Frankly this is nonsense,sure it's technically correct but when people say socialism they're thinking of Marxism.
China ChiCom News Thread
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In Poland we have bigger percentage of psyhopaths in commie party.
Only if you're an American and a layman, even American academics know there is a difference. There is a difference here as well. When people say Socialism they mean Socialism. If they are referring to Marxist the call them fucking Communists.
DarthOne
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We’re not all like that. But we probably could stand to make more of a distinction.
Arkansas, under the Governorship of Sarah Huckabee-Sanders, has become the first US State to presumably force ChiCom Companies to sell their land they own in the State of Arkansas.
Sarah Huckabee-Sanders stated that the Chinese are using the property in Arkansas to steal technology and research in agriculture and seeds from America to send back to China and finding out better ways of targeting American agriculture and that this also represents a thread to national security.
There have been actual cases of Chinese operatives stealing agricultural technology from American farmers, often in brazen manners, as one case from Iowa in 2012 cited in the article illustrates.
www.newsweek.com
Newsweek said:
Sarah Huckabee-Sanders stated that the Chinese are using the property in Arkansas to steal technology and research in agriculture and seeds from America to send back to China and finding out better ways of targeting American agriculture and that this also represents a thread to national security.
There have been actual cases of Chinese operatives stealing agricultural technology from American farmers, often in brazen manners, as one case from Iowa in 2012 cited in the article illustrates.
Newsweek said:
China forced to give up land owned in US
Arkansas Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders has ordered Syngenta, a Chinese-owned agriculture tech firm, to relinquish its holdings in the state.
www.newsweek.com
This should be done across the US and across all industries. No Chinese firm, or its subsidiaries should be allowed to own property or to even operate within the US. At this point, we have to realize the Chinese are conducing economic War targeting the US. We need to reciprocate.
In addition, everything that's strategic or medically necessary that's made in China needs to find a different source or begin to be produced in America.
Id like note that mexico has long had laws that ban outsiders from owning land in mexico.
There's nothing wrong with it.
Wargamer08
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I will note that Mexico is a borderline failed state, that has lost defacto control of several states to narcotics cartels. They are hardly sterling examples of good policies.
Still a good idea in principle, though.
Wargamer08
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Nationalizing other countries assets? It's a dangerous game. Not letting people buy something in the first place is fine, but allowing purchases then basically stealing them even with a reasonable sounding pretext is not a good idea. This is especially true for countries like the US, which depend on trade and foreign purchase of debt.
Historically the US has also acted with sometimes mustache twirling villainy towards countries nationalizing American companies. United Fruit.
You're not wrong.
However, this is about kicking China out of our business, and not allowing China to use us to prop themselves up while they weaken us at the same time.
I meant that no foreign nation being allowed to own actual land (e.g. farmland) in another, and that no foreign nation should have a controlling interest in major companies.
Wargamer08
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Hah, that's not how western companies and governments operate. You'd like China though, that's close to how they run.
And that's worked out so well for us, especially the Americans.
We are in no way obliged to play fair with what is very clearly a rival nation. Why should we allow the ChiComs to gain economic and or military advantages over us out of fear of being called hypocrites.
Wargamer08
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I mean it's not being called hypocrites, it's that lots of American businesses operate in countries like China. Sure you can just seize everything whenever you want, first though maybe look at how much you stand to lose? To say nothing of the second order effects from it.
American businesses should pull out of the PRC wholesale and we should heavily sanction them. The detrimental effects are unfortunate but it's no different then a heroin addict going through withdrawals. It is an unfortunate necessity because of the foolish actions of our parents. We cannot keep feeding the economy of the only nati on that can realistically challenge and possibly even defeat us. To do so is to quite literally ensure our own destruction and by a sword we built no less.
