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Will the Secret Service get into a gunfight with FBI officers for Trump after he is out of office?
It would never get even close to that point.


I just expect the Secret Service to be told by their paymasters to no longer protect him, infact they are to hold him for FBI or whatever.

And of course thats only if arrests happen. I don't expect anything to happen. This will leave the leftists seething.
They can't, those protections are legally guaranteed under 18 U.S. Code § 3056.
 
I hope that we can prove massive voter fraud in the next few weeks and that Trump can pull out a victory. At this point, that seems really unlikely. We need to be prepared for president Biden, because it’s the most likely outcome.
You mean President Harris.

Biden is a puppet.

They can't, those protections are legally guaranteed under 18 U.S. Code § 3056.
Which just serves my point that nothing will happen. We can have that for some entertainment. "NO!!!!!!!!!! I want Drumpf in Prison!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
 
@Lord Invictus dude stop. You are literally the kind of person right now that the left wants us to be.



Also I am not here to see doom or anything like that. I am here to see things about the election.
You know if leftists on other forums quote this thread, they will quote the posts saying that conservatives should lie while they ignore the posts arguing against lies.
What you guys fail to realize is that the left and liberals believe that right wingers and republicans already lie and have always been lying + the usual buzzword nonsense. Their response? Double down on their tactics and be better at it.

You guys are still trapped in this nonsense of needing to try and prove to the left that you are not liars or that you are not racist. The Left believes that you are these things inherently and you can never prove otherwise.

@LifeisTiresome please stop encouraging here.
Ok, I like you Zachowon so I'll do as you ask.
 
Eh, being an annoying doomer twat giving bad advice doesn't help the right either. He's just being a self angrizing doomer trying to show how edgy he is while saying how he's beyond caring. This is basically why I've decided to just ignore him at this point because he doesn't even really have anything relavent to say. Its edge purely for the point of edgyness, basically trolling at this point.
 
@ShieldWife
@Zachowon

To be more accurate, you can sort of prove to the left that you are not a liar or a racist by submitting to the left and doing everything they want and believing and advocating for everything they want. I say sort of cause if you are white, you are still racist. So you need to work harder and keep doing penance by doing the already mentioned even more harder.

Eh, being an annoying doomer twat giving bad advice doesn't help the right either. He's just being a self angrizing doomer trying to show how edgy he is while saying how he's beyond caring. This is basically why I've decided to just ignore him at this point because he doesn't even really have anything relavent to say. Its edge purely for the point of edgyness, basically trolling at this point.
I hope you mean @Lord Invictus as he is the doomer and the depressed one. I'm just making observations and doing commentary.
 
You know if leftists on other forums quote this thread, they will quote the posts saying that conservatives should lie while they ignore the posts arguing against lies.

The problem is that they'll claim we lie anyways, with or without proof. They'll say all of the most awful things about us. So it isn't really as big of a problem as you make it out to be.

What is the question, if we want to sink to their level and become like them or do we want to at least retain some semblance of standards.
 
@ShieldWife

I'm quite confused by your post. You have made posts that made me believe that you have realized the lie about racism accusations the left throw and yet then say we need to be careful about being called liars by the left?
 
@ShieldWife

I'm quite confused by your post. You have made posts that made me believe that you have realized the lie about racism accusations the left throw and yet then say we need to be careful about being called liars by the left?
I don’t care about trying to prove to the left that we aren’t racists or liars, they will think that we are both anyway and will lie about us anyway. However, I don’t think that we should actually be liars. We shouldn’t compromise our principles or humble ourselves trying to prove we’re not bad to the left, I strongly believe that, I also believe that we shouldn’t in fact be bad.

There is no contradiction there. My previous post was just saying that the left would selectively pick our posts to represent us.
 
I don’t care about trying to prove to the left that we aren’t racists or liars, they will think that we are both anyway and will lie about us anyway. However, I don’t think that we should actually be liars. We shouldn’t compromise our principles or humble ourselves trying to prove we’re not bad to the left, I strongly believe that, I also believe that we shouldn’t in fact be bad.

There is no contradiction there. My previous post was just saying that the left would selectively pick our posts to represent us.

I agree, we need to avoid compromising our principles as much as possible. We are not like them, we do not lack principle, nor do we have the win at all costs mentality. We are not power hungry like them. And we must avoid becoming like them as much as possible.

And fuck them, they'll lie either way. They'll find something to misrepresent.
 


Well, can't expect anything different when the left is willing to dox their information and threaten their homes. Typical terrorist bullshit. A pity these Republicans didn't have any stones. I'd have personally gunned down any home invaders or terrorists who crossed onto my lawn. Hell, I'd make a bump stock if my life depended upon it. Our politicians should never bow to terrorist threats. They should be ready to lay down their lives for the constitution.

But let's set that matter aside.

Remind me Xilizhra...the left's claim is that the constitution is a living document, right? That it changes with the growth of society?

I'm thinking that regardless of how this goes, the Republicans should go full press. Gay marriage, abortion, DACA...all of it needs to go before the SCOTUS. I'm not even a Republican and this is beyond the pale. There can be no forgiveness for this. It should be a full on press against the left for this atrocity.
 
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You know if leftists on other forums quote this thread, they will quote the posts saying that conservatives should lie while they ignore the posts arguing against lies.

Hence, as I said, the only utility he has at this point, is to his ideological enemies. He is the fraction of a percent that the left will hold up and try to claim that all of the right is like.

I agree that the Right's methodology has long needed changing. I do not agree with taking up immoral methodology to do so. There is no need to lie about the left, just tell the truth openly, rather than sugar-coating it to be 'polite.'

Biden has repeatedly lied and contradicted himself.

Kamala Harris committed offenses as AG of CA that should have had her in prison, rather than the Senate.

Anyone who supports socialism is either ignorant, or supports genocide. If you get to the point of running for office and still supporting it, your ignorance loses any faint veneer of excusability it may have had, and you are openly campaigning for millions to die. Socialism is Slavery.

Part of why Trump has been so successful, is because he was willing to tell it like it is, and that's something that the right in general needs to be willing to adept, even if they could best do it more adeptly than Trump.
 
Eh, being an annoying doomer twat giving bad advice doesn't help the right either. He's just being a self angrizing doomer trying to show how edgy he is while saying how he's beyond caring. This is basically why I've decided to just ignore him at this point because he doesn't even really have anything relavent to say. Its edge purely for the point of edgyness, basically trolling at this point.
Everything I say is the truth, you will find no dishonesty in me.

I'm not edgy for edgy's sake. I simply believe in giving accurate prognoses.

It doesn't help a cancer patient to be told a warm story of how remission is certain in a few weeks, when he has but six months to live.

That's my philosophy, uncompromising honesty. Lying or dishonesty is a tool, not an action. I believe folks on the right should when speaking amongst themselves, be unfailingly honest, even to the point it depresses them.
 
What you guys fail to realize is that the left and liberals believe that right wingers and republicans already lie and have always been lying + the usual buzzword nonsense. Their response? Double down on their tactics and be better at it.

You guys are still trapped in this nonsense of needing to try and prove to the left that you are not liars or that you are not racist. The Left believes that you are these things inherently and you can never prove otherwise.

Ok, I like you Zachowon so I'll do as you ask.
I also don't think this is the thread for this.
@ShieldWife
@Zachowon

To be more accurate, you can sort of prove to the left that you are not a liar or a racist by submitting to the left and doing everything they want and believing and advocating for everything they want. I say sort of cause if you are white, you are still racist. So you need to work harder and keep doing penance by doing the already mentioned even more harder.


I hope you mean @Lord Invictus as he is the doomer and the depressed one. I'm just making observations and doing commentary.
Let's take this to another thread
 


This is a very good take on what establishment forces are aligning to do, and what their goal is.


Won't work that way. There are greater forces here at play than what the elites do. I can't tell you how stupid they've been in pulling this. And that stupidity was fueled by desperation. This is not the strategy of what someone who is winning does. Nor will it work, long term. They cannot govern with their party. People like AOC are already looking to expand their own internal conflicts.

Biden will be ineffectual.
 
Won't work that way. There are greater forces here at play than what the elites do. I can't tell you how stupid they've been in pulling this. And that stupidity was fueled by desperation. This is not the strategy of what someone who is winning does. Nor will it work, long term. They cannot govern with their party. People like AOC are already looking to expand their own internal conflicts.

Biden will be ineffectual.

So you are saying these are the last terrible thrashes in the death of a great beast?
 
Won't work that way. There are greater forces here at play than what the elites do. I can't tell you how stupid they've been in pulling this. And that stupidity was fueled by desperation. This is not the strategy of what someone who is winning does. Nor will it work, long term. They cannot govern with their party. People like AOC are already looking to expand their own internal conflicts.

Biden will be ineffectual.
I agree, it won't work long term; but that will be cold comfort when we all end up having to pay the consequences, assuming the Dems manage to succeed in their short term goal of getting Biden and Harris into the White House. They will do everything in their power to drag everyone else down with them.
 

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