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[Vyor]

Creationism makes no pretense at not being a theological concept.

Materialistic evolution does make such a pretense, and its adherents have held back scientific progress for generations at this point, hijacking the institutions of science and its cultural authority to be vehicles for their ideology.

Again, a lot of the playbook the progressives are using now.

You're wrong lmao.

Intelligent design is likely correct, pure creationism is like not.

 

[mrttao]

Debian linux internship requirements are now that you are not allowed to be a white man or asian. everyone else welcome.

 

[Ixian]

And again, this is typical of materialist arguments. 'My position is the only possible interpretation of evidence. If you disagree with my interpretation, you disagree with evidence!'

No.

No it is not.

The brain, along with the rest of the nervous system, is clearly the physiological control system for the body. There's no real doubt on that. Sensory intake, interpretation, memory storage and recall, all of these things clearly have a physical functionality in the brain.

The question is not 'is the brain used for this?' The question is 'is the brain using itself, or being used?'

The brain as the 'pilot's seat' or 'interface and control system' for the soul is a perfectly reasonable interpretation of the evidence, so long as you aren't a dogmatic materialist. It's completely coherent with how brain abnormalities, damage, and treatments, affect a person's ability to function in this world.

What materialists can't explain about how brute mechanistic functions would create, and thus the problem the worldview shares with the concept of sapient AI simply 'emerging' from computer systems, an emergent phenomena as abstract as conscious thought.

On top of all the other absurdities and blatant falsehoods of evolutionary theory, the idea that the incredible resources needed to create something as sophisticated as human cognition, through a purely mechanical computing system, would be advantageous for millions upon millions of years when it's incomplete and non-functional, yet depriving the 'evolving' organism of the resources needed to support it for iterative generation after generation of random chance just happening to drop element after element of the system into place until it finally is complete enough to perform an actually useful function, it's beyond absurd.

But then, irreducible complexity has been the kryptonite of the cult of materialism for decades. It still defeats them at blood clotting, sexual reproduction, and abiogenesis itself, so why would such fanatics be any more rational about applying it to the brain and conscious thought?



Maybe if people start making biological computers, particularly out of lab-grown human brain tissue, we will some day get a sapient AI.

It's never happening with transistor-based computing. That's not how physics work.

Yeah, we've started doing that.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/science/articles/10.3389/fsci.2023.1017235/full&ved=2ahUKEwi416unxu-JAxXxmokEHQO7IK8QFnoECB8QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2E9QtrXZdrYVGSl41voQZy

Brain Organoid Computers sound.... not great to me, from a moral and philosophical standpoint, but they do seem functional to a degree.

 

[Captain X]

Debian linux internship requirements are now that you are not allowed to be a white man or asian. everyone else welcome.

You'd think that would literally be against the law, but laws don't seem to apply to Leftists for some reason.

 

[Typhonis]

Under a Leftist government, yes. Under the Trump admin? Or is it a company in another country thus not beholden to US Laws?

 

[Bacle]

Yeah, we've started doing that.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/science/articles/10.3389/fsci.2023.1017235/full&ved=2ahUKEwi416unxu-JAxXxmokEHQO7IK8QFnoECB8QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2E9QtrXZdrYVGSl41voQZy

Brain Organoid Computers sound.... not great to me, from a moral and philosophical standpoint, but they do seem functional to a degree.

The people who think AI is no threat do not tend to keep up with the advances in tech that are pushing more and more towards trying to emulate the human brain, up to the point of trying to create 'bio-computers' with neurons in the lab.

These types seem to suddenly forget who Planned Parenthood has been selling baby parts to, and what that sort of...material can be used for, in lab settings.

 

[Rocinante]

The people who think AI is no threat do not tend to keep up with the advances in tech that are pushing more and more towards trying to emulate the human brain, up to the point of trying to create 'bio-computers' with neurons in the lab.

These types seem to suddenly forget who Planned Parenthood has been selling baby parts to, and what that sort of...material can be used for, in lab settings.

It's a combo of naiveté and apparently some religious beliefs.

For those who say we can't create true sapience because it relies on a soul, I say: what does it matter if you create something close enough that you can't tell the difference?

This is the philosophical questions behind say, Data, or Cylons, and whether they're people or not.

Us non religious will never agree with the religious on this one, because we don't agree on the basic foundations of reality.

And this is NOT an insult towards the religious people. I respect them and their beliefs, we just have to realize that we are not going to agree on certain things.

 

[Bassoe]

I’m not concerned with whether it’s actually sentient but whether it’ll be capable of taking my job and defending its masters from unemployment riots.

 

[Typhonis]

If AI wants to wipe out humanity...it doesn't need to launch nukes or release deadly plagues. It just has to hand us everything we want on a silver platter.

 

[mrttao]

If AI wants to wipe out humanity...it doesn't need to launch nukes or release deadly plagues. It just has to hand us everything we want on a silver platter.

speaking of...
another conspiracy theory confirmed.

The company behind pokemon go released a post bragging that their video game is collecting massive amount of phone images to build a CIA backed 3D AI

 

[What's the sitch?]

If you ever believed that these companies didn't have access to your photos, I don't know what to tell you. It doesn't matter how many times they promise or agreements they signed or didn't sign. Best case scenario it only takes one "rogue operative/patsy" to enable to access/use/photo theft and then they will go "whoops, might as well" or come up with some other reason to defend how they will keep going. I just accept that I am too low on the powerscale to fight them in this arena on this and continue on. In this wired world where even homeless people, and even a lot of people in 3rd world countries have smartphones, there is no longer anyway or anywhere to hide, you have to be in power or be too unimportant to notice.

 

[Typhonis]

Big brother doesn't need a telescreen...everyone has a portable one.

 

[Grant Us Eyes]

FTFY. Don't think we've forgotten the Satanic Panic of the 90s. Nobody will forget the people who tried to cancel D&D and Harry Potter by calling them "witchcraft", nor all the cringey Christian books and movies like Left Behind and God's Not Dead.

And as long as I am posting on this server, I won't let you memory hole it.

I'm just gonna quote someone who went into this better than I ever could;

>I look at KiA
>people are once again posting "Satanic Panic" drivel

The PMRC, which is the group that pushed the narrative now known as the "Satanic Panic", was founded by Susan Baker (R) and Sally Nevius (R), and explicitly did not demand censorship of any media for its first two years. Instead, the main demand of this commission was to place PARENTAL ADVISORY stickers on any record that contained "foul language" or "explicit references to sex and violence". Not only did these stickers increase consumer choice/awareness, but they also boosted the sales of any record that sported them, a phenomenon known to the PMRC and publicly approved of in numerous press releases as evidence that "informed consumption of art does not harm free expression". The design of the sticker was specifically chosen to be striking and memorable, and a requirement by the PMRC was that it "not obscure the art on the cover".

The reason you remember the PMRC as a bunch of assholes was that it was taken over by Tipper Gore (D) who began using the name of an organization she did not found to send threatening letters to record executives and demanding that they censor the content of songs if they wanted to be sold in the US (sound familiar?) and then, on top of that, using her husband's (Al Gore, D) authority to summon numerous rock bands to testify before Congress, most notably Twisted Sister. After delivering an embarrassing 20-minute diatribe in favor of censorship, which was apparently so awful it caused numerous ranking committee members to walk out in protest, Gore immediately left the hearing before Twisted Sister was allowed to speak, leaving the two Republican founders of the group, Baker and Nevius, to sit on the receiving end of a nasty dressing-down by Frank Zappa against what Gore had said. Following the atrocious media response to her comments, Gore went on to denounce the PMRC for making those comments (lmao) and collaborate with Joe Libermann (D) and Herb Kohl (D) to try and censor video games.

To this end, she founded "parent activist groups" led by herself (D) and Liebermann (D), who strong-armed video game publishers into allowing "government input" on ESRB ratings to "prevent the spread of stereotypical or violent content".

The only right wing calls to censor video games at this time came from Jack Thompson, an ineffectual joke of a California appellate attorney who was most widely known for filing assault charges against Attorney General Janet Reno (D) for forcibly groping him him and saying he had a tiny penis. Reno went on to become the AG who did Waco. Thompson, for his trouble, was made fun of in GTA2 as "the man with no dick" before he was disbarred by California Governor Jerry Brown (D). Notably, neither Gore nor Liebermann were publicly named or shamed for their efforts to censor music or video games.

As for D&D, which is always brought up when lefties parrot lies about a "Satanic Panic", the most pronounced objection from the religious right came from a certified nut job named Jack Chick, who wrote a very poorly drawn comic about how it was a front for a network of witch covens. WOTC sent free sets to churches and told local game stores in the area to be ready to explain to Christian parents how the game was based on the works of Tolkien. At no point was D&D ever curtailed either in content or reach by the religious right. Ronald Reagan mentioned it in numerous speeches, positively.

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Anyone saying that it was "the right" at any point in modern American history is either an idiot or a liar.

 

[LordsFire]

I'm just gonna quote someone who went into this better than I ever could;

As usual, Christians get blamed for the work of ideological leftists.

Usually, there's a handful of Christians actually involved, but the primary offense is muscled in by authoritarians who then evade accountability, because they're Members In Good Standing of the Elite.

 

[mrttao]

If you ever believed that these companies didn't have access to your photos,

Pokemon go goes way beyond access to your photos. It is a live stream of your phone's camera. Nonstop, globally, in various restricted locations.

Pokemon go was literally funded by the CIA.
Specifically because the CIA wanted to get a bunch of video cameras streaming data to them nonstop. which they used to train their AIs and gather data.
It was all linked to GPS, identities of people, facial recognition, and more. all that data coming together into a massive amount of info for the CIA.

 

[Vyor]

The people who think AI is no threat do not tend to keep up with the advances in tech that are pushing more and more towards trying to emulate the human brain, up to the point of trying to create 'bio-computers' with neurons in the lab.

These types seem to suddenly forget who Planned Parenthood has been selling baby parts to, and what that sort of...material can be used for, in lab settings.

Literally nothing related to computing uses human neurons from babies.

 

[Bacle]

Literally nothing related to computing uses human neurons from babies.

No, but it does use the stem cells to make individual neurons in the lab from early stage abortions.

And this is done with stuff other than human cells too.

 

[mrttao]

Literally nothing related to computing uses human neurons from babies.

here are some randos on youtube ordering off the shelf compontents for neuron computers to try and build a small organic computer


You could literally slot in any neuron source into it.
From mouse neurons to human neurons, they all work.

There are also various published studies that compared the efficiency of various animal neurons, and human neurons, when used in biocomputers. (human neurons are the best)

 

[Vyor]

No, but it does use the stem cells to make individual neurons in the lab from early stage abortions.

No? This is the first I'm hearing of that. Most stem cells are gathered through other methods.

And this is done with stuff other than human cells too.

Well, yes, but we've only just gotten it working with very simple ICs.

 

[Vyor]

here are some randos on youtube ordering off the shelf compontents for neuron computers to try and build a small organic computer


You could literally slot in any neuron source into it.
From mouse neurons to human neurons, they all work.

There are also various published studies that compared the efficiency of various animal neurons, and human neurons, when used in biocomputers. (human neurons are the best)

Yes... but their stem cells aren't from abortions. Haven't been for a while.