Command and Conquer

Aaron Fox

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Uhhhh it can still be an abomination even if it's following trends.
People forget that the system you put a game on determines practically everything. Mobiles, while better than the computers of yesteryear, are still not as capable as today's computers. Those limitations force the design of any game you put on the system.

That is also why HTML5 has to get Java elumnantor code for older Internet Explorer versions. HTML5 isn't compatible with the older IEs, period.

Given just how big the mobile market is, it isn't surprising that this is happening.

In addition, RTS as a genre still hasn't woken up to the fact that they need to follow FPS's footsteps in consolidating all the good points, making a standard control scheme, and fixing all the bad points (like accessibility; most RTSes ignore that Starcraft is king because it's accessible to everyone and not much else).
 

Jormungandr

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Mobiles make up a significant part of the market, so it isn't an abomination; it's just following trends.
I don't care if this is on mobile/Android or God's gold-encrusted Ryzen Two Billion.

It has half-naked women characters typical of mobile trash, and they're of existing characters to boot.

It has Red Alert fucking 3 units, such as the King Oni and Chronosphere.

 

Doomsought

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People forget that the system you put a game on determines practically everything. Mobiles, while better than the computers of yesteryear, are still not as capable as today's computers. Those limitations force the design of any game you put on the system.
The most important thing isn't processing power, it is user interface. Mobile just can't provide the user interface needed to provide a good strategy game experience. The screen is just too small, no matter how many pixel you pack into it. Like wise touch screens are just too much of a bottleneck for user inputs, especially since strategy games favor longer play time and demand more comfortable ergonomics than you can get out of a mobile device.

C&C and the fans it brings are fundamentally in the wrong genre to break into the mobile market. Its like trying to put a naval diesel electric engine on an air plane. If you are a moron, the horse power looks like it should be able to work, but if you aren't so stupid you need everything reduced to a one dimensional comparison you realize it is a bad idea.
 

Aaron Fox

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I don't care if this is on mobile/Android or God's gold-encrusted Ryzen Two Billion.

It has half-naked women characters typical of mobile trash, and they're of existing characters to boot.

It has Red Alert fucking 3 units, such as the King Oni and Chronosphere.


Given how much time travel is present in the Red Alert series, I'm not surprised that the CnC portion of the multiverse is having problems similar to what happened in Justice League Unlimited's time travel two-parter (long story short, a guy from the Batman Beyond portion of the DCAU invents a time suit and steals from the 'history's mysteries' of history, until his asshole of a wife makes him break and turns all of time into a polluted mess, causing time to be fluid).

In addition, it's implied that CnC Tiberium is based upon the Soviet ending of Red Alert...
 

Jormungandr

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Given how much time travel is present in the Red Alert series, I'm not surprised that the CnC portion of the multiverse is having problems similar to what happened in Justice League Unlimited's time travel two-parter (long story short, a guy from the Batman Beyond portion of the DCAU invents a time suit and steals from the 'history's mysteries' of history, until his asshole of a wife makes him break and turns all of time into a polluted mess, causing time to be fluid).

In addition, it's implied that CnC Tiberium is based upon the Soviet ending of Red Alert...
Allied ending actually, but there are so many in-game and lore inconsistencies with either (such as Russia being in GDI, the Soviets blowing up Greek monuments during their invasion of Athens but seeing those same monuments in Tiberian Dawn, post-Soviet nations, the "Global Initiative" being mentioned in an Allied campaign briefing resulting in GDI's forerunner 'Echo, Spec Ops 9', the post-Red Alert Ant missions, et cetera) that even Westwood took the "broad strokes" approach -- this mess was even more muddled when they said the Allied ending resulted in Red Alert 2, one of the aborted Renegade 2 prototypes was going to have the Allied Yuri's Revenge ending lead directly into Tiberian Dawn [how the fuck they were planning on that, I have no idea], and then they were going to use one version of an aborted C&C3 prototype to connect the two (which made things even more muddled)...

Yeah, it's basically all a complete and utter mess, heh.

But yeah, when C&C3 was finally released as Tiberium Wars, the only thing they mentioned was "Stalin's Advisor" being Kane in an intel document, and that's all.

The only way I can see this working is if the Sigma Harmonizer from Red Alert 3: Uprising broke shit so badly that things are starting to bleed over into Tiberium timeline, and we're seeing just one side of this mess (from the Tiberium perspective), but... I honestly don't think EA or the studios just using the IP for microtransaction farming are that creative.

This just looks like generic mobile gutter-trash from a shitty Chinese studio, especially with the half-naked/stripper characters.
 

TheRomanSlayer

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Still a big C and C fan here, although I do find the Generals universe much more appealing due to the vehicle designs that they have, and much better than the vehicles of RA3, which resembles children’s toys if it was built. Other than that, Tiberium verse is also good. Only thing is, what happens after Kane’s ascension is left unanswered
 

Jormungandr

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Still a big C and C fan here, although I do find the Generals universe much more appealing due to the vehicle designs that they have, and much better than the vehicles of RA3, which resembles children’s toys if it was built. Other than that, Tiberium verse is also good. Only thing is, what happens after Kane’s ascension is left unanswered
C&C4 needs a complete remake from ground to finish. The are things that could be salvaged, like certain vehicle designs and the plot point of Nod fracturing again, but the game on the whole was a dumpster fire.

Yeah, Generals' stuff was pretty hilarious. I love the GLA's arsenal, especially the Toyota Hilux being the main Technical model, lol.
 

ThatZenoGuy

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CnC4 always looked too cartoony for me. It looks like a mobile game before Mobile games got huge.
Its weird because the first game's spritework was pretty gritty and 'realistic', ya know for how realistic 30 pixels can be.
 

Jormungandr

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CnC4 always looked too cartoony for me. It looks like a mobile game before Mobile games got huge.
Its weird because the first game's spritework was pretty gritty and 'realistic', ya know for how realistic 30 pixels can be.
Ironically, it was meant to be a Pay to Win spin-off game for the Asian market, hence the cartoony shit. Look up "Command and Conquer: Arena". IIRC it was even meant to be browser-based?

But the higher ups wanted a sequel and they wanted it now, so they slapped on a half-assed campaign and story, cut most features (like the actual Scrin being a thing), spent like three dollars for props, and forced the studio at the time, despite its protests that this was a really dumb fucking idea, to adapt Arena's half-baked game into Tiberian Twilight.
 

Husky_Khan

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There's a low-key surprise sale on Command & Conquer RTS Games ATM on Steam.


Prices are about 90% off normal for Command & Conquer 3 and Red Alert 3 and associated expansion packs for whatever reason.









Sadly the Remastered Collection is still normal priced ATM.

 

Tiamat

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Husky_Khan

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An even bigger announcement, that was actually announced.



All seventeen Command & Conquer games available on Steam!


The Command & Conquer Ultimate Collection.

  • Command & Conquer
  • Command & Conquer: The Covert Operations
  • Command & Conquer: Red Alert
  • Command & Conquer: Red Alert: Counterstrike
  • Command & Conquer: Red Alert: The Aftermath
  • Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun
  • Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun Firestorm
  • Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2
  • Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2: Yuri's Revenge
  • Command & Conquer: Renegade
  • Command & Conquer: Generals
  • Command & Conquer: Generals: Zero Hour
  • Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars
  • Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars: Kane's Wrath
  • Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3
  • Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3: Uprising
  • Command & Conquer 4: Tiberian Twilight

The bundle can be had for under ten bucks!
 

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