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Libs are not West.They are enemy who take over.
And muslims are the same enemy who want us dead.Why do you think libs support them?
They are both enemy of West.
This is not true. Maybe it was true hundreds of years ago. But that west is dead. The new west is about defending rights of homos and trannies and child murder. Those who support and defend that are scum who are worthy to be spit on.
 
This is not true. Maybe it was true hundreds of years ago. But that west is dead. The new west is about defending rights of homos and trannies and child murder. Those who support and defend that are scum who are worthy to be spit on.
Are you proposing we join with Islam?
 
Are you proposing we join with Islam?
In what way? No they are theologically false, Mohamud was not a real prophet.
But if you mean politically like for example with Muslim immigration to Europe then sure. Let the Muslims come. Sharia law can't be as bad as this.

Any conservative who champions western nations and ideals is frankly at best a useful idiot. The west that was honorable and Christian is dead. What is left is not worth respect. Anything that is against them is good.

I mean look at the worst case scenario now a woman kills a man's child and the man like a pussy does nothing, what would most men in Ancient Rome had done to a cheating wife or a woman that killed their son? Islam would at least let men have control over their wives, and idiots who support human rights and enlightenment thinkers are worthy of disgust and scorn.
 
In what way? No they are theologically false, Mohamud was not a real prophet.
But if you mean politically like for example with Muslim immigration to Europe then sure. Let the Muslims come. Sharia law can't be as bad as this.

Any conservative who champions western nations and ideals is frankly at best a useful idiot. The west that was honorable and Christian is dead. What is left is not worth respect. Anything that is against them is good.

I mean look at the worst case scenario now a woman kills a man's child and the man like a pussy does nothing, what would most men in Ancient Rome had done to a cheating wife or a woman that killed their son? Islam would at least let men have control over their wives, and idiots who support human rights and enlightenment thinkers are worthy of disgust and scorn.
You would replace one evil with another then. They would destroy the West as throughly as what is being done now. You cannot have Islam without everything that comes with it. They would force their false faith upon everyone and everything, every law.
 
You would replace one evil with another then. They would destroy the West as throughly as what is being done now.
They are an evil I will readily admit that. However not nearly as thoroughly Christians have lived in the middle east even under Islamic persecution for over 1000 years. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying it's persecution Christians would be 2nd class citizens our word in court would be worth half of a Muslim. However we could still raise families and rule ourselves as long as we paid that stupid extra jizya tax thing and did not rebel. Christians lived in Jeurasalem, Syria, Egypt, the Ottoman Empire. And yes there was oppresion both on a secular level from the leaders being corrupt idiots, and also spiritual because they favored those who are spiritually in the wrong. They were still the lesser evil.

The best way I can explain the reason for my contempt for the west and those who defend it and try to export it's influence is to ask yourself from where do you think the Anti Christ will come when Revelations happens? I'm pretty sure China and Russia, and Iran won't be the ones who will outlaw Christianity worldwide and cause the apocalypse it's the global worldwide west.
 
Islam, at its core, is violently expansionist.

Their "Golden Age" only existed and lasted because they expanded via the sword in the post-Roman/early Medieval eras -- even with the good that came with it, such as the preservation of Roman and Greek medical texts, it still came at the price of subjugation and expansionism.

When Europe got its shit together and began pushing them out/resisting them effectively, the Golden Age Islamic World basically collapsed in on itself; infighting, power struggles, theological divides, betrayals, shifts away from the arts and science, et cetera.

Only the Ottomans really managed to survive at the same level they did at their zenith, but even they eventually went into a decline over the centuries, ultimately becoming the "Sick Man of Europe".

In the modern day, Islam cannot expand like how it used to in ages past -- ISIS and other various Middle-Eastern countries have tried, and they've basically had their teeth kicked in by either the West, other Middle-Eastern Powers, or even the old Soviet Bloc (including China, and although the USSR's involvement in Afghanistan was a fucking disaster, they still bogged and tied down the Islamic fighters there).

So, now they're being subversive about it, intentionally or not -- they flee to Western nations and try to change them from within culturally and legally. Hell, the fucking birth-rates alone are going to fuck over native populations, especially if dumbasses from said native populations marry or get knocked up from these migrants... sorry, "refugees".

They don't see non-Muslims as people. Non-Islamic women are just there to be fucked and played with, with force (rape) or by consent from morons.

We see this in Sweden and Germany. 'nuff said.
 
I have some respect for Islam, I really do. But, at the end of the day, their religion is about this:



You can only reason with them if you accept their reason as truth.

And? They fight for what they see as their territory push out what they see as their enemies to enforce what they believe came from God.
They are wrong, yet I'm not arguing or debating with Muslims here this is not a conversation with them to tell them they need to chill out or stop being extreme because there are no muslims here I don't think. This is about the conservatives here, we need to stop being partisan towards the institution. Our nations are dead, we should stop supporting "Oh the Uk is where I was born when Islamic immigrants come over they do crimes against the Natives like rape or such, against unaccompanied women. We should stop this, and not let anymore come in!"

See the problem is you are giving preferential treatment to the secular whores above the Muslims. Muslims would be bad if the nation was TRULY Christian. Both being an atheist and a Muslim will not grant paradise only Christianity saves. However we need to realize that while all are hellbound not all punishments in hell are equal and the Muslim is closer to the correct belief and more likely to find the truth. Atheists hate God, while those of other religions merely are ignorant about him.

Muslims who live in rich Islamic nations that aren't at war Saudi, UAE, etc. have low crime rates yet when they come to rich western nations(not Asian ones) they become troublesome. Why is this it's not a stupid racial conspiracy against the Euros or whites no. It's because white westerners have accepted not just letting women be dressing like whores and unattended something that ONLY became a thing after the 1960's. Yet not just that because Asia allows whordom since they are mostly pagan, but at least they have strict laws and punishments just like the Arabs do so order can be kept in check. Yet liberalism took that from the west. That is why we need to do anything we can to change the west and take away liberalism.


Islam, at its core, is violently expansionist.

Their "Golden Age" only existed and lasted because they expanded via the sword in the post-Roman/early Medieval eras -- even with the good that came with it, such as the preservation of Roman and Greek medical texts, it still came at the price of subjugation and expansionism.

When Europe got its shit together and began pushing them out/resisting them effectively, the Golden Age Islamic World basically collapsed in on itself; infighting, power struggles, theological divides, betrayals, shifts away from the arts and science, et cetera.

Only the Ottomans really managed to survive at the same level they did at their zenith, but even they eventually went into a decline over the centuries, ultimately becoming the "Sick Man of Europe".

In the modern day, Islam cannot expand like how it used to in ages past -- ISIS and other various Middle-Eastern countries have tried, and they've basically had their teeth kicked in by either the West, other Middle-Eastern Powers, or even the old Soviet Bloc (including China, and although the USSR's involvement in Afghanistan was a fucking disaster, they still bogged and tied down the Islamic fighters there).

So, now they're being subversive about it, intentionally or not -- they flee to Western nations and try to change them from within culturally and legally. Hell, the fucking birth-rates alone are going to fuck over native populations, especially if dumbasses from said native populations marry or get knocked up from these migrants... sorry, "refugees".

They don't see non-Muslims as people. Non-Islamic women are just there to be fucked and played with, with force (rape) or by consent from morons.

We see this in Sweden and Germany. 'nuff said.
This is nonsense. Yes Islam spread by the sword so did Christianity in Europe, both Muslims and Christians have been "infighting" that is just competition between states and empires it existed for all nations and will continue to exist, as for the "golden age" collapsing on itself. No that was the Mongols, and then the Ottomans came to power and did the empire thing, but all empires eventually decay and the cycle happens to cause them to fall. This happens to Chinese dynasties which were not religiously extremist. Again no human nation will last forever.


Your last been is also funny you complaining about increase in Muslim immigration in Sweden and Germany when England is probably much worse. Well maybe not worse than Sweden. But Germany does not deserve it yet. However the actions of the common Englishman and Swede made them horrible people who should be changed culturally by Muslims. Their societies raped the world and actively caused problems in the modern day for stupidity they did 100 years ago they deserve it especially with how evil they are now. If a lesser evil hurts a greater evil it's not a cause of anger.
 
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This is nonsense. Yes Islam spread by the sword so did Christianity in Europe, both Muslims and Christians have been "infighting" that is just competition between states and empires it existed for all nations and will continue to exist, as for the "golden age" collapsing on itself. No that was the Mongols, and then the Ottomans came to power and did the empire thing, but all empires eventually decay and the cycle happens to cause them to fall. This happens to Chinese dynasties which were not religiously extremist. Again no human nation will last forever.


Your last been is also funny you complaining about increase in Muslim immigration in Sweden and Germany when England is probably much worse. Well maybe not worse than Sweden. But Germany does not deserve it yet.
Christianity did spread by the sword during its lifetime too (the Crusades, what happened in France between Christian sects, for example), but it also began as what was basically a socially subversive movement (springing from Judaism) to change the culture of the dominant power at the time [Rome].

Every religion has been drenched in blood at one point or another, but while Christianity had periods of violence (to the point where over 75% of its history has involved violence of some type or another), Islam is based around it. The creed, at its core, is convert or kill all non-believers. That's the difference, and it still applies to this very day.

When they couldn't do that any more during its Golden Age? Womp womp bam.

The Mongols helped curtail them in the East just as Europe did in the West/North. Different causes, same result.

Germany's leadership and police tried to cover up mass migrant rapes on native German people. Sweden has sexual assaults by migrants and "refugees" on pretty much a daily basis, and they're not allowed to report statistics or take such crimes seriously any more because they're afraid it's make them look racist/Islamophobic.

I'd say they're pretty fucked (literally and proverbially).
However the actions of the common Englishman and Swede made them horrible people who should be changed culturally by Muslims. Their societies raped the world and actively caused problems in the modern day for stupidity they did 100 years ago they deserve it especially with how evil they are now. If a lesser evil hurts a greater evil it's not a cause of anger.
Ah, you're one of those people. smh Also, as an Englishman, I admit our country has terrible faults because of dumb shit -- Pakistani/Muslim grooming gangs, PC culture contaminating everything, illegal economic migrants/"refugees", a dumbass government and a London Mayor that acts more for foreign interests than actual Londoner interests, et cetera, but your last sentence?

I can happily say "fuck you, you ignorant shite".
 
Islam, at its core, is violently expansionist.

Their "Golden Age" only existed and lasted because they expanded via the sword in the post-Roman/early Medieval eras -- even with the good that came with it, such as the preservation of Roman and Greek medical texts, it still came at the price of subjugation and expansionism.
It was created by warlord Muhammad as a death cult to discipline his troops. There is literally a passage in the Koran where Muhammad is preaching to his army of horse bandits and camel thieves how to put a city to sack correctly because they didn't know how to rape, loot and burn in the correct order. This passage is often banded about as how Islam is a great source of morality.
 
It was created by warlord Muhammad as a death cult to discipline his troops. There is literally a passage in the Koran where Muhammad is preaching to his army of horse bandits and camel thieves how to put a city to sack correctly because they didn't know how to rape, loot and burn in the correct order. This passage is often banded about as how Islam is a great source of morality.
Surprisingly, I did not know that. Wow.
 
And? They fight for what they see as their territory push out what they see as their enemies to enforce what they believe came from God.
They are wrong, yet I'm not arguing or debating with Muslims here this is not a conversation with them to tell them they need to chill out or stop being extreme because there are no muslims here I don't think. This is about the conservatives here, we need to stop being partisan towards the institution. Our nations are dead, we should stop supporting "Oh the Uk is where I was born when Islamic immigrants come over they do crimes against the Natives like rape or such, against unaccompanied women. We should stop this, and not let anymore come in!"

See the problem is you are giving preferential treatment to the secular whores above the Muslims
. Muslims would be bad if the nation was TRULY Christian. Both being an atheist and a Muslim will not grant paradise only Christianity saves. However we need to realize that while all are hellbound not all punishments in hell are equal and the Muslim is closer to the correct belief and more likely to find the truth. Atheists hate God, while those of other religions merely are ignorant about him.

Muslims who live in rich Islamic nations that aren't at war Saudi, UAE, etc. have low crime rates yet when they come to rich western nations(not Asian ones) they become troublesome. Why is this it's not a stupid racial conspiracy against the Euros or whites no. It's because white westerners have accepted not just letting women be dressing like whores and unattended something that ONLY became a thing after the 1960's. Yet not just that because Asia allows whordom since they are mostly pagan, but at least they have strict laws and punishments just like the Arabs do so order can be kept in check. Yet liberalism took that from the west. That is why we need to do anything we can to change the west and take away liberalism.

Who says they are wrong? Why shouldn't they fight for what their believe in? For that matter, why shouldn't women take as much advantage as they possibly can of the current western legal and social system? The world doesn't owe anybody anything; nor does anybody owe the world anything. People and ideologically aligned groups of people will just do whatever they can get away with and take it as far as they possibly can. And, for what it is worth, Islam is a pretty powerful binding social force if nothing else.

They commit those crimes because they have absolutely no respect for western women - for obvious reasons - and, likewise, absolutely no respect for the western societies - by extension, men - who allow them to be that way. Yes, indeed, the Taliban for example are currently enforcing order in Afghanistan quite effectively. Native Islamic societies run quite smoothly and peacefully amongst themselves due to their reason being universally accepted as truth - through whatever means necessary. Like I said: You can only reason with them if you accept their reason as truth. Nobody is stopping you from accepting their reason as truth.

And I am certainly not giving preferential treatment to secular western whores. But with Islam it is their way or the highway. You cannot pick and choose what parts of their code of conduct you like and ascribe to, and which ones to shun. Unless you want to start your own break away sect of course...nobody is stopping you.

Nevertheless, I agree with you in the ultimate point you seem to be making: that any sort of conservative religious beliefs are superior to western whoredom-consumerism. So, why not do what I do and just, at least spiritually, ascribe to parts of various codes of conducts of various religious teachings that I believe in, while shunning any parts I do not. Spiritually a man can certainly ascribe to parts of Christian, Islamic, and various pagan beliefs, if not so as a means of affiliation...again, unless you are looking to start your own sect of course...again, nobody is stopping you but it seldom works out well...

Either way, conservative religious beliefs are a savior to many and should be respected for the good they can bring out in humanity; while also understanding that, just like with anything else, tribalism is often a result and even deeply religious men who, in theory should be able to get along just fine with each other, in practice often will not. Tribalism, of whatever kind, is and always will be the driving force of humanity.
 

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