Duke Nukem
Hail to the king baby
Damned if you do, Damned if you don't.
Election 2020 Election 2020: It's (almost) over! (maybe...possibly...ahh who are we kidding, it's 2020!)
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Damned if you do, Damned if you don't.
ShieldWife
Marchioness
Does the war time boost even work if the media is completely against you? Really, if the media in the 1940's hated FDR as much as the modern media hates Trump, the USA would probably have withdrawn from WW2 in 1942 and paid reparations to the Axis.
The Problem is he didn't get one from Europe as well, at least at first. The Virus ended up missing us from China, spread to Europe and then came into the US From Italy where it hit New York and then spread from there.
Trump did the best he could and I don't think anyone would have done any better. This thing was coming to us one way or another. Your politics be damned.
Bear Ribs
Well-known member
I don't think there's any way he could have swung a Europe ban at the same time, he was undergoing impeachment at the time (recall that wouldn't be finished until February) and that was sapping a lot of Washington's attention and political power. He would have needed a much more united DC to manage a Europe ban.
Imagine what the election would be like if the media didn't give the democrats a free pass and carry their water.
Airedale260
Well-known member
Actually it was Pelosi overplaying her hand. She thought she'd have an issue for her vulnerable members to run on, and when McConnell balked, she tried to do an end-run through Mnuchin and still lost.
At this point I don't think anyone believes the press is truly objective anymore. Hasn't been for decades.
As it is, Trump still came close in the margins. What really did him in wasn't so much bungling the COVID response as it was picking stupid fights at press conferences, shitting all over anyone who disagreed with him and left the administration, and then making things about him personally (when many people can't stand him) as opposed to his accomplishments (which actually were overall good).
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
The media themselves say it'd be worth fifteen points in the votes. Which, of course, would flip just about every state and the majority of offices red.
LifeisTiresome
Well-known member
Nick Fuentes is telling his followers to turn on the GOP completely and utterly even if it costs the GOP the Senate cause of Georgia.
Will this succeed? Who knows. But very well that any votes that would normally going to GOP cannot be counted on anymore if possible. So those who said the GOP won the important shit may well be prove wrong.
GOP delenda est, basically.
Will this succeed? Who knows. But very well that any votes that would normally going to GOP cannot be counted on anymore if possible. So those who said the GOP won the important shit may well be prove wrong.
GOP delenda est, basically.
Considering the shit they did to US Citizens during the 50s, 60, and 70s. They are worst than ONI and the ones that did that shit should have been tried for treason.
Is he looney?!!! He's proposing giving the Senate to the dems purely to spite the establishment, and bottom line that hurts the common man more than anything else!
Why on earth would you want to give the Dems full control of Congress leaving us with only the SC?!!! Especially when doing so gives the dems power to nullify even that advantage via court packing!!!
LifeisTiresome
Well-known member
Watch the video.
Fundamentally, its running of the idea that the GOP are conservatives in name only and don't seriously oppose the Left and don't give their base anything in return but demand votes. Voting for the GOP on the idea of preventing things from getting worse is nonsense as things get worse anyway.
A position I believe too in the sense that the GOP is useless and not conservative and I agree with this but I say that most so called conservative parties in the West are not really conservative anyway.
D
Deleted member 88
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I think the argument is that the GOP doesn't do enough for White People, so White people should abandon it.
Its the same reasoning Spencer used in his trolling rollin with Biden tweets.
I think the issue for that, is that most White people, even conservative ones don't think in terms of race or racial interest as far as their own identity goes. At least not explicitly. Much less their voting choices.
The GOP is however not the party of CRT and virulent Anti-Whiteism. So I think it would be unwise for White folks to abandon it because it takes them for granted. Which it does.
Because I can assure you Woke-ism under Kamala Harris will implement the intersectional karma pyramid, @AnimalNoodles has elaborated on, and it will do it with zeal.
(which leads to accelerationist arguments like, "white people will only wake up when the boot is firmly on their necks and join us"), which shows the immaturity and tactical stupidity of WNs in general, as accelerationism is just dumb and has never worked for any movement, right, left or center that thought it would in their favor.
Its the same reasoning Spencer used in his trolling rollin with Biden tweets.
I think the issue for that, is that most White people, even conservative ones don't think in terms of race or racial interest as far as their own identity goes. At least not explicitly. Much less their voting choices.
The GOP is however not the party of CRT and virulent Anti-Whiteism. So I think it would be unwise for White folks to abandon it because it takes them for granted. Which it does.
Because I can assure you Woke-ism under Kamala Harris will implement the intersectional karma pyramid, @AnimalNoodles has elaborated on, and it will do it with zeal.
(which leads to accelerationist arguments like, "white people will only wake up when the boot is firmly on their necks and join us"), which shows the immaturity and tactical stupidity of WNs in general, as accelerationism is just dumb and has never worked for any movement, right, left or center that thought it would in their favor.
LifeisTiresome
Well-known member
The argument can be made that such oppression is good as it will wake people the fuck up to reality.
Even if you are not one to think in terms of race or whatever, supporting mainstream conservative parties is for the most part a massive waste of time as they have not succeeded in anything relating to social issues. GOP have victories in terms of guns but I have already explained many times before about the guns and their use.
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
For fucking what?
The Alt-Right has yet to present a viable alternative, indeed being more interested in internet beef and raking in those YouTube views instead of forming an actual political party that could represent what a fair few would like to be represented. Until they or the Classical Liberals can get off their arses and do something, the GOP is the best the American right have at the moment.
Tyzuris
Primarch to your glory& the glory of him on Earth!
I think one challenge for whites to think of how certain party / politician could do well for whites is that whites do not have the same historical, cultural etc... background as African Americans who were all brought to America as slaves, or Latins who are coming from similar cultural and religious backgrounds.
"White" can be someone with German, Polish, French, Tzech, Latvian, Finnish, Norwegian, etc... background, so descendants of whites may more identify as let's say Polish-Latvian Americans in their heritage.
"White" can be someone with German, Polish, French, Tzech, Latvian, Finnish, Norwegian, etc... background, so descendants of whites may more identify as let's say Polish-Latvian Americans in their heritage.
Ever watch the Movie Clear and Present Danger? That movie turned CIA Bullshit and made it look like petty office tyrants causing international incidents and minor wars as just another day in the office.
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Deleted member 88
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Will it? Or will it lead to White people just giving up, surrendering and trying to get by?
Fuentes and Spencer think that somehow Dem one party rule will awaken White racial consciousness, when while yes-that process is happening, the intersectional boot and the real consequences of being its dalits will hurt White folks who speak out the most.
Accelerationist "fuck them the heel will wake them up" thinking has never fucking worked. Ever. For any political movement.
The Destruction of the GOP doesn't mean a new party will emerge to oppose the insanities of Woke-ism even rhetorically, it just means the Dems and Anti Whites will have full reign without even controlled opposition.
Um...a party that isn't Zionist and uh talks about White interests explicitly or something. No one ever accused WNs of having developed ideas of political praxis and programme beyond "pander to us explicitly on racial grounds".
lordmcdeath
Well-known member
Ah, the moment when you realize you're sharing a fox hole with someone who doesn't exactly have their helmet on straight and seems to be shopping for their uniforms at Clowns R Us. God knows I've had enough of those over the years. When your reaction to your nominal ally is to treat them like your idiot kid brother, including the dope slap and firm instruction to stop "helping". God as my witness, I've got enough of those on my side to not have enough time in the day.