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Devastator said:
Because... It's impossible. The envelopes and ballots are no longer connected. Per Georgia law, to preserve secrecy, once the signature is verified, the ballot is separated from the signed outer envelope.
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Just to clarify for everyone, the current procedures for Georgia absentee ballots already require two seperate signature verifications.

A signature verification is performed when a voter requests an absentee ballot, comparing the written signature on the absentee ballot application with the signature recorded in voter registration.

A second signature verification is then performed when the absentee ballot is returned, comparing the written signature on the outer envelope to the signature in the voter registration *before* the ballot is removed from the outer envelope and counted.

A third signature verification is *not possible* because the ballot is no longer connected to the outer envelope.

The "consent decree" referenced by President Trump and several others does not bar signature verification; what it does is set consistent statewide standards for signature comparison, and also set a consistent statewide standard for how signature mismatches , i.e. they are required to contact the voter and inform them of the mismatch so that they have an opportunity to "cure" the ballot by providing identity verification via ID.
 
ShadowArxxy said:
Just to clarify for everyone, the current procedures for Georgia absentee ballots already require two seperate signature verifications.

A signature verification is performed when a voter requests an absentee ballot, comparing the written signature on the absentee ballot application with the signature recorded in voter registration.

A second signature verification is then performed when the absentee ballot is returned, comparing the written signature on the outer envelope to the signature in the voter registration *before* the ballot is removed from the outer envelope and counted.

A third signature verification is *not possible* because the ballot is no longer connected to the outer envelope.

The "consent decree" referenced by President Trump and several others does not bar signature verification; what it does is set consistent statewide standards for signature comparison, and also set a consistent statewide standard for how signature mismatches , i.e. they are required to contact the voter and inform them of the mismatch so that they have an opportunity to "cure" the ballot by providing identity verification via ID.
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A lot of the controversy around the signature matching revolves around claims that it was not done is the first place, thus asking for it to be done again. That the system in place does not allow for that and the outer envelopes were intentionally destroyed is also a major source of complaint.

Basically it’s decently known that you cannot easily signature match, which was contrary to earlier claims about absentee and mail in ballots in general, and the whole point of the law suits is to point out that they are impossible to verify. Seemly by design, to more easily enable fraud.

It’s a rhetorical statement when it comes right down to it.
 
It enables a secret ballot as well. And these are the rules that were set by the Republican controlled legislature. Its not like the Democrats got to set these rules and these have been in place for a while.
 
They already certified the results for President, so there is no impact there.
All that order currently does is prevent certification of the downballot races, which means PA has no state House nor half a state Senate in about five days.
The case in which the injunction was issued is based on PA Act 77, which was passed well before the election. As a result, the state Legislature, Governor, and SoS have all requested dismissal on multiple grounds.
 
Devastator said:
They already certified the results for President, so there is no impact there.
All that order currently does is prevent certification of the downballot races, which means PA has no state House nor half a state Senate in about five days.
The case in which the injunction was issued is based on PA Act 77, which was passed well before the election. As a result, the state Legislature, Governor, and SoS have all requested dismissal on multiple grounds.
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Yeah, it's why certification was rushed out so fast (apparently they even left some steps out while doing so). They wanted to get the certification out before they got stopped. Which doesn't leave a good image for anyone watching.
 
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