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[Aldarion]

So de facto the same reason royalty and nobility had back in history?
Then here you have it.

And that was precisely my point.

We still have nobility. And that would not be an issue if the nobility had reasons to be patriotic. But they don't, because all power is in transnational institutions, and said nobility (plutocracy) is also transnational.

The "transnationality problem" seems to be something that neither monarchy nor democracy can easily deal with. You pretty much need to either have some kind of nationalist government (in democracy, got to elect a nationalist party, in monarchy, well, be lucky with the royal family i guess) or the country has to be a global pariah like North Korea.

>major
Here's the problem. Many have smaller parties that aren't, and most of the major ones only got subverted no more than few decades ago from leftist infiltration, while, at least in theory, in democracy it is possible for small parties to become large, and large parties to become small (happened in Poland to socialdemocrats, went from ruling party of several times to ~10% party).
It's definitely a dysfunctional system when this can't happen despite public dissatisfaction with the large parties, but it was functional when the choice did exist, and still does in countries that don't have this established party subversion problem on such large scale.

That is actually why I consider monarchy to be more functional than modern democracy.

You cannot elect a nationalist party in the modern system, because the political parties and the media are all owned by the globalists. In Croatia, during the 1990s we had half a dozen parties that weren't owned by either Communists or foreign plutocrats - specifically, HSP (Croatian Party of Rights) and related parties - but come 2000s, and all of them got bought out. When it came to HSP itself, Communist infiltrators got Ante Đapić into power, and so the party got largely neutralized. Today, while it does appear they managed to get some of the Communists out (otherwise I don't see how Karlo Starčević would have gotten elected) it is basically a political nonentity, especially compared to the still ruling Communist Party.

Or look at the US. Republicans and Democrats are both international leftists. Donald Trump managed to leverage social media to achieve some degree of success, but he ended up achieving nothing important, and with the Communist crackdown on social media, it is unlikely his success can be replicated easily, if at all.

Frankly, accident of birth may well be a more functional system in terms of ensuring prosperity than this clownshow we have nowadays. But yes, transnationality problem would always remain.

Also, I don't really know which countries don't have established party subversion problem. Only countries that come to mind are Hungary, Poland, and possibly Czech and Slovak Republics, but that is only if we are looking through rose-tinted glasses. Other than that... and even if parties haven't been subverted, NGO's have.

Which is a result of stable, reasonable and functional law&order plus relatively free and stable economic policy.
Technically almost any government can do that, but the incentives and reasonings will vary and so it seems fairly rare overall.
Historically if a monarchy does it, it looks like it soon stops being a monarchy or turns into a figurehead one, so, probably monarchy is a poor choice for promoting it.

Possibly. But that seems to be limited to the West for some reason. In central Europe, last time we had a

stable, reasonable and functional law&order plus relatively free and stable economic policy

was Austria-Hungary.

 

[Marduk]

And that was precisely my point.

We still have nobility. And that would not be an issue if the nobility had reasons to be patriotic. But they don't, because all power is in transnational institutions, and said nobility (plutocracy) is also transnational.

That's the problem here. Nobility, or even royalty, can choose to be patriotic... or not. While financially speaking, dodging the reasons to be patriotic is safer than not doing so.

That is actually why I consider monarchy to be more functional than modern democracy.

You cannot elect a nationalist party in the modern system, because the political parties and the media are all owned by the globalists. In Croatia, during the 1990s we had half a dozen parties that weren't owned by either Communists or foreign plutocrats - specifically, HSP (Croatian Party of Rights) and related parties - but come 2000s, and all of them got bought out. When it came to HSP itself, Communist infiltrators got Ante Đapić into power, and so the party got largely neutralized. Today, while it does appear they managed to get some of the Communists out (otherwise I don't see how Karlo Starčević would have gotten elected) it is basically a political nonentity, especially compared to the still ruling Communist Party.

Or look at the US. Republicans and Democrats are both international leftists. Donald Trump managed to leverage social media to achieve some degree of success, but he ended up achieving nothing important, and with the Communist crackdown on social media, it is unlikely his success can be replicated easily, if at all.

Somehow he had a large majority of GOP congresscritters and senators voting with him, so they can't be all communists, they could have thrown him under the bus if they were. This kind of exaggeration gives presents the situation as worse than it is. Sure, globalists and their media try to help their pet candidates, and bribe others with favors, but it only goes so far, no one has an obligation to accept their offer or their bullshit, other factors decide whether they will bet any return out of these.

Media control i think is more of an issue here, and also more variable while at it. Looking at it from a distance, dictatorships are pretty damn interested in who and how controls the media even though people don't get to vote there, in democracies, where it does matter more what people think, this is something that by all logic should be considered even more important.

Frankly, accident of birth may well be a more functional system in terms of ensuring prosperity than this clownshow we have nowadays. But yes, transnationality problem would always remain.

Also, I don't really know which countries don't have established party subversion problem. Only countries that come to mind are Hungary, Poland, and possibly Czech and Slovak Republics, but that is only if we are looking through rose-tinted glasses. Other than that... and even if parties haven't been subverted, NGO's have.

TBH most of the political NGOs of note were already created as globalist or leftist institutions to begin with. This is why all the leftists scream in outrage when someone tries to regulate and restricts NGOs in general in some way.

Possibly. But that seems to be limited to the West for some reason. In central Europe, last time we had a

was Austria-Hungary.

And that was pretty organizationally dysfunctional due to the multnational nature anyway.

 

[TheRejectionist]

 

[colorles]

Weimar bros here we come!

This, right here folks, is what an actual cuck looks like.

In a year or two his daughter will be calling some tweeker daddy.

 

[DarthOne]

Weimar bros here we come!

Man, the Thermidorian reaction to this nonsense in Western society - assuming it happens- will be something else. Just hope we don’t go full insane over it. That’s the last thing we need.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

This, right here folks, is what an actual cuck looks like.

In a year or two his daughter will be calling some tweeker daddy.

.....Yeah calling it now.

In a year we're gonna find out he fucks his own kid.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

HMMMMMMMM

 

[Cherico]

.....Yeah calling it now.

In a year we're gonna find out he fucks his own kid.

I really hope your wrong, and yet knowning how fucked our political class is I cant rule it out.

HMMMMMMMM

These guys really do not think about what they say do they?

 

[Aldarion]

That's the problem here. Nobility, or even royalty, can choose to be patriotic... or not. While financially speaking, dodging the reasons to be patriotic is safer than not doing so.

Yeah. Nobility could be quite patriotic back when wealth was in land (I mentioned how many Hungarian and Croatian nobles went essentially bankrupt defending the kingdom from the Ottomans). But modern world is basically destroying all the old ties, and in the process creating rootless, soulless creatures that can hardly be called human any more.

Somehow he had a large majority of GOP congresscritters and senators voting with him, so they can't be all communists, they could have thrown him under the bus if they were. This kind of exaggeration gives presents the situation as worse than it is. Sure, globalists and their media try to help their pet candidates, and bribe others with favors, but it only goes so far, no one has an obligation to accept their offer or their bullshit, other factors decide whether they will bet any return out of these.

Media control i think is more of an issue here, and also more variable while at it. Looking at it from a distance, dictatorships are pretty damn interested in who and how controls the media even though people don't get to vote there, in democracies, where it does matter more what people think, this is something that by all logic should be considered even more important.

That depends on what exactly they were voting on. I don't follow US politics that closely, but didn't Trump fail at pushing through any more important reforms? Or at least that is the impression I've gotten.

And yes, media control is the issue we are facing today.

TBH most of the political NGOs of note were already created as globalist or leftist institutions to begin with. This is why all the leftists scream in outrage when someone tries to regulate and restricts NGOs in general in some way.

Agreed.

And that was pretty organizationally dysfunctional due to the multnational nature anyway.

To an extent. Still, you could know what to expect. By the way, most land cadasters in use in Croatia today date back to Austria-Hungary...

 

[Bear Ribs]

Washington To Allow Children to Be Legally Taken From Parents If They Don’t Consent to Gender Transition

townhall.com

 

[Marduk]

Yeah. Nobility could be quite patriotic back when wealth was in land (I mentioned how many Hungarian and Croatian nobles went essentially bankrupt defending the kingdom from the Ottomans). But modern world is basically destroying all the old ties, and in the process creating rootless, soulless creatures that can hardly be called human any more.

Yeah, back then this was probably best way to hold lots of wealth, and in turn made stewardship of the state and territory important to the landowners, big or small.
But today, this no longer applies, to nobility, royalty, businessmen etc, as when they enter into the millionaire territory, keeping the money in stock or other investments is simpler, less related to dealings with the politics of land and government that holds it, and possibly more profitable too. Ironically the socialist parts of political arena are making this problem unnecessarily worse, as they *persuade* the rich people to keep their wealth in tax havens lest they want it to be heavily taxed and regulated, while if they kept the wealth invested locally, they may have more of a reason to care.

That depends on what exactly they were voting on. I don't follow US politics that closely, but didn't Trump fail at pushing through any more important reforms? Or at least that is the impression I've gotten.

And yes, media control is the issue we are facing today.

Trump has his problems, and one of them was lack of what we would call cadres, while GOP itself, even including the more globalist wing of it isn't strong in that department to begin with, so it didn't really help, hence the huge turnover of generally incompetent or disloyal people in his administration, which was a major obstacle to getting things done.

 

[colorles]

Washington To Allow Children to Be Legally Taken From Parents If They Don’t Consent to Gender Transition

townhall.com

It's amazing how different two states, in the same country, can really be having read this story following just reading about what is happening in Florida.

 

[Zyobot]

Man, the Thermidorian reaction to this nonsense in Western society - assuming it happens- will be something else. Just hope we don’t go full insane over it. That’s the last thing we need.

When it comes to excesses, I've noticed how people keep citing the fate of Weimar Germany. And in that sense, they're probably not wrong, our much slower and "steadier" march to the end (as opposed to a quick meltdown resolved in a few decades) notwithstanding.

As far as our "Thermidorian Reaction" goes, I wonder if the rise of militant Islam in the Middle East — namely, the Iranian Revolution and Jihadi factions like the Taliban, Al-Qaeda, and perhaps even ISIS — provide a glimpse at what reactionary blowback in the West might look like? Heck, the fact future "Neo-Crusader" terrorists and revolutionary factions would have present-day Islamic extremists to draw inspiration from definitely doesn't help, given how infamous names like Osama Bin Laden and Ayatollah Khomeini are.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Washington To Allow Children to Be Legally Taken From Parents If They Don’t Consent to Gender Transition

townhall.com

This is how you start a revolution.

 

[Yinko]

This is how you start a revolution.

The title is a bit misleading. What the bill actually says is that if an underage individual shows up at a shelter as a runaway, the existing list of reasons to call the CPS instead of the parents will now include parental disagreement over abortions and transitions.

Not saying that it won't piss people off though. Part of the issue is that even in the most conservative parts of Oregon and Washington, most of the people that run the social services and charities are lefties. So they will happily go along with these things even if everyone around them hates it.

 

[DarthOne]

The title is a bit misleading. What the bill actually says is that if an underage individual shows up at a shelter as a runaway, the existing list of reasons to call the CPS instead of the parents will now include parental disagreement over abortions and transitions.

Not saying that it won't piss people off though. Part of the issue is that even in the most conservative parts of Oregon and Washington, most of the people that run the social services and charities are lefties. So they will happily go along with these things even if everyone around them hates it.

That sort of thing is just asking to get lynched. Or a Molotov through the window at night.

 

[Yinko]

That sort of thing is just asking to get lynched. Or a Molotov through the window at night.

One question I would have, is if this goes the other way. For instance, let's say that some kid runs away because they are pregnant and want to keep the kid while their parents want them to have an abortion, or their parents want to trans them when they are normal. Are the shelter staff and CPS going to be as on the child's side in those cases?

 

[DarthOne]

One question I would have, is if this goes the other way. For instance, let's say that some kid runs away because they are pregnant and want to keep the kid while their parents want them to have an abortion, or their parents want to trans them when they are normal. Are the shelter staff and CPS going to be as on the child's side in those cases?

Given how leftists are, I doubt it. Which is depressing.

 

[King Arts]

Second link. Don't be that guy. Don't impregnate a THOT (or THOY). He took care of her kids from other men, yet she killed his. That's just stone cold. Sadly, everything about this guy screamed he was a weak. The crying and pleading. Dude, if you're doing that its already over. such things repulse women and will only ensure she destroys your genetic legacy. I feel bad for him. No one should suffer like that. But my feeling bad for him is muted by the fact he clearly choose the wrong kind of woman. That sounds cold, but that's just life.

This makes me think Islam has the right idea, and fuck everyone who supports the west and defends it. This is what your human rights gives you I hope your women continue to be whores and kill your children. Because you obviously let it happen and did nothing to stop it.

 

[ATP]

This makes me think Islam has the right idea, and fuck everyone who supports the west and defends it. This is what your human rights gives you I hope your women continue to be whores and kill your children. Because you obviously let it happen and did nothing to stop it.

Libs are not West.They are enemy who take over.
And muslims are the same enemy who want us dead.Why do you think libs support them?
They are both enemy of West.