And Space Marines have ones that allow them to breath in soace and rhat doesn't help.
Catachan (Warhammer40k) vs Various Invasions
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Scooby Doo
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That's not a filter that's just a vacuum seal which power armor can already do.
I don't even know why you brought it up lol.
Bear Ribs
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Because many of the various bioweapons you've pooh-poohed like Toxicrenes can also go through vacuum seals. A lot of 40K bioweapons just go right through power armor, hence why it won't actually help the FO side and why Catachans don't bother to wear it.
Scooby Doo
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Catachan doesn't have Toxicrenes tho, those are actual Tyranid units from Hive Fleets. The only bio weapons mentioned on Catachan to go through power armor is the barking toad and only the barking toad.
That hardly counts as a "lot"
I'm gonna need a source that the bulk of spores and such can go through vaccum sealed power armor.
It's also an oxy moron, spores by pass armor so there's no protection from it but they can survive just fine with a unmodified immune system?
Bear Ribs
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Do you even keep track of your own arguments? You brought up the Toxicrene to try to claim that creatures with no biology that don't eat or breathe were still vulnerable to poison.
As far as a source, how about you present a list of things that can't affect somebody in power armor instead, since you have so far sourced a total of a big fat zero.
You keep repeating "unmodified" and "peak human" as if you haven't been shot down on that claim half a dozen times so far. You've already had proof both in lore and rules that Catachans can soak damage with their bare skin equivalent to flak armor. You've already had proven that they're physically so strong they can hold up objects that would squash highly trained soldiers, who are themselves at the peak human level. They get compared with Ogryns that are 2.5-3 meters tall.
"Peak human" has no meaning because the author will set that where they want. Catachan Jungle Fighters show blatantly superhuman abilities compared with real life.
Scooby Doo
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I didn't bring up toxicrene at all, only barking Toads which aren't the same thing. There's different types of spores on Catachan not all of them have the same features, if you want to argue that they're all corrosive than by all means go ahead but you'll have to explain why Catachan weapons don't corrode to dust if that's the case.
There's a lot, which I why I am asking what they'll be coming across. We already know Power Armor can survive extreme temperatures and is vacuum sealed while being protective from extreme heat/physical force and radiation.
Erm you haven't really, you try to pass off a bunch of peak human feats as superhuman.
Show me Catachan throwing cars and not generic action movie hero stuff.
1. No the only source provided for lore is "The strongest" Catachan withstanding bullets without grimacing, not actually stopping bullets so it's a pain tolerance feat not durability and only applicable to the strongest one so you can't even scale others to it.
2. we're doing game mechanics? Mkay baseline Pre War Humans can punt Death Claws with their blows
You actually never proved the other soldiers were peak human.
Size doesn't matter stats does, in fact it's the dumbest thing you can be arguing for. If they're that big they're going to be easy to hit targets
Please show me Catachan running faster than a cheetah, deflecting small arms fire without flinching or being injured, tossing cars or creating shockwaves with stomps.
Or show me them withstanding radiation or actively resisting diseases that kill another person in minutes.
If they're not doing any of the listed you're just hyping up generic action movie feats and trying to compare them with Power Armor that can contend with actual super humans (Like Supermutants who can tear power armor users out of their armor with their barehands something that Death Claws take noticable effort to do and rely on their claws to do the damage over their car tossing strength)
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That's the sort of silly stuff that legitimately does show up in 40k though, its a ridiculous franchise with less consistency than most (and most are inconsistent as it is!)
40k humans range from 'literally average joe' to 'can pick up a crew-operated weapon by himself and run around with it'...Actually if you include abhumans and obscure lore pieces (9 foot tall superhuman 'normal' humans who herd giant murder lizards for fun, because gigantism has no downsides in 40k apparently) it gets worse.
Catachan soldiers are shirtless most of the time yet have armor values anywhere from flak to CARAPACE, aka, yes they can in fact get shot in the face by weapons up to bolters and laugh it off.
Even worse, Catachan ASSIMILATED the nids, the Catachan Devils are long-assimilated tyranid organisms which have gone feral.
That is a fan theory we have no basis from lore.
I admit I don't know the source of the claim but do you know for certain it's fanon?
We have no source. That's how
That's 50% of 40k though because so much of it dates back to obscure rogue trader materials.
Like there is no sources on it.
In any case, we all agree Catachan is very, very hostile. <;D
Oh of course.
I just couldn't find the source sadly
As for OP, I am not sure if any of these people can 'subjugate' this planet, 40k out-techs these people by quite a lot and have plenty of blatant magic fuckery on their side as well.
