I'd just like to remind the Court that apparently Crowder owns the rights to the term "Not Gay Jared." Please refrain from using it here without his express written permission. 
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Huh...
Wonder if that's one of the four lawyers that showed up in the trial segment last summer?
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hehe... 'louder with Crowder' I see what they did there...
Steven Crowder divorce turns bitter - he demands full custody of twins
The couple's divorce took a bitter turn on Thursday as the commentator demanded full custody of their children in a fiery courtroom face-off.
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That part is where she disagreed with what she was getting, and its a custody battle.
I have no side to chose for that ine.
He was giving her a total of three months snd she wanted more.
that is why
He only talked about it because Owens brought it up....
He only started this all because of what she started.
Had she not wanted to destroy his PR, it would never have made the public till after the divorce.
He pays her currently 25k a month. Is paying for her entire legal team due to Texas law. 5 mil is what she and her lawyers (in the messages showed, she says this) agree is a good deal and potentially better then court.
That makes sense.
sadly, we only have the two videos of thier homelife to go off of, and a bunch if he said she said.
In the stuff provided by Crowders team, it showed that the laywer she hired (will state here, dont know if willing or unwillingly) entered doctored eevidence into court
While true, this is still leagues more then most get outside of the very wealthy.
She can easily live off 300k a year.
I can agree that we dont know everything and will have to wait. We just know what phoje records and court documents LwC have presented from thier filing of a lawsuite against NGJ.
perhaos both patties are in the wrong, but that sinfe he is the figure head of his company, he is getting the worse PR then she is.
Honestly, no clue.
This all happend.hehe... 'louder with Crowder' I see what they did there...
Steven Crowder divorce turns bitter - he demands full custody of twins
The couple's divorce took a bitter turn on Thursday as the commentator demanded full custody of their children in a fiery courtroom face-off.www.dailymail.co.uk
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what a surprise. it turns out the Divorce turns super ugly and everyone with an axe to grind is aiming to get their piece of Crowder. it is pretty fucking shit that he has to pay for the legal team suing him though. he offered more money than the court normally would give. offered a less even split of the kids time than the court normally would mandate. and the woman still is dragging in all this fucking bullshit? and jesus fuck going after the dog too? fucking put a bullet in him it would be kinder.
This is again, normal behavior in a big divorce with public figures.
So? Why does it matter if it's potentially better? She disagrees. I don't think you understand what a divorce is, or what's normal behavior for a divorce.
Again, irrelevant. Also, not what's being offered, instead a lump sum of $5M is being offered, which is a fair bit less than $300k/year.
The point of a divorce is to get as much custody, money, and stuff as possible. You are only scummy in the divorce if you screw with the kids heads or hide/waste/destroy stuff/money/evidence. These are not friends anymore. They owe each other literally nothing else at this point, they already view themselves as not married. Being nice in a divorce only works when you like each other, and if you like each other, you probably shouldn't be divorcing.
You are judging two enemies meeting in the field and complaining that one of them is trying to win. No duh, they should both try to win. Almost all of the scumminess already happened. There's relatively little bad behavior that goes on during a divorce because the standard has changed: there's no longer an expectation of support.
Yes according to Crowder it appears "the woman still is dragging in all this fucking bullshit and Jesus fuck going after the dog too." Why does the ex-wife need PR when Steven Crowder is already doing PR for her?
I agree it's bullshit that he has to pay for some of her legal fees. One of the benefits of a Stay At Home Mom is you can use them as unpaid employees in your business, feature in your marketing and production, and manage the household and child rearing while you absolutely owe them nothing financially whatsoever including in case of divorce.
It's really sad seeing these millionaires being taken advantage of by feminist gold diggers looking for monetary extortion. If they were proper Trad women they'd be working their own jobs and having secret accounts so when the court gives both sides access to only 25k in funds monthly from the business they jointly operated as a married couple we won't have a husband who gets access to both that 25k allowance and all of the other business accounts as well and thus be able to employ four to seven lawyers in lawfare and be able to afford not just the thousands in monthly legal fees but also the extra thousands for paying for court reporting, judges, discovery costs and responding to with legal petitions and requests etc.
I bet Crowder isn't spending 25k on legal fees monthly in this divorce and civil trial. I'm sure it's much, much less and Hilary is just splurging with that money because lawfare with millionaires is actually cheap.
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So looking up lawsuits from memory of influencers. Karl Jobst defending himself from a defamation lawsuit from Billy Mitchell over a YouTube video has cost him $200,000 (Australian?) in legal fees with another $100,000 expected in costs.
H3H3 Spent over $50,000 in one month in that fair use trial just in legal fees defending themselves. And that lawsuit went on for seventeen months.
Even The Quartering crowdfunded $34,000 to sue a guy who punched him in the face at GenCon and got him banned from there.
Wow 25k a month? She shouldn't of gone Trad Stay at Home Mom if she wanted a divorce. This'll be a lesson to all of the other so-called Trad women out there...
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I don't give a fuck how rich he is. he even is probably an asshole, a diva, a narcissist, and a number of other uncomplimentary things. that doesn't make these tactics being used against him good. Divorce is always fucking ugly. The courts and lawyers seem to go out of their way to make it as painful as possible. but sure fuck it. woman is right. woman is always right. no reason that all that other footage got deleted.
no divorce lawyer has ever given the advice to their client to make it look like a spousal abuse situation so you can get a bigger payout and you can get full custody instead of partial custody. I'm sure that the lawyer she had on retainer before that ring video didn't tell her to get him riled up clip it out and then delete the rest. that would never happen. no divorce lawyer would ever tell a woman to deliberately make her soon to be Ex-husband out to be a monster. especially if that means a bigger payout for her client and potentially her. because a long drawn out divorce certainly isn't a lot more billable hours. nope it is all just the evil bad Crowder. he is too loud. and mean. and bad. and loud.
no divorce lawyer has ever given the advice to their client to make it look like a spousal abuse situation so you can get a bigger payout and you can get full custody instead of partial custody. I'm sure that the lawyer she had on retainer before that ring video didn't tell her to get him riled up clip it out and then delete the rest. that would never happen. no divorce lawyer would ever tell a woman to deliberately make her soon to be Ex-husband out to be a monster. especially if that means a bigger payout for her client and potentially her. because a long drawn out divorce certainly isn't a lot more billable hours. nope it is all just the evil bad Crowder. he is too loud. and mean. and bad. and loud.
Public figure. Single.
No one knew his wife and she didn't have social media till the divorce was made public, with her help.
Because he is giving her boat loads and she still wants more...
No. It is 25k for the remainder of the trial, with at the end being 5mil her entire legal is paid for. By him
She tried to force him to get rid of his dog/make it so he shouldn't have custody. And deleted video evidence
But one shouldn't lie to win....
Trying to figure out who is technically in the wrong?
If it hadn't been for his showdown with the Daily Wire, I'd extend him benefit of the doubt. Now, in light of that info, I'm not going to assume it's BS. But I'm also not assuming it's true. When you add other people alleging stuff, I'm leaning towards the woman here, but I'm by no means certain.
This is just another test of "how much truth can you parse from iffy sources". If you answer is certain either way, you fail. But if you miss that one side has a lot of smoke from many sources, and the other side has a little, you don't do well.
Not planning is planning to lose.
Yes, again, so what? You don't understand what a divorce is.
This is scummy if true. Right now, it's just an allegation from one side. This is the only scummy thing you've alleged, if true.
The issue you have is you don't understand what is and isn't scummy, so you are eating up Crowder's PR which focuses on portraying normal behavior as bad.
I didn't say lie. But 90% of what you are complaining about isn't about lying.
Again, my issue here isn't whether or not Crowder did this. My issue is that you seem to constantly buy PR wholesale, without asking yourself "Is what they tell me actually bad". Here and with the military. Please learn how to point skepticism at people you agree with also. I like you, I think you are a good person. I also think you are too trusting, and need to have a more skeptical and non-accepting policy when it comes to statements from those you side with.
So I don't have a Ring Video Cam... but I have an Arlo one. To delete two thousand hours of Arlo Surveillance video means... first of all... I saved two thousand hours worth of Arlo Surveillance video likely within a month of it being taken. Then I went through... say... two to four thousand video clips and just mass deleted them from either the app or a hard drive or something?
And I did this between the beginnings of the divorce and now despite that same surveillance video footage actually being used by Crowder's lawyers... as revealed in a deposition leak to discredit the Crowder Family Nanny back in September. The leak of course... was favorable to Crowder.
But I guess the Wife deleted it all... somehow... since then... against court order and Crowder and he and his legal team somehow... didn't preserve any copies. Very unfortunate. Lets take what the CEO of Louder with Crowder states at face value as he reads from certain excerpts of the dozens of pages of the PLAINTIFF court documents.
I mean I guess it's possible... but I wouldn't take what Crowder and his pet CEO and legal team says at face value. I also wouldn't take what Hilary the ex-wife says at face value either but since neither she nor her legal team seems big on the whole using my platform of millions support my divorce and civil litigation I have no idea what they are saying anyways.
How many ex-employees have come out in support of Crowder? You know Brett Kavanagh had like a hundred women sign affadavits in support of him when he was accused of multiple acts of sexual assault and rape during his Supreme Court hearing.
Oh wait... how would we know since Louder with Crowder's ex-employees are apparently facing massive NDA's and non-compete clauses and legal intimidation and lawfare. Nevermind...
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I think it's absolutely fascinating how much Lawfare costs and the advantages rich people have over poor people. Steven Crowder said his show is worth $30 million a year back during his Daily Wire kerfuffle. Hilary before being married to Steven had her own job as a Sales Manager for major company and before that worked for Laura Ingraham. She has a college degree, seems well educated and from her rare appearances seemed pretty normal and daresay likable. But she moved in with Steven Crowder, left her job and became the "traditional" stay at home Mother and Wife since 2017 while working as an unpaid worker for Louder with Crowder.
Now that there is a divorce, she is apparently being given a favor of having an allowance of $25,000 a month while Crowder also gets an allowance of $25,000 from LWC (thank you court system) but also because he runs the business and his best friend/sidekick is CEO of the show with Crowder's name on it, access to all of the other financial accounts as well that the family had.
This is apparently morally wrong to many people.
Who cares if you are a millionaire? If you marry a supposedly traditional woman and they become a Stay At Home Mother and then there is a divorce, it's financial extortion. Take your five million, lose custody of the kids you shat out (you'll get them on school vacation days Woman, calm down) and shut the fuck up with this NDA.
I think there's a lesson there (at least with rich public figures involved). The lesson depends on your POV of course.
While true, it still shouldn't have come to light
So far, only one side has actually SHOWN what is going on.
Make sense
They got an affidavit from the former owner to prove her wrong.
I am focusing on the fact that we have text and the like showing how bad she is.
Her side hasn't presented anything but the two videos.
Oh?
military is because I'm in it and see it.
This though, you do have a point.
Didn't know Steven showed footage of it.
We will see how this plays out
Not shown footage publicly. Stevens lawyers had access to at least some of the Ring Video Surveillance as it was used to discredit the testimony of the families Nanny.
The only reason the public knows about it is because somehow that alt right lass Pearl Davis of all people somehow played the leaked video of their lawyers questioning the Nanny with that footage revealing it. Of course Crowder denies leaking the footage of their lawyers questioning a witness in a manner that's favorable to their case and Pearl neglected to scrub the personal information of said Nanny including her address IIRC allowing her to be opened up to harassment. Pearl to her credit also says Crowder didn't didn't her access to the leaked video.
So it must've just come from the ether...
But let's listen to what Crowders PR says and take it all at face value. Otherwise it's clearly "The Woman is always right."
See, this is the problem. Neither side has actually shown stuff that matters. All Crowder's stuff is extracts from legal documents from his team. That's some of the easiest stuff to lie with. More, much of what Crowder has shown is irrelevant (money stuff). The texts aren't about her admitting to deleting the video. Basically, his evidence doesn't line up with what would be wrong behavior.
Him having evidence of her wanting money (normal behavior in a divorce) is not the same as him having evidence of her wanting to lie.
The money stuff, for example. Or hiring PR. The stuff you are saying is wrong is the deletion of videos, which while it technically isn't a lie, is still wrong, and I'd lump that in with lying.
What you're inside is the most important thing to be critical of. A criticism of the military isn't a criticism of you. And criticizing the military isn't even saying the military is bad, it's saying that it's not doing what it needs to do. I was inside the MIC, and that's why I grew to hate it so much. It helped me a lot.
I remember hearing her say that when she interviewed Gerald.
At this rate, all we can do is wait and see, and more papers and evidence will appear by SOMEONE.
I do feel bad his personal life got leaked so hard, especially in an attempt to discredit who he is and the work he has done (recently more then anything. His Undercover has done good work)
The entire people inside the military criticize it routinely. I am honestly attempting to fix more doctrinal stuff because thay is what we should focus on.
Let the civilians deal woth the woke shit, when those in should focus on warfightinf.
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nope. some people get to vent about Crowder being a bad person over it though. so there is that I guess.
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Which is why he does everything himself