They seem closer to National Socialist but with commie symbols to me🤔
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National Socialism is just another form of Communism. And besides, you start to sound awfully like these communists claiming that "it wasn't real communism!"... 
ShadowsOfParadox
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Nope, it is that simple and saying it isn't is playing silly buggers with definitions.
Read Mein Kampf, National Socialism was, in fact, Socialism, a bit "Socialism Lite" because Hitler didn't think he had the resources for full Socialism immediately, but that was the part of the point of the push for "Lebensraum".
The point of NatSoc was that Marxism and Capitalism were both Jewish inventions and the struggle between them a Jewish plot to "Take Over the World!!!"(yes, Hitler was insane, anything new?) To fight this conspiracy Hitler decided to use a non-Marxist Socialism centered around the Nation/Race rather than Class, but it was still very much Socialism, and for all people say "but PRIVATIZATION!!!", all 13 of the corporations the Nazi's "Privatized" things to were organs of the Nazi Party, all 13 of them operated at least as much to serve the politics of the Nazi's as "For Profit", none of them were actually independent of Government Control.
Many Historians have let themselves be drawn into playing silly buggers by socialists redefining things to say "Nazism wasn't Socialism", which is part of why it can be so hard to explain to a Holocaust denier why it definitely happened because without the Socialism part you can't actually explain why Hitler was so dumb as to kill off a big chunk of otherwise productive members of society.
If you have a few hours this is a good video, there's timestamps in the description but even the minimum watch time is like an hour+
So basically the current Chinese system? Not sure why you went off on a tangent? ðŸ¤
ShadowsOfParadox
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Because it's all Socialism.
Bear Ribs
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China has just taken over Uganda's main airport and various other bits of infrastructure for failure to make a payment on a loan.
www.orissapost.com
Uganda loses most prominent airport to China for failing to repay loan - OrissaPOST
New Delhi: The Ugandan government has lost its major airport to China for failing to repay a loan, African media reported. The government has failed to reverse a loan agreement with the Chinese which had repayment conditions of attaching its only airport, Today reported. Entebbe International...
www.orissapost.com
Navarro
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Yes, similar to Deng trying to recreate capitalism or Lenin's attempted NEP.
This isn't actually so far away from Marx as you might think. Marx was, to put it politely, not fond of the Jews; and he also saw his "world revolution" as incorporating a global race war in which the planet would be cleansed of "backwards peoples" supposedly unable to transition to socialism (Jews and Slavs naturally speaking, were on this list).
Not to mention that we have Lenin's NEP and the current Chinese system as well. Pretty much everything cited as proof by the left that Nazism wasn't a form of socialism has been practiced by other socialist regimes, including "they weren't perfectly doctrinaire Marxists" (Marx himself wasn't the originator of socialism, so this argument is particularly silly).
I mean that's the game they play whenever socialism results in genocide, so this is just a more extreme version of their usual tactics.
Navarro
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Reposted, actual Chinese water samples:
The regime admits in official statistics that 50% of the water is undrinkable by humans, so it's not a surprise that the actual truth was worse. And people say we need to turn commie to save the environment!
I'm surprised the populations aren't mutating like crazy already.Reposted, actual Chinese water samples:
The regime admits in official statistics that 50% of the water is undrinkable by humans, so it's not a surprise that the actual truth was worse. And people say we need to turn commie to save the environment!
...they never had effective ground water regs before now. Wow, just...wow.Reposted, actual Chinese water samples:
The regime admits in official statistics that 50% of the water is undrinkable by humans, so it's not a surprise that the actual truth was worse. And people say we need to turn commie to save the environment!
Oh dear god...the CCP has damn near committed suicide, because that level of contamination and depth of polluted waters...they need all the clean water they can get.
They need decon/desal/reclamation plants and operations on a huge scale to fix this, and they still have to worry about Three Gorges shifting.
No wonder parts of the CCP are itching for a fight over Taiwan, they have literally fucked their own soils for at least a few generations, and the more of their 'excess' pop they lose in a grinding war for Taiwan, the easier it will be to provide for the ones that are left to create a new nation once a new status quo is reached and the soils are clean again.
I guess at least this means sea level rise won't be as big an issue, because the CCP will need about that much freshwater to keep itself going while it fixes itself.
VicSage
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They are. Where did you think the coof came from?
China is facing a bunch of bullets with in the next 20 years and water is one of them, being the most overleveraged country in human history is one, their geography is one, the fact that they fucked their diplomacy is another. China is heading for a fall the county will however survive the chinese communist party though?
Thats doubtful.
bintananth
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"May you live in interesting times" - Chinese curse
From their virus R&D lab in Wuhan. Which Doctah Fauci contributed to and which was financed with US dollars.
Eh, going by the Leftoids in the western civilization, odds are they will try to force the various militaries to move into China and prop up the CCP.
If they do it will backfire horribly.
the quickest way to ruin your legitimacy in china is to have outsiders do your fighting for you.
That's extinction kind of risk they're facing. And now I have to check the labels on all my food. Though, I'm low risk because we tend to by fresh.
Belt & Road project for the Win!
The retarded part about the water crisis is that they can adopt the technology to unfuck it as the Israelis do.
Instead they try and strong arm Argentina into selling its fresh water reserves and even the PRC vichy.puppet there Fernandez considers them less than animals.
They're too arrogant to admit they're fucked and need external help so they'll commit suicide to save face.
Fine by me
Instead they try and strong arm Argentina into selling its fresh water reserves and even the PRC vichy.puppet there Fernandez considers them less than animals.
They're too arrogant to admit they're fucked and need external help so they'll commit suicide to save face.
Fine by me
Navarro
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Apparently they're deciding to commit economic suicide and readopt Maoism as well.
Navarro
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Reposted, actual Chinese water samples:
The regime admits in official statistics that 50% of the water is undrinkable by humans, so it's not a surprise that the actual truth was worse. And people say we need to turn commie to save the environment!
Another note - apparently the regime's own standard of "drinking quality" is drastically skewed: