TyrantTriumphant
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I'm not even sure Harris is in charge. I think that the gaggle of advisors and bureaucrats surrounding the department heads are the ones actually making decisions. That's how they ran the Mueller investigation.
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Bear Ribs
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Honestly it was a good response. Biden can't gain anything from debating Putin, could lose a lot of face, and this response pretty much shows that Biden does not see Putin as his equal which is a both a subtle slap for challenging him and a reminder who the superpower is.
The response they gave about him being to busy was horrible.
Should have said he needs to bring something worthwhile to the table
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Already well known.
Terthna
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I thought it made him look weaker than he already did; which, admittedly, is rather impressive. He just ran away from a confrontation with the leader of a nation; with this, whatever face he may have had is non-existent at this point. He is a coward, and everyone knows it.
Bear Ribs
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Problem is if he does that, Putin might actually bring something to the table to call Biden's bluff and then Biden will look even worse for backing down afterwards. After all he's sure to win if the debate actually happens, Biden is extremely weak on speaking. As is this response shut things down entirely and lets him save face by claiming Putin's not worth his time, which is the only, well not exactly winning move but less losing move.
Oh I'm not saying it's a good thing to be sure, it did make the US look weaker. Biden is between a rock and a hard place there. My point is more that between running away, and having Biden try to debate Putin in front of the whole world, running away is the better option.
No.
Because it basically shows that the US will back down from a fight.
We are showing we can be walked on
Bear Ribs
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Back away from a fight or get mocked and humiliated publicly in front of the whole world. If your leader can't win a debate for love or money you have to learn to live with not being able to compete in debates.
strunkenwhite
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And how far do you think it would go? You mentioned the Senate earlier. [edit: lol wtf that was Jormungandr]
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Biden just showed we are willing to run away over stand and fight.
Basically shows that we are free reign to fuck with.
Bear Ribs
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So? Would getting walked over in a debate have been better? Of course not. Fact is if the only outcome of the game is a certain, humiliating loss, not playing is the better option.
It is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to talk and remove all doubt of it. -Maurice Switzer (Sometimes erroneously attributed to Mark Twain or Abraham Lincoln)
Even fools are thought wise if they keep silent, and discerning if they hold their tongues. -King Solomon
Terthna
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...I'm Terthna; you're thinking of Jormungandr.
That said, if they manage to pull this off in the House, there's no reason that I can think of for why they couldn't do it again in the Senate. Mind you, I don't think they'd try to oust every Republican; just the ones who aren't RINOs.
If they pull this off, I expect MTG and Boebert to be their next targets.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Bully the Biden.
Putin's an ex rusky glowie. Double the killer.
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strunkenwhite
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I have no explanation for how that happened; I apologize. Thanks for answering, but there's no way this would have the votes in the Senate even if the House went completely bonkers.
From what I understand, the justification would be the insanely close vote and some questionable ballots that are enough to flip the SIX necessary votes. That wouldn't be the case for Boebert, and Greene obliterated her opponent (I recall reading that his morale broke from threats/harassment and he literally fled the state).
If there was a second target it would probably be that NY-22 race that also got dragged out and seems to have ultimately been won (by the Republican) by about 100 votes.
But—what would they even gain by this? If they have the solidarity to unseat representatives by the handful for no reason, then why do they need to do it in the first place when they already have the majority? I don't get it. It seems to make more sense as the Iowan candidate desperately scrabbling for a victory slipping through her fingers and the Democrats going, "eh, maybe".
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Terthna
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It might, if enough RINOs back it. It would be an easy way to purge the Republican party of people who aren't controlled opposition.
The last time the establishment thought they had enough power, Trump won the 2016 election. I suspect after that debacle, they've decided there's no such thing; they want all of the power now.
So, basically Ol' Joe ran his mouth, and then ran away? I mean, fine, I also wouldn't want to get into a serious debate if I was a senile old badger and my opponent was a slick ex-KGB man fluent in more than one language. But in that case maybe I'd watch my mouth in the first place...
It sets yet another precedent against republicans.
they do understand that the law of political retailation states that any tactic you use on others may one day be used on you right?
They believe they are immune to consequences, and with the way the cuckservatives act, I think they have pretty good odds. If we want to hurt the Left, we need to throw out the RINOs and Spineless out of the GOP, we need to install our own activist-judges, we need to recruit politicans that hate the Left and are not afraid of showing so, we need to run our own long marsh through the institutions, we need to cast aside the ideas that the MSM is neutral and that we are supposed to act civil to everyone, we need our own troops of antifa-type mob to aim at demonstrations of our enemy. Cast not pearls before swines.