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ThatZenoGuy

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Yep, and almost all of the issues stem from the execs at Boeing making decisions to cut corners, and secondary 'optional' sensors, on the design.

They also never actually put the stuff in the manuals to go with the planes, so the pilot's couldn't know.

Now they want to argue that because the deaths were 'painless', Boeing shouldn't have to pay for the 'suffering' of the victims.

That's a whole new level of 'wtf' I would not have believe even Boeing would sink to.
Yup!

IIRC it's all because the airlines and Boeing wanted a cheap upgrade of the then-newest 737 model which was already pushing the limits of a 1960s design instead doing the right thing and starting from scratch to meet the requirements along with all of the expense and hassle which that entails.
Lmao, in a sane world they'd be out of business for this nonsense. Unfortunately we're in clownworld.
 

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Honestly, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the airframe of the 737 MAX, indeed it is better than the equivalent Airbus offerings despite the Airbus A320Neo being far newer. The failure came in the programming of the flight control software, which was outsourced to the same team that managed to screw up OFT-1 for Starliner thanks to incompetent coding. Throw in airlines not bothering to actually pay for the updated sims and training aids, regulators asleep at the switch, and a corrupt chief test pilot, and you had the devil's brew.
 

bintananth

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Honestly, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the airframe of the 737 MAX, indeed it is better than the equivalent Airbus offerings despite the Airbus A320Neo being far newer. The failure came in the programming of the flight control software, which was outsourced to the same team that managed to screw up OFT-1 for Starliner thanks to incompetent coding. Throw in airlines not bothering to actually pay for the updated sims and training aids, regulators asleep at the switch, and a corrupt chief test pilot, and you had the devil's brew.
I agree, the 737 airframe is a good one. The problems are mostly the result of being too cheap and greedy to recognize where the limits reside and stop there.

Unlike those involved in the 737 MAX screw up I don't give a shit about my paycheque. My initials and/or signature will not be on something I'm not OK with.
 

TheRejectionist

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Also it took a bit to find an actual thread on this shite of a site about Lula. The delusion is on par with alternatehistory.com but here they seem to have no illusion that Lula will govern well.


This is even worse

Bolsonarist congresswoman Júlia Zanatta (PL-SC) posts photo with machine gun and incites violence against Lula: "We can't let our guard down." On her blouse, she alludes to the president's hand pierced by three shots.


the replies even here are shit.
 

Zyobot

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I am lost for words.

Interesting that PJW notes how everything post-2015 deserves more scrutiny than the stuff before then, which probably isn’t wrong.

Honestly, though, part of me wonders if the way we feel now is how it felt to a well-adjusted young person circa 1969 who were small children throughout the Fifties and into the early Sixties. That is, while their point of view would’ve no doubt been colored by childhood nostalgia, they’d have still remembered how much more “muted” politics and pop culture were under Eisenhower (1953 to 1961) and JFK (1961 to 1963) than under LBJ (1964 onwards). Not to mention watching their peers go crazy at Woodstock or form something of an “activist-to-terrorist” pipeline to the Weather Underground, only to be taken aback as those got whitewashed or memory-holed retroactively. Kinda’ hard to miss the similarities with the early and late 2010s, now that I think about it — especially since Obama’s first and second terms delineate the two well in “atmosphere”, just as Kennedy’s and Johnson’s presidencies did the Sixties. 🧐
 

gral

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I've seen multiple articles that purport this essentially came from a bunch of executives from the McDonnell-Douglas merger (How Boeing Lost Its Bearings - The Atlantic), talk about a real poison pill!
It started this way, yes(I've seen the Boeing-McDD merger described as 'McDonnell buying Boeing using Boeing's own money'), but these executives are already long gone - these are fruits of the executive culture that allowed McDD's executives to come out on top of the merger.

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Honestly, though, part of me wonders if the way we feel now is how it felt to a well-adjusted young person circa 1969 who were small children throughout the Fifties and into the early Sixties. That is, while their point of view would've no doubt been colored by childhood nostalgia, they'd have still remembered how much more "muted" politics and pop culture were under Eisenhower (1953 to 1961) and JFK (1961 to 1963) than under LBJ (1964 onwards). Not to mention watching their peers go crazy at Woodstock or form something of an "activist-to-terrorist" pipeline to the Weather Underground, only to be taken aback as those got whitewashed or memory-holed retroactively. Kinda' hard to miss the similarities with the early and late 2010s, now that I think about it — especially since Obama's first and second terms delineate the two well in "atmosphere", just as Kennedy's and Johnson's presidencies did the Sixties.

I don't wonder about this anymore, I'm certain of it.
 

Zyobot

Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
Binary... non-binary... "Fred" will taste the same regardless.

...With a nice BBQ sauce. :)

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Sorry, couldn’t resist! 😆
 

Yinko

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Kinda funny really. "You've been with 25 dudes? Ehh not a big deal" vs "you've been with 1 dude and have his kids? Eww, no thanks, pass."
Because it's a reproductive strategy. Some guy impregnating a dozen women once and then using other men to care for his progeny. This competition between different reproductive strategies has been going on for eons, long enough that a distaste is baked into the instincts.
 

Bear Ribs

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It's worth noting that a man who marries a widow and raises her son as his own is treated with respect, as is a man who adopts an orphan and treats them like his own flesh and blood. It's only the very specific circumstance of a woman settling down with Mr. Reliable and making him raise the kids she got from having her fun with Mssrs. Pump and Dump first that's treated scathingly.
 

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