Carrot of Truth
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Be pretty funny if we can suddenly make interstellar trips overnight because the equivalent of alien teenagers were going on a joyride and wrecked.
United States Craft of 'Non-Human Origin' Have Been Retrieved by the US DoD and Others for 80 Years, Congressional UAP Whistleblower Reports Confirm.
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I'm becoming more convinced by Graham Hancock's idea that humanity used to actually be far, far more advanced, and that we lost that knowledge during the Younger Dryas period.
It would explain the claims from UFOlogists, that we recovered the original "alien" craft in an Archeological dig.
Maybe that did really happen, but they were just finding ancient human tech?
Not sure. We don't have proof that ever happened so this is just hypothetical.
What we do have proof of, is that UFOs are real, documented, and widespread. Also, our government and (non deep-black) military have no fucking clue what they are.
Maybe it's aliens. I refuse to make that claim until I see proof.
I find it more believable that we have been suppressing technology for 100 years, because everyone in the know has a lot of power and money to lose by destroying the current energy systems we have in place.
This even explains why rival countries like Russia, China, and the US even all keep the secret. They might not all het along, but their power structures are build around the fossil fuel and renewable fuel industries. A power source that can do this kind of shit would destroy that system.
Typhonis
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Well you have all sorts of weird unexplained shit around the world and you even have evidence for ancient civilizations that mainstream archeology tends to avoid. Hell you would think the Vatican would offer funds to investigate the ruins off the coast of Cuba or the Eye of the Sahara. But no, they don't. Even though there are signs of flooding in the Sahara 12K years ago
DarthOne
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The Cuban ‘ruins’ are far, far too deep under the ocean to have been man-made. Also, you’ve got a ‘face on Mars’ situation here. The sonar readings don’t show enough clear-cut details, so you’re left with people seeing what they want to see.
As for the Sahara, maybe my internet-fu is weak, but all I could find related to the Sahara and flooding or similar was a proposed mega-project to flood it or stuff about how dust from the desert is effecting the climate.
Randall Carlson talks a lot about the evidence of massive flooding world wide during the Younger Dryas period.
I strongly suspect that there was a civilization before the younger dryas but I don't think it was a hyper tech one, but I do think they most likely had ships and the pre cursor to bronze age technology.
Yeah, that's just a fun thing to think about. I suspect they were far more advanced than people think they were, but them having space ships is just me connecting dots using my Sci fi oriented brain.
It's just fun to think about, seeing as some of the claims were that some recovered craft were ancient Archeological finds.
That claim may very well be full of shit, I haven't seen any proof. But if it's not, it's possible that ancient humans are responsible rather than aliens.
It's also possible that due to tech we don't understand, interstellar travel isn't as hard as we imagine it to be, and aliens have been visiting us for a long, long time.
My money is still on it being black projects until I see proof otherwise. I say this as someone who really wants to believe they're aliens, and I do not think we are alone in the universe. But I need proof before I say it's aliens.
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
This is most likely if there was a civilisation that predates the Sumerians by six thousand years plus.
Which shouldn’t understate the significance. If we found a Bronze Age level civilisation that existed over twelve thousand years ago, it shakes our knowledge of history to the core. And explains the myth of Atlantis (although I think that one is more likely Classical Greece’s foggy memory of the Minoans).
Batrix2070
RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
It's more of a sucker's bet. I remembered a while ago that there was a "UFO appearance" in Gdynia in 1959.
According to reports, quoting from Polskie Radio:
The object was heading towards the bay at a high rate of speed. Another person who spotted it was Jan Blok, a Gdynia dockworker working on loading cargo onto a ship. As he later testified, he first spotted a red spot, which then - as it approached - expanded into a blinding, "bright flash in the form of a cone about 1.5 meters in diameter and about 4 meters long." The phenomenon flew over him, making a sound "resembling the sound of a sheet metal," and disappeared into the depths of the bay.
The military later fished out a small fragment of metal of unknown origin. It was heavily corroded and consisted mostly of iron but analysis of the material found aluminum, magnesium and silicon.
According to some accounts, a half-dead pilot in a metallic suit was said to have been found crawling on one of Gdynia's beaches.
The description of the situation and what happens leads me to conclude that this UFO was actually one of the American "reconnaissance saucers" which suffered a nasty damage to its propulsion system and the pilot catapulted himself at the last moment before the plane crashed into the Gdansk Bay, but seriously injured he barely managed to get to the beach.
The matter was of interest to the Polish Academy of Sciences, but the case was quickly hushed up. Therefore, I doubt that what Russians do not know that Americans such machines, after all, the People's Republic of Poland was a satellite of the USSR, so it would be difficult to take for themselves what was found and interrogate the pilot themselves.
Batrix2070
RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
It has always been there, was no one surprised that writing was invented so recently? Barely 6,000 years ago! The history of mankind, pardon Homo Sapiens is much longer but it was only about 6,000 years ago that writing was created and the known history began.
I find it hard to believe that it took Homo Sapiens as long as about 294 thousand years to develop a way to write, build civilizations, etc.
Six thousand years, that's how long it took to build our civilization, if you measure this entire period of HS prehistory it means that we should have built and ruined a civilization with the same time period as us 48 times.
Academia right now is incredibly arrogant and quite a few people are more interested in looking like their right instead of looking for the actual truth.
In Hindu mythology we have advanced cyvilization fighting some kind of war.
They even had there some kind of UFO.
When I start making up Sci fi theories, I like to imagine that we had a hyper advanced civilization before the younger dryas period, like Graham Hancock theorizes, and that the younger dryas period was actually an alien attack. They sent rocks on a course to earth to wipe them out.
This is just me writing sloppy fiction, but fun to think about.
Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
Feels appropriate.
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
Given that we're talking about Younger Dryas and possible Ice Age era civilisations, perhaps a lot of "God Wars" are in fact faint memories of the Younger Dryas? I mean if you're an ancient person, what will you think a destructive meteor shower is other than divine wrath?
Well,it is hindu mythology,so nonsense is given.But - you could explain it as war of advanced cyvilization explained by survivors who lost almost all of their knowledge.
Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
You could make the argument that things like the Fae and Wild Hunt along with a bunch of other myth's could be interpreted as the first alien abduction stories.
Bronze is made out of Copper and Tin which are rarely co located you need a sophisicated trade network to have a bronze age civilization. Which is why I strongly suspect we had a copper age before the bronze age.
Copper is easy to work with and you can make weapons and tools out of copper its not as good as bronze of course but you can do it. So a civilization that worked with copper, and had boats, and other tools set up along the atlantic side of europe and africa that got wreaked during the younger dryas seems pretty possible to me.