Boomstick's and shooty shooty bang bang's - The GUN Thread!

LindyAF

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Going to go with a 357 for that reason, lol. Going to get my brother his first gun for his birthday, so I want something that he can actually get ammo for.
 

prinCZess

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Henry, Winchester, or someone else for a lever gun? Heard Marlin’s QC and customer service has gone downhill.
Henry is the one I have been hearing as the go-to in recent years--and have also heard the same thing about Marlin's quality and service going down. Have heard some people saying good things and others badmouthing Winchester so...dunnow about that one either way (and, in truth, am only passing along hearsay rather than anything more concrete).
 

Bear Ribs

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The Whispering Monk

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Oh, I was tempted. However, I decided to go with the .410 as a home defense weapon b/c it's a bit more forgiving with quick aiming, and the .410 is still a fairly decent round and those ranges.
 

GROGNARD

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I recall hearing that the Taurus Judge revolver could employ .45 LC ... is that true for the Henry X?

As for lever action rifles, my Dad gave me his Winchester Model 94C in .357mag.
It is sweet to shoot and feeds on .38 special with ease.
Finding ammo however, is NOT easy.
 

ShadowArxxy

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Henry, Winchester, or someone else for a lever gun? Heard Marlin’s QC and customer service has gone downhill.

I remain a fan of the classic Winchester Model 1894. Although they're not made in the United States anymore, the current production is of distinctly higher quality since FN Herstal bought them out and switched back to action parts machined out of solid steel billets as opposed to cheap stamped sheet metal. This makes modern '94s fundamentally on par with the coveted pre-1964 classics.
 

prinCZess

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prinCZess grew up shooting a Browning Hi-Power (very occasionally...too occaisonally) of her pop's that ended up getting sold, and desperately wanted a new one before they discontinued 'em in 2018, but there were so many other things to spend money on and it was mostly a vanity thing.

She never got one and has super-hard-time justifying paying out the heiny even more for one now (and, because of the vanity, hasn't really wanted a surplus beater, clone or not, on the simple basis it's not pretty enough, dammit...Not to mention also increasingly becoming more expensive).

But it seems there might be some hope...


Immediate objections is it being Springfield Armory since they're a company I've tried not to patronize since their Illinois lobbying shenanigans years back...And, of course, it doesn't have the polished pretty that went into the Browning ones...But ~700 is an easier-to-justify price-point for a vanity affair if I do decide to jump in and I can somewhat-hope there might be a looks-upgrade to come out if it's popular enough.
But then prinCZess has just come around to a familiar and awkward situation: buy something not-quite perfect now and have a fun-gun that's pretty-enough to look at, or roll the dice on the future holding better things to spend money on (when last time she did that, Browning went and cancelled the whole she-bang!)
:(

Maybe while I'm hoping I should just go whole-hog and hope Browning does like Colt did with the civilian-AR market and decides to jump back in if they see the chance to make a buck.

Long story short: Indecisiveness and cheapskate-ittude has put me into quite the conundrum(s).
 
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Laskar

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prinCZess grew up shooting a Browning Hi-Power (very occasionally...too occaisonally) of her pop's that ended up getting sold, and desperately wanted a new one before they discontinued 'em in 2018, but there were so many other things to spend money on and it was mostly a vanity thing.

She never got one and has super-hard-time justifying paying out the heiny even more for one now (and, because of the vanity, hasn't really wanted a surplus beater, clone or not, on the simple basis it's not pretty enough, dammit...Not to mention also increasingly becoming more expensive).

But it seems there might be some hope...


Immediate objections is it being Springfield Armory since they're a company I've tried not to patronize since their Illinois lobbying shenanigans years back...And, of course, it doesn't have the polished pretty that went into the Browning ones...But ~700 is an easier-to-justify price-point for a vanity affair if I do decide to jump in and I can somewhat-hope there might be a looks-upgrade to come out if it's popular enough.
But then prinCZess has just come around to a familiar and awkward situation: buy something not-quite perfect now and have a fun-gun that's pretty-enough to look at, or roll the dice on the future holding better things to spend money on (when last time she did that, Browning went and cancelled the whole she-bang!)
:(

Maybe while I'm hoping I should just go whole-hog and hope Browning does like Colt did with the civilian-AR market and decides to jump back in if they see the chance to make a buck.

Long story short: Indecisiveness and cheapskate-ittude has put me into quite the conundrum(s).
I'd pull the trigger on this one if I were you. I've regretted a few buys, but I've regretted a lot more opportunities that passed me by.
 

prinCZess

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I'd pull the trigger on this one if I were you. I've regretted a few buys, but I've regretted a lot more opportunities that passed me by.
Yeah, probably going to. Put myself on mailing lists at a few places for one, and'll probably investigate around local shops over the weekend 'cuz...Yeah. I want.

Could a gunsmith pretty this repro up for you?
And this actually made me smack my head and firmly settle on 'want' because it didn't occur to me and of course I could. Think there's even a place or two nearby to me that could do a nicer rebluing, and then my vanity would be mostly-sated.

The only thing left would be to see/hope it's compatible with an old style spur hammer.

Huzzah, I have a plan!
...Boo, it's a plan that involves spending money!
Oh well. Some things more useful/fun than money.
 
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stephen the barbarian

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i just got done with my hunting trip.
due to ammo concerns i'm looking for a .308 rifle for next year.
my budget is between $500 and $1000.
i'm looking for suggestions on either a semi auto or a bolt action
 

Battlegrinder

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i just got done with my hunting trip.
due to ammo concerns i'm looking for a .308 rifle for next year.
my budget is between $500 and $1000.
i'm looking for suggestions on either a semi auto or a bolt action


What are you looking to do with it, just hunting or something else?
 

bullethead

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i just got done with my hunting trip.
due to ammo concerns i'm looking for a .308 rifle for next year.
my budget is between $500 and $1000.
i'm looking for suggestions on either a semi auto or a bolt action
Here's an AR-10 just barely in your price range:

AFAIK, Howa bolt actions are still pretty cheap and decent.
 

Captain X

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With your budget, you'll probably be looking for a bolt action. Mauser actions are pretty good if you can find a Fudd rifle with one. As far as milsurp, I think some enterprising company converted some beat to shit Spanish Mausers into .308 a while back if you can find any. Other than that, the closest you'll get is 7.62 NATO, and there are a number of milsurp rifles in that, including some Ishapore Enfields that would probably be in that price range.
 

ShadowArxxy

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Have heard some people saying good things and others badmouthing Winchester so...dunnow about that one either way (and, in truth, am only passing along hearsay rather than anything more concrete).

Point of trivia, if anyone cares:

Winchester doesn't really exist anymore. The original Winchester company went bankrupt in 1931 and was bought out by the Western Cartridge Company, which still exists to this day as Olin Corporation. After several years of declining business and increasingly ugly labor relations, Olin divested the gun-making business in 1980 by selling the New Haven factory to its now-former employees, retaining the name and design rights over Winchester firearms and licensing said rights to the new "U.S. Repeating Arms" company. U.S. Repeating Arms lasted only nine years before hitting bankruptcy, at which point it was acquired by a French holding company and then resold to the Belgian Herstal Group. Note that since U.S. Repeating Arms owned the physical factory only, and its licenses from Olin did not transfer through the bankruptcy.

In 2006, Olin entered a new licensing deal with Browning, under which Browning would produce the Winchester Model 1885, Model 1892, and Model 1886 lever action rifles. The actual physical production of these rifles is done by Miroku of Japan, they are then imported and sold through Browning. Later on, the Model 1994 rifle and the Model 1300 shotgun (a.k.a. Winchester SXP) were added to the lineup. All Miroku-made Winchesters are known to be of extremely high build quality, having reversed the cost-cutting measures that Winchester made in 1964 and also utilizing modern computer-controlled CNC tooling.

In 2008, Olin entered another new licensing deal with FN Herstal for the Model 70 rifle. These were initially made at FN's plant in the United States, but by 2013 switched to Portugal.

(Note that since Browning is a subsidiary of the Herstal Group, this means *all* modern Winchesters are FN-made.)


Edit: I believe the original tooling from New Haven was transferred to Miroku to be reverse-engineered for modern CNC tooling, which is a big part of why the Miroku-Winchesters are as good as they are.
 
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