Finland's and Sweden's NATO accession following thread.

Tyzuris said:
Finnish NATO application was just ratified by the Hungarian parliament at clear 182-6 majority leaving Turkish parliament the only one left.
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How is the Swedish application going?
If Sweden could be turned, it would become a powerful ally.
strunkenwhite said:
Finland is certainly the one we should least want to have hanging in limbo, since it's the one with an actual extensive border with Russia.
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A border 250km from the city centre of Sankt Peterburg ...
 
Buba said:
How is the Swedish application going?
If Sweden could be turned, it would become a powerful ally.
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The Turkish leadership is still halting Swedish application due to political reasons related to Kurdish organizations acting in Sweden, etc... and the Turks and Hungarians move in lockstep in these matters (as Hungary wants to help Turkey avoid the pressure of being the sole party still left to ratify and share the pressure), so the moment Turks give in to Sweden, the Hungarians will as well as we saw in Finland's case. Although since Sweden is EU's chairman till July, it's also likely Hungarians are also trying to extort frozen EU subsidies to be unfrozen (which have been frozen due to problematic evolution of rule of law, freedom of press and corruption developments in Hungary until they fix said developments with legislation, etc...).
 
Cherico said:
The fins are the more valuable of the two.
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Buba said:
How is the Swedish application going?
If Sweden could be turned, it would become a powerful ally.


A border 250km from the city centre of Sankt Peterburg ...
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Actually, current NATO borders are about 70km from St. Petersburg already. The main thing that makes Finland attractive (besides Sanna Marin) is that they are astride the only road and rail link between St. Pete & Moscow on the one hand and the military bases (air and naval) and the Plesetsk cosmodrome on the other.

Sweden’s main additions are 1) guaranteeing secure comms between the Baltic states (including Finland) and Poland on the one hand with the rest of NATO on the other (NATO already has a huge comms nexus at Gotland but now it’d be NATO turf officially); 2) Sweden and Gotland in particular are the key to ensuring control of the Baltic, and being able to rapidly reinforce the Baltic republics by going straight across is a huge plus; and 3) means NATO can very easily cut off Kaliningrad from the rest of Russia -and hit the thing with cruise missiles if shit gets real.

I wouldn’t say Finland is “more valuable” than Sweden since each brings different strengths to the table; Russia would probably go completely batshit if we parked a division or two there…and while they’d bitch about us doing the same with Sweden, the latter means that they can’t bitch about us being right on their border.
 
And today Hungarian president Katalin Novak signed the ratification of Finland into NATO into legal force, and Hungarian foreign minister confirmed to our foreign minister that Hungary will deposit the Hungarian ratification of Finland to NATO to the US state department vaults on Friday.

Now it's only a matter of waiting how fast Turkey will handle this.
 
Airedale260 said:
Actually, current NATO borders are about 70km from St. Petersburg already. The main thing that makes Finland attractive (besides Sanna Marin) is that they are astride the only road and rail link between St. Pete & Moscow on the one hand and the military bases (air and naval) and the Plesetsk cosmodrome on the other.

Sweden’s main additions are 1) guaranteeing secure comms between the Baltic states (including Finland) and Poland on the one hand with the rest of NATO on the other (NATO already has a huge comms nexus at Gotland but now it’d be NATO turf officially); 2) Sweden and Gotland in particular are the key to ensuring control of the Baltic, and being able to rapidly reinforce the Baltic republics by going straight across is a huge plus; and 3) means NATO can very easily cut off Kaliningrad from the rest of Russia -and hit the thing with cruise missiles if shit gets real.

I wouldn’t say Finland is “more valuable” than Sweden since each brings different strengths to the table; Russia would probably go completely batshit if we parked a division or two there…and while they’d bitch about us doing the same with Sweden, the latter means that they can’t bitch about us being right on their border.
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Russia reminds me of some triggered spoiled bratty teenager, who bitches about everything.
 
Tyzuris said:
The Turkish Parliament just ratified Finland's NATO application. Now we only need Erdogan to sign the ratification papers and our NATO membership will begin.
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We're going to find out soon enough because I think Erdogan will give the Ok for Finland to joining NATO.

Finland: Congratulations on joining NATO! Take that Triggered Vlad!
 
Tyzuris said:
The Turkish Parliament just ratified Finland's NATO application. Now we only need Erdogan to sign the ratification papers and our NATO membership will begin.
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I don't see why not the Finn's haven't gotten into Turkish business like the sweeds have so letting them in doesn't risk a loss of face
 
49ersfootball said:
Congratulations on becoming the 31st member of NATO Finland. Now we're awaiting Sweden on becoming the 32nd!
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Sweden might not happen, fact is the Finns didn't get involved in Turkey's personal business like the Sweeds have and havent soured relations like the Sweeds have based on woke points.

Just getting Finland is honestly a coup and really all we need to completely shut the russians down in the baltics.
 
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