Catachan (Warhammer40k) vs Various Invasions

[Scooby Doo]

Catachan and what ever naval assets normally defending its system are invaded by a gauntlet of enemies who want to subjugate the planet.


R1. System Alliance "First & Second Fleet", they have four years to subjugate the planet.

R2. Hoth Fleet "Disney Canon", they have six years to subjugate the planet.

R3. The Fleet of Particular Justice, they have eight years to subjugate planet.

R4. Composite Fallout America (Pre War numbers, Pre&Post War tech) using 25 Mothership Zeta type Ships to ferry troops and resources to subjugate the planet, they have sixteen years to subjugate the planet.

Subjugate as in being able to colonize the planet by establishing a safe population of ten million strong for their respective citizens.



Edit: Each wave is immediately after the other is defeated or run out of time.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

R1? What fiction is the "Systems Alliance" from?

Ditto R3s Fleet of Particular Justice...?

 

[Scooby Doo]

R1? What fiction is the "Systems Alliance" from?

Ditto R3s Fleet of Particular Justice...?

R1. Mass Effect System Alliance
R2. Halo's fleet of Particular Justice

Both are from video game settings.

 

[Zachowon]

So they are invading catachan?
A world that tyranids wernt even able to conquer?
And uh, the fleet destroys all of them before they get close.

 

[Scooby Doo]

So they are invading catachan?
A world that tyranids wernt even able to conquer?
And uh, the fleet destroys all of them before they get close.

Tbh the Tyranids not being able to conquer the planet is on the same level of PIS as Hulk not being able to beat Spiderman.

 

[Zachowon]

Tbh the Tyranids not being able to conquer the planet is on the same level of PIS as Hulk not being able to beat Spiderman.

More along the lines of scouts for a hive fleet.
And not really.
Remember, nuclear toad

 

[Scooby Doo]

More along the lines of scouts for a hive fleet.
And not really.
Remember, nuclear toad

That's still kinda a pathetic feat even for a scout tbh.

Also Nuclear Toad is kinda easily countered by robots who have no such biological weakness to poison, just have a robot or drone fly around set them all off and have the population of toads extinct in a week.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Shoot...a ME fleet would be dead pretty quickly b/c they suck so bad at dealing with energy weapons. So scenario 1 is pretty much a lost cause for the invaders. They might get token assets down, but they planet eats them with very little help from the Catachan military.

Scenario 2 w/Death Squadron, Admiral Piett, and Darth Vader is a bit more interesting. A lot of this will come down to how much of the defensive fleet was destroyed facing the Systems Alliance vessels. Having Darth Vader hear helps to some degree, though he may leave the space battle completely to Piett. Vader probably gets angry at some point and leads a boarding party against an Imperial Vessel, OR some Imperial force attempts to board the Executor. My bet is that a lot of the Death Squadron blows up, but not before a lot of troops disembark to tray and take Catachan...as previously, this is B A D idea. The Storm Troopers are simply ill prepared to deal with what's on the ground, and any unarmored body, just is gonna die horribly.

I'll stop with those 2 for now.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Shoot...a ME fleet would be dead pretty quickly b/c they suck so bad at dealing with energy weapons. So scenario 1 is pretty much a lost cause for the invaders. They might get token assets down, but they planet eats them with very little help from the Catachan military.

Scenario 2 w/Death Squadron, Admiral Piett, and Darth Vader is a bit more interesting. A lot of this will come down to how much of the defensive fleet was destroyed facing the Systems Alliance vessels. Having Darth Vader hear helps to some degree, though he may leave the space battle completely to Piett. Vader probably gets angry at some point and leads a boarding party against an Imperial Vessel, OR some Imperial force attempts to board the Executor. My bet is that a lot of the Death Squadron blows up, but not before a lot of troops disembark to tray and take Catachan...as previously, this is B A D idea. The Storm Troopers are simply ill prepared to deal with what's on the ground, and any unarmored body, just is gonna die horribly.

I'll stop with those 2 for now.

Hmmm what if the Hoth fleet clears a landing area by BDZing a couple hundred kilometers of land with their Turbo Lasers?

Or using Tie Bomber nukes?

 

[Bear Ribs]

Hmmm what if the Hoth fleet clears a landing area by BDZing a couple hundred kilometers of land with their Turbo Lasers?

Or using Tie Bomber nukes?

Wouldn't work. Remember, at Hoth they had a shield "strong enough to withstand any bombardment." The only logical thing to do is take the vs. debate approach and presume Admiral Ozzel was clearly speaking absolute fact and had every kind of knowledge imaginable so we can take his statement at face value that shield on Hoth could soak hits from the Death Star, really though he probably knew they would build more so he must have been eastimating multiple Death Stars at once. Yeah, seems legit.

It's just a shame nobody else, like the guys getting hit by the TIE nuke bombardment, never thought to install Hoth Grade shields around their homes. So much life lost to cheapness...

 

[Scooby Doo]

Wouldn't work. Remember, at Hoth they had a shield "strong enough to withstand any bombardment." The only logical thing to do is take the vs. debate approach and presume Admiral Ozzel was clearly speaking absolute fact and had every kind of knowledge imaginable so we can take his statement at face value that shield on Hoth could soak hits from the Death Star, really though he probably knew they would build more so he must have been eastimating multiple Death Stars at once. Yeah, seems legit.

It's just a shame nobody else, like the guys getting hit by the TIE nuke bombardment, never thought to install Hoth Grade shields around their homes. So much life lost to cheapness...

Wait whu? Catachan doesn't use shields just lots of vegetation, what does the Hoth shield have to do with this lol?

 

[Simonbob]

Catachan?

Ok, that's such a nightmare Death World that short simply wiping the planet clean of life via ortillery, it's going to be really, really hard.

Not even counting the defensive fleet and general Imperial stuff, after all, Catachan troops are some of the top elite Imperial Guard units, it's going to be a massive bitch to take.


The learning curve of a planet where some of the local critters include self atomic immolation is going to be huge, and they're not automaticaly the most dangerous beasts there.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Catachan?

Ok, that's such a nightmare Death World that short simply wiping the planet clean of life via ortillery, it's going to be really, really hard.

Not even counting the defensive fleet and general Imperial stuff, after all, Catachan troops are some of the top elite Imperial Guard units, it's going to be a massive bitch to take.


The learning curve of a planet where some of the local critters include self atomic immolation is going to be huge, and they're not automaticaly the most dangerous beasts there.

Tbf only like twelve million poorly equipped people in fortresses try to survive on the planet, we never seen in the lore how a highly advanced faction would do better.

Robots and advanced tech/plasma seem like the antitode to sterilizing an area for a colony. I feel like by Round 3. The Navy guarding the planet would be completely destroyed. After all the Imperium on round 2 is going up against this

 

[Simonbob]

Tbf only like twelve million poorly equipped people in fortresses try to survive on the planet, we never seen in the lore how a highly advanced faction would do better.

....... I wonder why you're showing Star Wars Empire troops as a display of "Highly Advanced".

 

[Scooby Doo]

....... I wonder why you're showing Star Wars Empire troops as a display of "Highly Advanced".

Tbh it's not their troops that are advanced but their tech and vehicles.


Not much on Catachan with the feats to take out a TIE Bomber or ATAT

 

[Zachowon]

Tbf only like twelve million poorly equipped people in fortresses try to survive on the planet, we never seen in the lore how a highly advanced faction would do better.

Robots and advanced tech/plasma seem like the antitode to sterilizing an area for a colony. I feel like by Round 3. The Navy guarding the planet would be completely destroyed. After all the Imperium on round 2 is going up against this

And that is cute.
On a firepower level that wouldn't get past the shields of destroyers without every ship focusing fire.
Let alone cruisers or any battleships in orbit.

You don't know the kind of firepower 40k ships deal with do you?

 

[Zachowon]

Tbh it's not their troops that are advanced but their tech and vehicles.


Not much on Catachan with the feats to take out a TIE Bomber or ATAT

Hydra, manticore, valkryies

 

[Scooby Doo]

And that is cute.
On a firepower level that wouldn't get past the shields of destroyers without every ship focusing fire.
Let alone cruisers or any battleships in orbit.

You don't know the kind of firepower 40k ships deal with do you?

Depends on what sources you pick, typically it's gigatons but a lot of people wank exatons

Hydra, manticore, valkryies

So like a handful as I said?

Considering the population is always having to be mobile and only twelve million in total you'd probably only see like one armored regiment in all of Catachan

 

[The Whispering Monk]

BDZ a clear landing zone of couple hundered k's...unless they keep up with 'maintenance' Catachan will grow over the cleared area within weeks.

Edited to add: Let's be clear on something here. Catachan is the ONE world where the Tyranids have landed and were UNABLE to overcome the native ecosystem. Catachan eats 'nids. Yes, the Catachan IG units help, but it's mostly Catachan itself that eats 'nids.

 

[Scooby Doo]

BDZ a clear landing zone of couple hundered k's...unless they keep up with 'maintenance' Catachan will grow over the cleared area within weeks.

Hmm depends if they have enough ships left.