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[ThatZenoGuy]

I tend towards, never ascribe to stupidity that which can be explained by self interest. Malice is a rare property which only a few people possess, because true hatred or malice means that you're willing to destroy yourself to make another person suffer.

In the same way that true love means that you'd willingly sacrifice yourself to save another.

You really think that creeps like Bill Gates, Rothschilds, Larry Fink, Klaus Schwab, and other globalist weirdos do what they do out of mere self interest? They have everything they could want. Functionally unlimited money, power to make countries bend a knee and obey.
It's beyond self interest, it's mere malice, evil, and objective badness.
Give a street-random the powers of these people and they would certainly make dumb choices, but nothing on the level of "Hmmm, now what humble suburban town do I want to ruin with homeless epidemics and mass migration today?"

 

[Grimalkin]

You really think that creeps like Bill Gates, Rothschilds, Larry Fink, Klaus Schwab, and other globalist weirdos do what they do out of mere self interest? They have everything they could want. Functionally unlimited money, power to make countries bend a knee and obey.
It's beyond self interest, it's mere malice, evil, and objective badness.
Give a street-random the powers of these people and they would certainly make dumb choices, but nothing on the level of "Hmmm, now what humble suburban town do I want to ruin with homeless epidemics and mass migration today?"

No, those fucking weirdos are fucking evil but they're the exception to the rule. I merely posit that most people make decisions based on their self interest.

Those people that do possess true malice tend to have an outsized impact because they're not restrained by common sense.

 

[mrttao]

No, those fucking weirdos are fucking evil but they're the exception to the rule. I merely posit that most people make decisions based on their self interest.

Those people that do possess true malice tend to have an outsized impact because they're not restrained by common sense.

That would be a form of selection bias.

You are discussing distribution in general human population.
But high ranking politicians are a tiny tiny fraction of the general population that are heavily selected towards certain traits which are rare in the general populace for various reasons.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

No, those fucking weirdos are fucking evil but they're the exception to the rule. I merely posit that most people make decisions based on their self interest.

Where does self interest end, and malice begin? At some point it's awfully cloudy and self interest can be synonymous.
"I didn't blow up that hospital for MALICE! I did it because it'd make me a lot of money!" -A TERRIBLY written villain

 

[Grimalkin]

That would be a form of selection bias.

You are discussing distribution in general human population.
But high ranking politicians are a tiny tiny fraction of the general population that are heavily selected towards certain traits which are rare in the general populace for various reasons.

Yes and no, I'm saying that the number of self interested politicians is far greater than the number of malicious politicians but both self interested people and malicious people are disproportionately attracted to political positions.

Where does self interest end, and malice begin? At some point it's awfully cloudy and self interest can be synonymous.
"I didn't blow up that hospital for MALICE! I did it because it'd make me a lot of money!" -A TERRIBLY written villain

Well malice begins when it contradicts self interest. If you act against your own self interest to hurt someone, that's malice. If you act against your own self interest to help someone that's love.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Well malice begins when it contradicts self interest. If you act against your own self interest to hurt someone, that's malice. If you act against your own self interest to help someone that's love.

That doesn't adhere to the definition of Malice.
"ill will" "wrongful intentions"

 

[Abhorsen]

Edit: Malice and Good Will are going to be disproportionately represented because irrational people will often destroy rational people, since they're more willing to sacrifice to achieve their goals.

Personally, I think this is a mistaken way to look at things. Instead, consider that everyone is rational, but have different values. Two of the biggest values are time preference and risk tolerance, but also remember that some people have completely inverted values. For example, Hamas getting their own kids killed by Israel isn't irrational: they view their death as an instant ticket to heaven, and thus a positive.

In fact, I'd say that active malice is actually incredibly rare. Usually it's just all self interest or ideological interest, but many ideologies are repugnant.

 

[Grimalkin]

That doesn't adhere to the definition of Malice.
"ill will" "wrongful intentions"

Yes it does because to have ill will to your society is to harm yourself as well.

Personally, I think this is a mistaken way to look at things. Instead, consider that everyone is rational, but have different values. Two of the biggest values are time preference and risk tolerance, but also remember that some people have completely inverted values. For example, Hamas getting their own kids killed by Israel isn't irrational: they view their death as an instant ticket to heaven, and thus a positive.

In fact, I'd say that active malice is actually incredibly rare. Usually it's just all self interest or ideological interest, but many ideologies are repugnant.

In that case it would fall under the category of good will, both malice and good will are subjective after all. And I agree that active malice is incredibly rare, but those who possess it have a tendency to seek power.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Yes it does because to have ill will to your society is to harm yourself as well.

XD Mate you can have ill will for everyone but yourself.
Do you really think the practices these creeps do, hurt themselves? Maybe in the very long run, but that's irrelevant to the fact they do it to be massive satanic weirdos.

 

[Grimalkin]

XD Mate you can have ill will for everyone but yourself.
Do you really think the practices these creeps do, hurt themselves? Maybe in the very long run, but that's irrelevant to the fact they do it to be massive satanic weirdos.

Deep down they know it'll hurt them, sadism and masochism always walk hand in hand.

 

[Abhorsen]

Deep down they know it'll hurt them, sadism and masochism always walk hand in hand.

Eh, not really. Like I know actual sadists and masochists. They usually fall firmly on one side or the other, not both.

 

[LordsFire]

You really think that creeps like Bill Gates, Rothschilds, Larry Fink, Klaus Schwab, and other globalist weirdos do what they do out of mere self interest? They have everything they could want. Functionally unlimited money, power to make countries bend a knee and obey.
It's beyond self interest, it's mere malice, evil, and objective badness.
Give a street-random the powers of these people and they would certainly make dumb choices, but nothing on the level of "Hmmm, now what humble suburban town do I want to ruin with homeless epidemics and mass migration today?"

Oh no, what they're doing is so much worse than mere malice.

When you're climbing the mountain, you have an objective. There's somewhere you're going, it's hard, it's challenging, it's exhilirating.

Getting to the top like Gates and many others have, it takes a hell of a lot of drive, talent, and skill, and the process of getting up there is full of stunning successes and defeats that give a sensation not unlike an Olympic athlete winning, nearly winning, or almost winning and then facing crushing defeat.

To struggle like that is to be viscerally alive in a way that is hard to adequately describe.


What then, when you unquestionably are at the top? When you've not only climbed the mountain, but destroyed the route up after you, so nobody could feasibly come and push you off, restarting the struggle that you fought to get up there?

...Life becomes hollow, empty, and listless.

You need purpose.

You need meaning.


...And then along come the 'wise' men and women, who will explain to you all the good that you can do, how you can make the world a better place, how you can stick up for the downtrodden, how you can save the planet!

You have meaning again, and on top of that, you have the widespread acclaim and adulation of beautiful celebrities, of the media, of time magazine, heck, you might get a nobel prize and membership at such esteemed organizations as the World Economic Forum!

Aren't you such a good person? Aren't you doing so much good to save the world?


That, that is the terrifying tyranny of 'virtuous' elites, who are just trying to help you live a better, happier, fulfilling life, like they are!

Don't you understand that you will own nothing, and be happier than you ever have before? Won't you be proud to take part in the project to save the world, alongside such luminaries as Bill Gates, the Clintons, and Henry Kissinger?


Yes, these people have deluded themselves into thinking they're the good guys, and anyone who would deny their glorious vision of the future is evil.

 

[ATP]

He cites the Torah but I bet most of his view actually come from the Talmud.

All he said come from Talmud.Torah could not say anytching about christians,becouse was written where chrstians do not existed yet.When Talmud was written after 93AD,and that is why could describe Jesus as evul sorcerer.

Remember - jews who live now are younger then our Church.

 

[Blasterbot]

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the futurama suicide booths were supposed to be a joke. but soon they will be available for the swiss.

 

[mrttao]

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the futurama suicide booths were supposed to be a joke. but soon they will be available for the swiss.

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[Skitzyfrenic]

Sarco – Assisted Suicide Pod

the futurama suicide booths were supposed to be a joke. but soon they will be available for the swiss.

Pretty sure they were already available in the Netherlands/Belgium.

And however Canada is doing it.

But yeah.

It's a way to cut costs and control the population.

First, select a undesirable demographic.

Second, in some way make life unbearable for them. Ie. Social manipulation and isolation, refuse to give them treatment for chronic health issues, and more.

Third, offer them a way out via death.

Fourth, watch the undesirables purge themselves.

 

[Cherico]

Pretty sure they were already available in the Netherlands/Belgium.

And however Canada is doing it.

But yeah.

It's a way to cut costs and control the population.

First, select a undesirable demographic.

Second, in some way make life unbearable for them. Ie. Social manipulation and isolation, refuse to give them treatment for chronic health issues, and more.

Third, offer them a way out via death.

Fourth, watch the undesirables purge themselves.

5th watch the undesriables grow to fucking dispise you, 6th watch them rally behind increasingly more extreme populists who promise them protection from you and revenge. 7th watch as one finally takes power and then purges you to the delight of all.

8th new system is created to prevent some one like you from ever taking power again.

 

[Skitzyfrenic]

I mean, yeah. Pendulum swings, cycles. History rhymes.

Cause like 9-12 are various steps to becoming the same monster that gets some portion undesirables to kill themselves.

 

[ATP]

Pretty sure they were already available in the Netherlands/Belgium.

And however Canada is doing it.

But yeah.

It's a way to cut costs and control the population.

First, select a undesirable demographic.

Second, in some way make life unbearable for them. Ie. Social manipulation and isolation, refuse to give them treatment for chronic health issues, and more.

Third, offer them a way out via death.

Fourth, watch the undesirables purge themselves.

you have a point

5th watch the undesriables grow to fucking dispise you, 6th watch them rally behind increasingly more extreme populists who promise them protection from you and revenge. 7th watch as one finally takes power and then purges you to the delight of all.

8th new system is created to prevent some one like you from ever taking power again.

You also have a point

I mean, yeah. Pendulum swings, cycles. History rhymes.

Cause like 9-12 are various steps to becoming the same monster that gets some portion undesirables to kill themselves.

Indeed.One country/dynasty replace previous,and become ruled by degenerates.

 

[DarthOne]

5th watch the undesriables grow to fucking dispise you, 6th watch them rally behind increasingly more extreme populists who promise them protection from you and revenge. 7th watch as one finally takes power and then purges you to the delight of all.

8th new system is created to prevent some one like you from ever taking power again.

If they win. if they get popular supports form an atomized and foreign-flooded nation.