The Americas Canadian mass shooter kills 16 over course of rampage; Not your average mass shooting

[MelancholicMechanicus]

At least 18 people killed in N.S. shooting; deadliest such attack in Canada: police

Police say at least 18 people, including an RCMP officer, have been killed in a mass shooting incident in Nova Scotia, making it the worst mass shooting in Canadian history. The suspect is also dead following the incident.

atlantic.ctvnews.ca

This is not your average mass shooting. So far there is little info over the reason for it but what makes this unique is the style. The shooter didn't go into a place and shoot it up like a school or a mall. No, he went to the victims. And he did so over the course of hours while dressed as a mountie apparently (Canadian federal police, though probably the modern uniform not the aesthetic red one you are thinking of).

This went on for hours. There is over 100km between the first and last victim. This is simply eerie. Was he really jusy going wherever he passed by or was this premeditated and he knew who he wanted to kill? How did it take so long for the Canadians to realize this "officer" wasn't what he looked to be?

And, at the risk of being a little inflamatory here, how much will this be used as a lever to force gub control and draconian censorship and government oversight on the canadian population? We all know politicians can't let tragedies go to waste, and with the world already in panic thanks to Covid-19 they sure have a easy "Think of your safety!" card to play here. Any canadian forum members wanna way in on this and give us some background?

 

[Cherico]

Canada already has draconian gun laws censorship and a level of government oversight that would be unconsistutional in the united states. And it did nothing to stop this.

 

[Arch Dornan]

Wow this was very well prepared.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Canada already has draconian gun laws censorship and a level of government oversight that would be unconsistutional in the united states. And it did nothing to stop this.

Obviously, it just needs MORE of said gun laws and oversight

Bet that guy bought his gun from some place legal and if not, it's the legal place's fault because their guns somehow end up in the black market

 

[Harlock]

It is odd that this was clearly premeditated, yet apparently many of his targets were strangers to him. Unless they were in some way well known and prominent in the community it seems a mystery why he picked them.
One theory is he lost his mind in lock down

 

[CarlManvers2019]

It is odd that this was clearly premeditated, yet apparently many of his targets were strangers to him. Unless they were in some way well known and prominent in the community it seems a mystery why he picked them.
One theory is he lost his mind in lock down

How do you buy guns in the middle of lockdown?

I’d think that Canada would enforce a ban on gun shops as they’re non essentials as well

 

[Harlock]

Probably already had them.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Probably already had them.

Was he a registered gun owner?

 

[Harlock]

Hang on a second, I'll go ring him
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He said go google it

 

[MelancholicMechanicus]

Death toll has been finalized 18 it seems. Trudeau has already made a politician speech about it. I am now trying to find out what the opinion in Canada about this is but my sources on it are just crap (reddit ain't even a reflection of it's own audience, much less real life).

 

[Tzeentchean Perspective]

I would like to know the type of gun used. If he was going across several miles it explains the body count, even if it was just with a bolt action gun or a .22.

Here is an explanation of Canadian rules to for buying a gun, reminder that there are neurotic people in Canada who want even more restrictions than this:

 

[CarlManvers2019]

I would like to know the type of gun used. If he was going across several miles it explains the body count, even if it was just with a bolt action gun or a .22.

Here is an explanation of Canadian rules to for buying a gun, reminder that there are neurotic people in Canada who want even more restrictions than this:

You know what? Just outright ban gun ownership

Then wait and see people realize these guys are getting guns illegally

What would they do next? Regulate guns in law enforcement and armed forces to avoid it ever getting in the hands of someone crazy or to prevent one going crazy and conveniently having firepower?

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

I would like to know the type of gun used. If he was going across several miles it explains the body count, even if it was just with a bolt action gun or a .22.

A Canadian? Definitely a mares leg.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

A Canadian? Definitely a mares leg.

Mares leg?

 

[MelancholicMechanicus]

Mares leg?

Lever action rifle in pistol cartridge. Would fit with what I know of Canadian gun laws. And indeed the Canadian government are super in favour of gun control. Did you know they banned the H&K G11 by name? A prototype assault rifle, that never even went into full production, and they made a special law just to ban it. It's the epitome of "black scary gun" panic. Someone saw it in a gun magazine and just banned it.

This will 100% be used to pass even more gun control, regardless of what happened and how the gun was acquired.

 

[Harlock]

You know what? Just outright ban gun ownership

Then wait and see people realize these guys are getting guns illegally

What would they do next? Regulate guns in law enforcement and armed forces to avoid it ever getting in the hands of someone crazy or to prevent one going crazy and conveniently having firepower?

These guys? Nah, you are tripping over your cliches. Criminals, real criminals, will get them. Bank robbers, gangs, drug dealers. People who have connections and know who to talk to, people who have the power and connections not to get fucked over.

But someone like this? Or any sort of middle class fat middle aged man with no criminal connection and serious mental health problems? You reckon he'd know an underworld arms dealer? Or if he did do you think said dealer wouldn't just take his money and fuck off?

There are plenty of illegal guns around, but they don't just fall into the hands of anyone who wants them. Real criminals sure, random nutbars who snap? Less so.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

This will 100% be used to pass even more gun control, regardless of what happened and how the gun was acquired.

I've said it before, that Kazynsci Anarcho-Primitivist bombing douchebag may have been a crazy piece of shit, but even he could tell that "rebellion" has long since been taken over by the "establishment"

These guys? Nah, you are tripping over your cliches. Criminals, real criminals, will get them. Bank robbers, gangs, drug dealers. People who have connections and know who to talk to, people who have the power and connections not to get fucked over.

But someone like this? Or any sort of middle class fat middle aged man with no criminal connection and serious mental health problems? You reckon he'd know an underworld arms dealer? Or if he did do you think said dealer wouldn't just take his money and fuck off?

There are plenty of illegal guns around, but they don't just fall into the hands of anyone who wants them. Real criminals sure, random nutbars who snap? Less so.

Obviously it's the random numbers who are the REAL focus of gun-related crimes

They're more sensational than an ordinary robbery

 

[Harlock]

Obviously it's the random numbers who are the REAL focus of gun-related crimes

They're more sensational than an ordinary robbery

And you would almost certainly stop those types of people getting guns and as such prevent these type of shootings. So is it worth it?

You won't stop gun crime, as has been said a lot if a criminal wants a gun he'll get one. But criminals tend to use their guns on each other not innocent people. Sure some kid gets hit in a crossfire now and then but mostly the victims of illegal guns are criminals.

So you don't stop gun crime, you might make it worse, but there is a very good chance you shift the type of people getting killed. Less innocents, more criminals. So would you do it? Maybe kill more people, but they are gangers and drug dealers.

Interesting sort of question, but purely hypothetical.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

And you would almost certainly stop those types of people getting guns and as such prevent these type of shootings. So is it worth it?

You won't stop gun crime, as has been said a lot if a criminal wants a gun he'll get one. But criminals tend to use their guns on each other not innocent people. Sure some kid gets hit in a crossfire now and then but mostly the victims of illegal guns are criminals.

So you don't stop gun crime, you might make it worse, but there is a very good chance you shift the type of people getting killed. Less innocents, more criminals. So would you do it? Maybe kill more people, but they are gangers and drug dealers.

Interesting sort of question, but purely hypothetical.

In the end this is more of a thing that people won’t really think about and helps if the most people doing votes or making the narrative are away from
most of actual said gun crime or criminals

The random lone wolf is something more likely to get attention than anything else

 

[Harlock]

In the end this is more of a thing that people won’t really think about and helps if the most people doing votes or making the narrative are away from
most of actual said gun crime or criminals

The random lone wolf is something more likely to get attention than anything else

It gets attention as it is the one most likely to affect the average citizen. As I said most criminal gun deaths are other criminals, not to sound cruel but if a hundred teenage gang bangers get wasted in Chicago, do people in the suburbs of Milwaukee really care?

But these nut jobs, they don't target gang bangers they target the normal law abiding upright citizen. It is more likely the average decent guy will lose family to a lone wolf then to gang warfare. So naturally this is more of a concern to them and their focus is on preventing this sort of a killing.

Thats why there seems to be this disconnect in gun debates, it isn't so much 'gun crime' as it is 'gun crime that affects people I might care about'