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This is my first time doing beach muscle gym training in years, Before that I did MMA training and conditioning which is similar to what that guy in the video is doing.
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This is my first time doing beach muscle gym training in years, Before that I did MMA training and conditioning which is similar to what that guy in the video is doing.
AnimalNoodles
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Good for you. For the record I didn't mean to come off as an asshole with my post even if I did. I tend to do that sometimes. Just saying that dead lifting to the point of almost passing out/passing out can do some bad things to the blood pressure/heart.
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StormEagle
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All muscle can be useful from a metabolic standpoint. The more muscle built means you burn more calories at rest. So from a weight management standpoint, it just makes sense to build muscle where you can.
Also, while many don’t regard aesthetics as useful, it can be useful for the purposes of attraction.
I also think that an aesthetically pleasing physique is worth pursuing for its own sake, whether it’s technically “useful” or not. I like the look of my chest better when I bench, so therefore I bench. Same reason I do push-ups.
It also burns some calories regardless, and the monkey part of my brain likes the “lift heavy thing, put heavy thing down” side of it.
Also, while many don’t regard aesthetics as useful, it can be useful for the purposes of attraction.
I also think that an aesthetically pleasing physique is worth pursuing for its own sake, whether it’s technically “useful” or not. I like the look of my chest better when I bench, so therefore I bench. Same reason I do push-ups.
It also burns some calories regardless, and the monkey part of my brain likes the “lift heavy thing, put heavy thing down” side of it.
Carrot of Truth
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While thats technically true at the time I just didn't care because I was trying to max out and see what I could do.
Very true.
Just emphasizing that from an athletic standpoint, excess chest muscle is a metabolic and cardiovascular drain. With the exception of football linemen and sumo wrestlers of course; they need that muscle to, well, push things...
but for almost everything else athletic, posterior chain is everything.
Blasterbot
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I've lost 40 pounds just eating less since I started working nights again back at the end of august. need to actually start doing a work out plan. main issue is I work 4 12 hour days then got 4 days off. going to need to build a slightly weird schedule because of it.
Even if you work a physical job that does not allow you any time at all during those four working days; on the four off days you can work out every one of those days if you mix it up. or maybe take the first off day off because you might be sore from working and need a recovery; and then run the next day - a warm up run of, say a half mile or so, then go into a little more high intensity maybe a few sprints when you are warmed up, and then run a few miles after that at a pretty good pace. the day after that, do strength stuff/lifting. and then the last day before you go back to work, swim. it will work different muscles than the previous two days and a great cardio workout to boot. perfect thing to do before starting a new work week.
Carrot of Truth
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That fatass in the red shirt is one of the most disgusting and repugnant wastes of space to ever exist. His parents should have gotten an abortion, The world would be a better place if they spared us that worthless pigs existence.
bintananth
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Might I suggest ballet dancing as an alternative? Some NFL football players practice it as part of their training regimen ...
Why Football Players Take Ballet! - FOCUS Dance Center
I know it is hard to believe, but YES Football players and many other athletes take ballet and dance.
focusdancecenter.com
Blasterbot
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mildly physical. on the days I work I should probably incorporate a stretching routine either yoga or tai chi so long as I can do it in under an hour. on that first day off my feet hate me as 4 12 hour days on concrete floors is not fun. could probably do an upper body focused day there though.
bintananth
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I am a nearly 6'0" tall double amputee. I do not walk without shoes. I have to tell people that I only have 4.5 toes.
Might I suggest ballet dancing as an alternative? Some NFL football players practice it as part of their training regimen ...
Why Football Players Take Ballet! - FOCUS Dance Center
I know it is hard to believe, but YES Football players and many other athletes take ballet and dance.
Vasiliy Lomachenko is well known for having done traditional Ukrainian dance before he even began boxing as a child. that is the equivalent of learning a language when you are still like 3 or 4 years old and it becomes native and second nature to you; in this case, balance and footwork.
AnimalNoodles
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Depends on what you mean. Alot of people think that the muscles built by bodybuilders are weaker in some way than the exact muscles built by a powerlifter..which is wrong. muscle is muscle. Powerlifters tend to lift more, but thats not because of some magical quality in their muscles.
But if you are talking about muscles built for an aesthetic reason, then yeah..huge pecs and rippling abs are "beach muscles"
Strength training and body building can be quite different, but there's a ton of overlap.
You can find some really strong dudes that don't look very muscular. They're not doing enough time under tension to stimulate optimal hypertrophy. They'll still build muscle, though.
On the other hand, people with big muscles who focus purely on hypertrophy, are still going to build strength.
In either of these situations, both guys are going to end up more both musclular and stronger than the general population.
There's a ton of overlap, it's really about where you want to focus.
There's seemingly a movement in the power lifting community where they do everything they can to not look like a body builder. It's kinda weird tbh.
Personally, as of late, I like training for hypertrophy better. It's easier on my joints than strength training. And I want to look good. I spent a few years doing strength training though, and I built quite a bit of muscle during that time, too.
I don't believe gaining any significant muscle is beneficial, period. including in most athletic contexts. And this is coming from someone who has weighed 290 plus pounds at one point muscled up like Carnera which is the max amount of muscle to be athletic at and still have reasonable cardio (without PEDs of course):
But the body is healthier being skinnier. or less muscle and fat i should say. I do put on ten or fifteen pounds intentionally before the start of every winter though as it does help keep warm. but otherwise? as long as I am strong enough to fight and lift basic things - anything from tools to equipment to lumber and stones - and handle weapons, that is all that matters to me. and my frame provides that strength. not to mention I do not need to eat anywhere near as much food as I had to eat when I was carrying more muscle. I am ready to fight...but also to survive a famine if need be. which i should mention as to surviving a famine: if anything, a little bit of extra fat on the body is much more valuable than a little bit of extra muscle. i'm confident you all know that but I figured i'd say it anyways.
ask yourself: how did these men work out
they ran; they swam; they threw spears/javelins; they wrestled and maybe boxed; and sometimes lifted lumber and stones. and other weapons training.
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I'd even go as far as to say the entire fitness and dating industry is a psy op made to make men (and women) insecure in various ways about their appearance. From height, to muscle, to hair, to even the bone structure of the face/jaw and things like hand size - I have dead ass seen men worrying about their hand and foot size - it's all so obsessive. imagine a man from a century ago worrying about what people thought about his jawline or foot size
does this man look like he gives a fuck about the size of his muscles, foot size, jawline, etc? that is all modern psy op bullshit made to make men - and women - worry about everything and think they are not good enough. because worried and stressed out people are both easily manipulated and easy to make a profit off of.
does this man look like he gives a fuck about the size of his muscles, foot size, jawline, etc? that is all modern psy op bullshit made to make men - and women - worry about everything and think they are not good enough. because worried and stressed out people are both easily manipulated and easy to make a profit off of.
Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
I'd even go as far as to say the entire fitness and dating industry is a psy op made to make men (and women) insecure in various ways about their appearance. From height, to muscle, to hair, to even the bone structure of the face/jaw and things like hand size - I have dead ass seen men worrying about their hand and foot size - it's all so obsessive. imagine a man from a century ago worrying about what people thought about his jawline or foot size
does this man look like he gives a fuck about the size of his muscles, foot size, jawline, etc? that is all modern psy op bullshit made to make men - and women - worry about everything and think they are not good enough. because worried and stressed out people are both easily manipulated and easy to make a profit off of.
Guy is probably about 150 pounds
bintananth
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I was about 160 on an ER scale last week. That's underweight for someone just a touch under 6'0".