at a time and in a medium of Company's discretion."

Landau alleged Crowder did not uphold his agreement and the comedian subsequently lost money from ticket sales.

Among strict tardy policies and failed contractual agreements, Landau claimed one of Crowder's contractual agreements included relocating his family to Dallas, Texas, where Louder With Crowder's studio is located.

"Whatever he has, and whatever he's going through, I think he was bullied at some point in his life," Landeau said of Crowder. "He's become the bully and he doesn't realize it."

"He's got a lot of yes men around him, and I really do love his staff and I love working with them, but I think they are kind of just a little bit intimidated at this point to keep their own job," he continued, conceding he felt the same way during his employment.

"There is part of him that I know is good, I've met that person, but then he does stuff behind your back that's like this and you're like, 'Why are you doing this for power?'" Landau said.

It's like he's treating his talent like Wage Slaves or something. What about the next up and coming comedian who needs exposure and instead is trapped by these onerous contracts that the Employer doesn't even honor? :cry:


I thought Crowder was different. 😞
 
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Lord Sovereign

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Not sure if this is the right place to put it, but as this is a journalism thread I suppose it makes sense.

Has anyone seen that footage of Steven Crowder with his wife? The way he talks to her is frankly disturbing and almost like something out of an Andrew Tate video.
 

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Not sure if this is the right place to put it, but as this is a journalism thread I suppose it makes sense.

Has anyone seen that footage of Steven Crowder with his wife? The way he talks to her is frankly disturbing and almost like something out of an Andrew Tate video.
He is definitely being an asshole in the vid. that said Candace and Yasher both make blatent lies about the story as well. it looks like a messy divorce and I think that the best thing to do is not give it too much attention or weight.
 

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Not sure if this is the right place to put it, but as this is a journalism thread I suppose it makes sense.

Has anyone seen that footage of Steven Crowder with his wife? The way he talks to her is frankly disturbing and almost like something out of an Andrew Tate video.

If what Yashar Ali's blog post says is true that his wifes lawyers didn't want any of this publicized and Steven made it public after over a year of convincing them to be quiet about it, then it's likely Steven's fault for bringing it into the public. As a public figure with a large platform, he knows he has a voice unlike his wife who is a private citizen so he'd have an advantage in giving his side of the story. Keeping in mind, again if the blog post is true, Steven supposedly retained a lawyer before she did, before the birth of their twins. I wouldn't want to wish anyone to be in his (ex) wifes position now. He's obviously had months and months to prepare for when this finally went public.

If there's one thing that's really been revealed about Steven Crowder (especially with the recent revelations/allegations from his Comic sidekick Dave Landau), it's about how extremely narcissistic and yet media savvy he is. Whether it was the Wife, or the Wifes family that disclosed this, you better believe Steven Crowder likely has a backup plan to downplay or manipulate the situation to minimize the fallout on him and his career. I think he would gladly tear her and her side family apart in the open if given the opportunity to, and by going to Yashar Ali or whatever, that's all the motivation that Crowder needs. Dudes probably recorded everything.
 
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Blasterbot

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If what Yashar Ali's blog post says is true that his wifes lawyers didn't want any of this publicized and Steven made it public after over a year of convincing them to be quiet about it, then it's likely Steven's fault for bringing it into the public. As a public figure with a large platform, he knows he has a voice unlike his wife who is a private citizen so he'd have an advantage in giving his side of the story.Keeping in mind, again if the blog post is true, Steven supposedly retained a lawyer before she did, before the birth of their twins. I wouldn't want to wish anyone to be in his (ex) wifes position now.
we Know several things were very deliberately framed in a misleading manner. They called the Surgery elective. Technically true since it was not an emergency procedure. it was however a very serious condition that was causing him pain in his day to day life and was slowly reducing his lung capacity to the point where it was hard for him to do his show. It also has a chance of getting bad enough that it would kill him. They also say that he got an attorney first. H. Crowder was the one that filed.

I agree that coming out and talking about the divorce was in poor taste. If I were conspiratorially minded I would say the only exception to that would be if he knew that video had been handed to "journalists" and this was his only shot at getting out in front of it. But since we know that the video was not cropped to show him in the worst possible light, wasn't handed to smear merchants by people who get paid money to ruin peoples lives, and those who spread it certainly weren't motivated by anything like spite and hatred. I would not possibly go there.

All in all there isn't a whole lot of context for the video. if that is how life is living with him on the regular yeah that is a very toxic relationship. If that is him a few day before surgery at his lowest and ugliest? still bad but also understandable. this is Dirty laundry that never needed to be aired in public.
 

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If what Yashar Ali's blog post says is true that his wifes lawyers didn't want any of this publicized and Steven made it public after over a year of convincing them to be quiet about it, then it's likely Steven's fault for bringing it into the public. As a public figure with a large platform, he knows he has a voice unlike his wife who is a private citizen so he'd have an advantage in giving his side of the story. Keeping in mind, again if the blog post is true, Steven supposedly retained a lawyer before she did, before the birth of their twins. I wouldn't want to wish anyone to be in his (ex) wifes position now. He's obviously had months and months to prepare for when this finally went public.

If there's one thing that's really been revealed about Steven Crowder (especially with the recent revelations/allegations from his Comic sidekick Dave Landau), it's about how extremely narcissistic and yet media savvy he is. Whether it was the Wife, or the Wifes family that disclosed this, you better believe Steven Crowder likely has a backup plan to downplay or manipulate the situation to minimize the fallout on him and his career. I think he would gladly tear her and her side family apart in the open if given the opportunity to, and by going to Yashar Ali or whatever, that's all the motivation that Crowder needs. Dudes probably recorded everything.

This kind of thing would explain why I started getting a kind of a 'forced' vibe from Crowder and found him less interesting about three or four years ago. Dunno if that's actually why or not, but not too long after Jared left the then much-smaller show, something seemed more staged about it, less genuine, with a few exceptions here and there.

It takes a certain amount of ego to be willing to make yourself into a public persona like Crowder did. I can see how that could lead towards outright narcissism, but honestly, I just don't care enough to look in enough detail to see if that's actually true or not.
 

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This kind of thing would explain why I started getting a kind of a 'forced' vibe from Crowder and found him less interesting about three or four years ago. Dunno if that's actually why or not, but not too long after Jared left the then much-smaller show, something seemed more staged about it, less genuine, with a few exceptions here and there.

It takes a certain amount of ego to be willing to make yourself into a public persona like Crowder did. I can see how that could lead towards outright narcissism, but honestly, I just don't care enough to look in enough detail to see if that's actually true or not.

Yeah I never paid much attention to Crowder until that Daily Wire/Crowder thing dominated the news cycle (and had a long thread here) a few months ago and all I got from that was Crowder just seemed to be a really PR savvy and a little narcissistic (from his recording of personal phone calls months after the issue) in how he managed to manipulate the Daily Wire (regardless of how they responded) into boosting him and his #StopTheBigCon thingamajig.

Just two days ago I bumped up that Daily Wire/Crowder feud thread with an article about how his former side comic Dave Landau went on Michael Malice's podcast and talked about how he locked up people with silly rules in his contracts, recorded every phone call and formed a cult of personality around himself and didn't honor his own contracted obligations etc and right after I posted that, I saw the Divorce thing come out and was like 'NOPE.' Not going to post about that.

But since it's being discussed here, I feel like it's going to turn out to be a similar situation. Crowder makes an opaque statement about a divorce which has been secret for over a year. If the Wife (or her family) responds then boom, he has a plan for that already to make her look like she was in the wrong (either make her look mentally ill or abusive or some other shit) because again, he apparently records everything. He probably has all of the text messages and e-mails and chatlogs and phone calls recorded, and probably video from the cloud as well as all of the legal documents from the divorce. He has a lot of power to manipulate the situation to his benefit for better or worse.

we Know several things were very deliberately framed in a misleading manner. They called the Surgery elective. Technically true since it was not an emergency procedure. it was however a very serious condition that was causing him pain in his day to day life and was slowly reducing his lung capacity to the point where it was hard for him to do his show. It also has a chance of getting bad enough that it would kill him. They also say that he got an attorney first. H. Crowder was the one that filed.

Yeah the Wifes family calling it an elective surgery in their statement was a petty move. I remember reading about how serious the issue was and I highly doubt Crowder is that narcissistic to get elective surgery just so he can avoid seeing the birth of his children.

I agree that coming out and talking about the divorce was in poor taste. If I were conspiratorially minded I would say the only exception to that would be if he knew that video had been handed to "journalists" and this was his only shot at getting out in front of it. But since we know that the video was not cropped to show him in the worst possible light, wasn't handed to smear merchants by people who get paid money to ruin peoples lives, and those who spread it certainly weren't motivated by anything like spite and hatred. I would not possibly go there.

The other thing was that it was apparently an open secret. Crowder in his first video alleged that Candance Owens knew and I know Mike Cernovich said he knew. I'm assuming lots of people in Conservative spaces knew about this but to their credit kept their mouths shut.

All in all there isn't a whole lot of context for the video. if that is how life is living with him on the regular yeah that is a very toxic relationship. If that is him a few day before surgery at his lowest and ugliest? still bad but also understandable. this is Dirty laundry that never needed to be aired in public.

Yeah and the only way some people will get validation or substantiation of whether there was emotional abuse or not is by airing more "evidence" for better or worse which would be absolutely terrible I think for almost everyone involved, except maybe Steven since all parties admitted there was no physical abuse and he has a large and loyal following built up over the years to support him. Plus I'm sure he has more receipts than the Wifes family does. He filed first apparently and again, has had months to prepare for this, and already allegedly habitually records everything. This is going to be super ugly if it gains more traction and it's going to bring out the worst fans/stans on both sides of the argument, even worse than his contract dispute with Daily Wire.
 

Blasterbot

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Crowder does seem to be a diva, overly controlling, and narcissistic. I could see that coming out in his personal relations as well as at work. I could even believe that people knew in conservative spaces that the divorce was going on. This never needed to happen in public. it is gonna be ugly. Landau lied about the plugs. they used them as stingers just about every episode that I can remember. (admittedly I have been very on-off with watching crowder). Yassar and Candace are lying about the condition he had and who filed. there is a reason no one smarter than her at DW went for this.
 

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Crowder does seem to be a diva, overly controlling, and narcissistic. I could see that coming out in his personal relations as well as at work. I could even believe that people knew in conservative spaces that the divorce was going on. This never needed to happen in public. it is gonna be ugly. Landau lied about the plugs. they used them as stingers just about every episode that I can remember. (admittedly I have been very on-off with watching crowder). Yassar and Candace are lying about the condition he had and who filed. there is a reason no one smarter than her at DW went for this.

Candace Owens is definitely the weakest link of the Daily Wire bunch and tbh I think Crowder knows that too (and is why he singled her out whilst publicizing the divorce). And I don't think it's because she's "dumb" but because she's more unfiltered. I never watched much of her stuff but I saw her on Joe Rogan and she just seems to fire from the hip.
 

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Crowder continues to be scummy. Yes, the former employer is Crowder, the person speaking was formerly known as Not Gay Jared.
 

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Crowder is a sue happy scumbag, according to former employee stuck under NDA and intimidation via lawyer.


Also, btw, the Christ is King stuff is very dumb. Some people are quite obviously using it to be a dick, and apparently noticing it is somehow anti-Christian? It's quite obvious that there's ways to say Christ is King where the context can make it an awful statement (say, quote tweeting an attack on a synagogue), so it's no surprise that there's ways to say it that can be mean but less awful. This isn't just true for "Christ is King", but any combo of words, you can find a context to make them bad.

I mean, whole innocent phrases can be corrupted. Take "Black lives matter". Without the context of the movement, a totally correct phrase. But when you add context, well... it's marxist and racist.
 
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Here is some more info with court documents and the like to help understand why Not Gay is doing this.
Shockingly, I don't trust Crowder on this, given his past habits of misrepresenting documents. And I don't have 30 minutes to spend listening to someone after I already listened to many lies from them (not you, tbc. Crowder). When there's this much smoke, there's fire.
 

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Shockingly, I don't trust Crowder on this, given his past habits of misrepresenting documents. And I don't have 30 minutes to spend listening to someone after I already listened to many lies from them (not you, tbc. Crowder). When there's this much smoke, there's fire.
But unlike Jerad, Gerald presents actual documents.
And it basically goes into the reason in which Jerad may be doing this now.

I honestly recommend it as he does present sources, and when they stop working posts them in the X feed.

I am saying this so you can be sure to remain unbiased by looking at both sides.
 

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But unlike Jerad, Gerald presents actual documents.
And it basically goes into the reason in which Jerad may be doing this now.

I honestly recommend it as he does present sources, and when they stop working posts them in the X feed.

I am saying this so you can be sure to remain unbiased by looking at both sides.
Those don't meet a threshold of what Crowder would need to show. Much of it doesn't even help his side. For example, one side's colluding is another side's friends helping friends in a shared tough situation.

Hiring PR? That's a no duh when you are up against someone with a massive platform and devoted audience. If she didn't, she'd be a moron. Crowder does the same, just gets it for free with his platform.

So your added info goes into my prior dueling hypothesis as barely an advantage for Crowder, which isn't enough to overturn Crowder's long history otherwise.


Though I will say, a mean words on a potato (with instructions on how to cook?) is a new one:
 

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