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[The Immortal Watch Dog]

I wonder if they had help from the FBI given how Hoover and Bobby got along.

Then you have the secret service fucking up in Dealy Plaza and possibly accidentally shooting the president.

Did a hungover Secret Service agent accidentally shoot JFK? - The Globe and Mail


So you have two agencies that want a regime change. The third agency screws up big time and goes into Atomic ass covering mode, to the point they violate Texas Law to get Kenedy out of Texas and no autopsy is preformed in Dallas.

The FBI has a long history of either causing atrocities on American soil or knowing about them and doing nothing (Robert Mueller and 9-11) to prevent them. So I wouldn't be surprised at all.

It very much sounds like the bureaucratic classes wanted him dead.

Which I can appreciate- Kennedy was a communist and a piece of shit. Fitting the evil cripple trope just as well as FDR but what I don't appreciate is the total and utter subversion of our Republic and if men like Alex Jones are right. The subversion of our republic.

 

[Aldarion]

Just when I thought that Kanye West couldn't get any worse, he recently came out and said that Hitler only has a bad reputation because Jews control the media.

I generally don't approve of cancel culture but Kanye deserves to be canceled.

Take it from somebody who went through a neo-Nazi (and neo-Communist, and neo---) phase, this is precisely how you create neo-Nazis.

Basically, the logic is that if you are cancelling people, that means you have no arguments to counter their own arguments, and therefore they are correct.

Best way is to counter his claims with arguments. Not because you will convince him, but because you will convince people looking at the debate.

 

[Cherico]

Take it from somebody who went through a neo-Nazi (and neo-Communist, and neo---) phase, this is precisely how you create neo-Nazis.

Basically, the logic is that if you are cancelling people, that means you have no arguments to counter their own arguments, and therefore they are correct.

Best way is to counter his claims with arguments. Not because you will convince him, but because you will convince people looking at the debate.

I'm generally of the opinion that Kanye shows all of the hall marks of some one who is bi polar and has for years. What he did shows all of the characteristics of some one going through a manic phase. What Kayne needs isn't cancelling its a therapist who can find the right drugs to fix his chemical imbalance.

The man needs help not cancelation.

 

[mrttao]

Take it from somebody who went through a neo-Nazi (and neo-Communist, and neo---) phase, this is precisely how you create neo-Nazis.

Basically, the logic is that if you are cancelling people, that means you have no arguments to counter their own arguments, and therefore they are correct.

Best way is to counter his claims with arguments. Not because you will convince him, but because you will convince people looking at the debate.

I am jewish and even I am being convinced that kanya is correct.

I keep on being told there is an overwhelming evidence. where is it? why is the
only response censorship of skeptics instead of presenting some of the mythical evidence that we are not allowed to see?

 

[Skitzyfrenic]

I mean Ye's not entirely wrong. Stalin and Mao and the Japanese Emperor 'did' (Ordered/were party too/whatever) things that were just as awful or possibly worse. There are at least two genocides that the CCP is doing right now, including slave labor concentration camps.

But they're nowhere near as vilified as Hitler.

But Hitler did do two things none of the others did: He targeted Jews, and he targeted Western Europe.

Seriously, how often do you hear about what Hitler did to the Romani? Or the gays? We constantly hear about what he did to France, England, and, most frequently, the Jews.

The GenPop don't care that the Soviets, Maoists, or Japanese killed and raped and pillages and enslaved and put people in camps and made people literally walk to death and starved them to death.

How about the genocides that the Otto-turks are party too? Like the Armenians?

Because that happened in Anatolia, Poland, Ukraine, Central China, Manchuria. Not Western Europe. Because that happened to Armenians, Poles, Kievians, Han Chinese, Koreans, and Manchurians.

Not French people, not Jewish people, not the British.

Ye might be a walking meme generator at this point, but that doesn't make him wrong.

 

[bintananth]

Ye might be a walking meme generator at this point, but that doesn't make him wrong.

When people go out of their way silence someone with an audience said someone is often speaking inconvenient truths they don't wish to hear or see spread.

Apollo cursed Cassandra - a seer whose predictions were always correct - with "No one will ever believe your prophecies."

 

[Aldarion]

I am jewish and even I am being convinced that kanya is correct.

I keep on being told there is an overwhelming evidence. where is it? why is the
only response censorship of skeptics instead of presenting some of the mythical evidence that we are not allowed to see?

I think, as far as Hitler goes, there actually is some evidence... except, if it is presented and people start asking "why", the entire narrative of "evil genocidal ultranationalist dictator" falls apart.

So they rather allow their story about Hitler to have holes than to admit that the reason why Hitler did some of the worst stuff he did was because he was - similar to them. It is more acceptable to have people question whether Hitler was truly genocidal, than to admit that he was genocidal because he was a socialist, and that nationalism/racism/etc. had little or nothing to do with it.

 

[bintananth]

I think, as far as Hitler goes, there actually is some evidence... except, if it is presented and people start asking "why", the entire narrative of "evil genocidal ultranationalist dictator" falls apart.

So they rather allow their story about Hitler to have holes than to admit that the reason why Hitler did some of the worst stuff he did was because he was - similar to them. It is more acceptable to have people question whether Hitler was truly genocidal, than to admit that he was genocidal because he was a socialist, and that nationalism/racism/etc. had little or nothing to do with it.

Hitler did sorta say "I hate Jews and here's what I'm going to do to them if I'm the one in charge" in his book Mein Kampf.

 

[Morphic Tide]

It is more acceptable to have people question whether Hitler was truly genocidal, than to admit that he was genocidal because he was a socialist, and that nationalism/racism/etc. had little or nothing to do with it.

Bit of a correction, his being genocidal was due to Socialist Utopianism, but the targets of that was very much about Nationalism; hence "National Socialism". Almost like loads of Nazi rhetoric was about advertising themselves as the best of both extremes, rejecting the Capitalist/Communist dichotomy in the process.

 

[LordSunhawk]

Bit of a correction, his being genocidal was due to Socialist Utopianism, but the targets of that was very much about Nationalism; hence "National Socialism". Almost like loads of Nazi rhetoric was about advertising themselves as the best of both extremes, rejecting the Capitalist/Communist dichotomy in the process.

Actually it's even simpler than that.

National Socialism actually was the concept that to bring about 'true socialist utopia' in the world that you had to start within each country, rather than create an international movement. National vrs International.

But like all socialist movements, Hitler needed an enemy to blame for the 'failures of capitalism' that required him to be given dictatorial power to correct and bring about the promised land. The Soviet communists were able to easily point at the old aristocracy and then at the small land owning class as the designated villains, and massacred both groups in job lots. Hitler couldn't do the same. The old aristocracy of Germany had far too much influence, especially within the military, for him to directly cross. The small landholders generated too much wealth that he critically needed, so they were out as well. The middle class was out, as they were too numerous, so in the end he had to find a relatively small population that was relatively isolated from everybody else. The Jews fit that bill, as did Gypsies and the other groups he targeted.

 

[mrttao]

Hitler did sorta say "I hate Jews and here's what I'm going to do to them if I'm the one in charge" in his book Mein Kampf.

It was illegal for a jew in israel to ever read mein kampf for most the country's history. And is still illegal in most of the world.
I could never read it growing up because it was illegal for me to do so.

Recently it has been unbanned in israel, and some rabbis have read it and pointed out that "hey, hitler says he hated us because we are a bunch of commies and degenerates who inflict communism and degeneracy on other people".

It really makes you think how history repeats itself. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. I gotta wonder, how long will it take until the jews inflicting communism and degeneracy on the western world create a second hitler.

I wish we could just excommunicate all those degenerate jews. But instead they deplatform me any time I try to say something.

Also hard to link to these rabbi anaylsis because they are also being deplatformed.

 

[bintananth]

It was illegal for a jew in israel to ever read mein kampf for most the country's history. And is still illegal in most of the world.
I could never read it growing up because it was illegal for me to do so.

Recently it has been unbanned in israel, and some rabbis have read it and pointed out that "hey, hitler says he hated us because we are a bunch of commies and degenerates who inflict communism and degeneracy on other people".

It really makes you think how history repeats itself. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. I gotta wonder, how long will it take until the jews inflicting communism and degeneracy on the western world create a second hitler.

I wish we could just excommunicate all those degenerate jews. But instead they deplatform me any time I try to say something.

The US usually does not ban and burn books. What someone has to say may be extremely distasteful but is usually not forbidden to share unless it violates some other aspect of US law like shouting "fire" in a crowded theatre when there isn't a fire.

 

[Aldarion]

Hitler did sorta say "I hate Jews and here's what I'm going to do to them if I'm the one in charge" in his book Mein Kampf.

True, but even his antisemitism is fundamentally connected to his socialism. Much like Karl Marx did, he saw Jews as being inherently morally corrupt and partly responsible for creation of the "rotten capitalism".

Bit of a correction, his being genocidal was due to Socialist Utopianism, but the targets of that was very much about Nationalism; hence "National Socialism". Almost like loads of Nazi rhetoric was about advertising themselves as the best of both extremes, rejecting the Capitalist/Communist dichotomy in the process.

See above, and also what @LordSunhawk wrote.

 

[Captain X]

 

[Captain X]

 

[PsihoKekec]

Orwell based news in Orwell named thread

Thoughtcrime in UK

Earlier this month, Isabel Vaughan-Spruce was standing silently in a public street. She was doing, saying and displaying absolutely nothing, apparently lost in thought. A policeman approached her. He asked if she was inwardly praying. When she said she might have been, he immediately arrested her, took her to a police station and searched her. Last week, Vaughan-Spruce was told she faces prosecution.

Arrested because she might be praying in her mind, UK is really doing it's best to make 1984 a reality. Of course, she is Christian.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

Of course, she is Christian.

The pigs would be a lot more relucant to fuck with christians if we reacted to this the same way Muslims react to anything attacking their faith. People in general would be. Atheists, anti-theists, they'd all shut their mouths and meekly submit to God's Glory.

 

[Zachowon]

The pigs would be a lot more relucant to fuck with christians if we reacted to this the same way Muslims react to anything attacking their faith. People in general would be. Atheists, anti-theists, they'd all shut their mouths and meekly submit to God's Glory.

You mean go against gods will?

 

[Jormungandr]

Orwell based news in Orwell named thread

Thoughtcrime in UK



Arrested because she might be praying in her mind, UK is really doing it's best to make 1984 a reality. Of course, she is Christian.

Fucking disgusting and, IIRC, actually illegal since she was, you know, not actually doing anything. Unless he can prove she was actually planning something (a crime), that officer is basically fucked if she pushes the issue (which she should).

If anything comes of this, such as a well deserved official reprimand, that's basically a career death sentence for him (meaning he'll never rise above his current rank).

Street bobby until death, he quits, or retires.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

Fucking disgusting and, IIRC, actually illegal since she was, you know, not actually doing anything. Unless he can prove she was actually planning something (a crime), that officer is basically fucked if she pushes the issue (which she should).

If anything comes of this, such as a well deserved official reprimand, that's basically a career death sentence for him (meaning he'll never rise above his current rank).

Street bobby until death, he quits, or retires.

It's England, I doubt it will even occur to her that she can fight back against the pig.