United States Biden administration policies and actions - megathread

Your advocating for theft those landlords are not some super rich class of people they have to pay taxes bills and other crap too to compare landlords in America to Rome is crazy those are hugely different situations
No there is no practical difference between the landlords the Gracchi were fighting, and the ones who Biden are screwing over. The big difference was that the Roman economy had slaves that screwed the low class free Roman more than current Americans, but the concept is the same. The land lords are wealthier than the renters and there are fewer of them. If people stopped sucking off the free market so much they could see that. The best option is to do a mass forgiveness of debts. Even ancient Israel did something like that very 40 years.

Takings Clause, the US government literally can't do that.
If you are going to hide behind the constitution then at least be honest the takings clause prevents the government from taking property without compensation. If it wanted to it could eminent domain every house being rented pay off the owner then give or sell it for ridiculously cheap like $1 to the renter.
 
@King Arts

1. Govt. is breaking the written contract signed with mutual consent. That is a direct violation of law.

2. Most Land Lords are small business owners not huge millionaires. Many are retirees who are living off their rental income of 1 or 2 homes. The moratorium has destroyed those owners.

3. Giving shit to some at the expense of others is just another form of taxation and welfare. In this case, it's actual chattel slavery. All the benefits of the owners efforts are being withheld. It's like Rome just you have the analogy reversed. The owners are now the slaves of their tennants.
 
@King Arts

1. Govt. is breaking the written contract signed with mutual consent. That is a direct violation of law.

2. Most Land Lords are small business owners not huge millionaires. Many are retirees who are living off their rental income of 1 or 2 homes. The moratorium has destroyed those owners.

3. Giving shit to some at the expense of others is just another form of taxation and welfare. In this case, it's actual chattel slavery. All the benefits of the owners efforts are being withheld. It's like Rome just you have the analogy reversed. The owners are now the slaves of their tennants.
1. Government can change the law, adjust things, or make previously legal things illegal. And no taking the land lords house isn't a violation of the law.
2. There are a few ways to respond either they are parasites who just take a cut of wealth because they own land but don't produce anything themselves, or another thing is if they are living off the rental income solely and need it what have they been doing with the moratorium? How have they survived the past year with no money coming in if what you say is true?
And the mass eminent domain was just an extreme example because the way the American constitution and legal system is set up is dumb. The preferred strategy is to extend the moratorium one or two more months and inform everyone that all debts that were incurred during this time will be declared null and void. The renters would start paying again next month and the land lords will pretend that the past year did not exist. This isn't some crazy liberal socialist idea only greedy money worshippers should be against this, the Christian response should be against big money, and to try and recreate a year of jubilee, you know that time in the old testament where Ancient Israel forgave all debts, and freed all slaves every 7 years.
3. Are you a land lord? This is either hilariously ignorant or ridiculously lie. No land lords are not slaves, they are not bought and sold at auctions and live to serve the renters. They don't get forced to work for free, they can't be killed, beaten, or raped without repercussions.

In Republican Rome after the Punic wars Rome had an influx of slaves coming in since they became masters of the Mediterranean, and this was before the Marian reforms so the Roman army was made up of citizen soldiers who mustered when it was time for war. Most citizens were small tenant farmers, while they were away they couldn't farm so their fields lay fallow and rich land lords were able to buy it up at low prices(black rock?) now here this situation could be stabilized if the land holders would just hire the low class plebian citizens to be farmers and rent the land from them. But the difference as I said was slavery, slavery is free labor so there was no way a free farmer could compete and get hired compared to a slave who would work for free, thus the free Romans migrated to cities and this sets the stage for the late Republic. Where Optimates represented the interests of rich patricians fought against Populares like the Gracchi who wanted to redistribute land so that the big land lords would be broken up and Rome could go back to the concept of being a citizen farmer, then later Marius made the Reforms that made the Legions professional but also made it no longer loyal to Rome since the soldiers weren't owning land, but instead got wealth from their leaders, and it eventually led to coups, and Caesar eventually putting the Republic down and Octavian literally making the Empire. The things that fucked the Republic were rich land owners having land instead of the people who actually live on a plot of land, and slavery. Also in the end the Populares won, so I'd rather conservatives not follow the same route instead of prostituting yourselves to the rich, just go with the will of the people the majority and support those who are poorer. If that means land lords don't get to make money for last year well they can eat that loss, they will still get money coming in from future rent.
 
2. There are a few ways to respond either they are parasites who just take a cut of wealth because they own land but don't produce anything themselves, or another thing is if they are living off the rental income solely and need it what have they been doing with the moratorium? How have they survived the past year with no money coming in if what you say is true?
Spoken like a true comunist bandit. People deserve to taste the fruit of their property. In this respect, landlords are the most oppressed people in the united states. Tenants are allowed to steal from them and damage their property while the land lords are only allowed incredibly onerous and time consuming legal remedies.
 
Yeah, welfare sponges are the REAL contributors to society!!! Gibs them more gibs, gibs them land, housing and then money to maintain the house. Oh sure they can't pay taxes on the stuff they get for free of course. And they will still need UBI too silly. They are the real salt of the earth and deserve it all and don't say otherwise.

Screw the people that built the houses or paid for them, maintain them, pay taxes for them and are responsible for them. They created a business renting property they own and maintain to others who could not afford to buy and maintain themselves for a agreed upon fee. The bastards! The literal Slave Owners, Nero come again!!!

Do HOA or building supers make people pick cotton on the weekends as rent is that it? Is Holiday Inn a day laborer cabin?

Of course Christians should forgive all the money they are owed. Being owed money is a sin dontcha know. Even if you never lent on interest and just never got paid for room and board provided. Ancient Jerusalem had a max 7 year limit on loansor something, thats a valid justification for governments mandating that rentals forgoe all income for a year.

Hey, they already banned them from collecting for a year, handwriting it away as 'forgiven' isn't much of a stretch. Also something something Rome something something Octavius. Grumble grumble the Imperial Legionairies of the Bonxes 42nd Street Apartments deserve Farmsteads!
 
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Spoken like a true comunist bandit. People deserve to taste the fruit of their property. In this respect, landlords are the most oppressed people in the united states. Tenants are allowed to steal from them and damage their property while the land lords are only allowed incredibly onerous and time consuming legal remedies.
Communist bandit? Under your money worshipping way of thought all taxes are theft. Lol at the thought land lords are the most oppressed class. Please someone who has many properties and let’s someone else live on it in exchange for getting paid and doing literally nothing is not oppressed. They are wealthier than average and have more benefits they can literally do nothing all day and make money.


Yeah, welfare sponges are the REAL contributors to society!!! Gibs them more gibs, gibs them land, housing and then money to maintain the house. Oh sure they can't pay taxes on the stuff they get for free of course. And they will still need UBI too silly. They are the real salt of the earth and deserve it all and don't say otherwise.

Screw the people that built the houses or paid for them, maintain them, pay taxes for them and are responsible for them. They created a business renting property they own and maintain to others who could not afford to buy and maintain themselves for a agreed upon fee. The bastards! The literal Slave Owners, Nero come again!!!

Do HOA or building supers make people pick cotton on the weekends as rent is that it? Is Holiday Inn a day laborer cabin?

Of course Christians should forgive all the money they are owed. Being owed money is a sin dontcha know. Even if you never lent on interest and just never got paid for room and board provided. Ancient Jerusalem had a max 7 year limit on loansor something, thats a valid justification for governments mandating that rentals forgoe all income for a year.

Hey, they already banned them from collecting for a year, handwriting it away as 'forgiven' isn't much of a stretch. Also something something Rome something something Octavius. Grumble grumble the Imperial Legionairies of the Bonxes 42nd Street Apartments deserve Farmsteads!
Are you going to post something readable or just shut post?
 
So you buy a house. You worked to pay for the land, the materials and labor that made the house, and are consistently paying the taxes upon said house, as well as paying for maintenance and repair of the house to include air conditioner, roofing, termite and insect prevention, and (depending on your contract) appliance repair or replacement. And that qualifies as doing nothing for the person you are letting live there? If so, why don't the people renting the house just buy one themselves since it is not that big a deal?
 
Communist bandit? Under your money worshipping way of thought all taxes are theft. Lol at the thought land lords are the most oppressed class. Please someone who has many properties and let’s someone else live on it in exchange for getting paid and doing literally nothing is not oppressed. They are wealthier than average and have more benefits they can literally do nothing all day and make money.
You can just tell us you're a lefty. You're at least sharing their talking points.

I know several rental owners. I make more than them at my job. They have to hire people to do maintenance and they run a business, they pay taxes. Some of them have to work a regular job on top of this because it doesn't generate a ton of income. Homes are not maintenance free, things needs fixed. That costs money. They own this property, and they're taking ALL the risk by operating their business and letting people move in. The damage some people do is expensive, too.

Now for many of them, they haven't even been getting paid by some tenants for over a year, and they're likely to never see that money. Again, I make more than some of them do, at my regular 9-5 Job. They now have to pay for this, because their mortgage bill still needs to be paid.

All this moratorium does is shift the burden from the renter, to the owner, who often times brings in even less in profits than the damn renter earns from their job.

The idea that they just sit around and do nothing and get rich, is a bullshit leftist myth.
 
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Communist bandit? Under your money worshipping way of thought all taxes are theft. Lol at the thought land lords are the most oppressed class. Please someone who has many properties and let’s someone else live on it in exchange for getting paid and doing literally nothing is not oppressed. They are wealthier than average and have more benefits they can literally do nothing all day and make money.
The average landlord only owns three properties. The landlord with 500 homes, like the million-acre farm, is actually super-rare and generally a megacorp, not some greedy human. The average landlord also performs at least six repairs per year per tenant, and 13% even change their tenants' lightbulbs. The person with lots of homes who does no work on them is basically a strawman stereotype you've built for yourself.
 
Even then, I don’t see the problem, if you’ve managed at some point in your life to buy enough property to live off it, than good on you. Why should such a person be treated like some kind of faceless monster?
Let's compromise next time housing or asset prices dip nationalize Blackrock and companies like it. If you bought assets on non interest government loans its only right the government confiscated the stuff if your ability to pay falls below the borrowed amount.

It's all funny money anyway, but its Public funny money dangit!
 
Let's compromise next time housing or asset prices dip nationalize Blackrock and companies like it. If you bought assets on non interest government loans its only right the government confiscated the stuff if your ability to pay falls below the borrowed amount.

It's all funny money anyway, but its Public funny money dangit!
The thing is, Blackrock bought from a company that built renting homes. It bought a base brick for the renting homes, and the building company got money from it.
 
The thing is, Blackrock bought from a company that built renting homes. It bought a base brick for the renting homes, and the building company got money from it.
Well yes. Which is why I say compromise. Nothing says that 'screw a third party' especially one neither really care about.

Besides the grouch people have with them is the 'zero interest government loans' bit. Not the 'paying above market prices for housing' bit.
 
Well yes. Which is why I say compromise. Nothing says that 'screw a third party' especially one neither really care about.

Besides the grouch people have with them is the 'zero interest government loans' bit. Not the 'paying above market prices for housing' bit.
The houses they bought were 50% Profit for the builders who sold it to them. They were not spending cash money on each home./..
 
The houses they bought were 50% Profit for the builders who sold it to them. They were not spending cash money on each home./..
And I have no problem with that or even them at all honestly. As I said if people want to get grouchy about something to do with them they should atleast focus on the right parts. But really when the government offers you free loans you understand that if you don't take it they will offer it to your competitor. Its federally encouraged skeevyness is what it is.

So might as well make it skeevy squared by making them the target of the hullabaloo the inevitable consequences of this all comes home to roost.

To be fair this is all online opinions posting.
 
The thing is, Blackrock bought from a company that built renting homes. It bought a base brick for the renting homes, and the building company got money from it.
More correctly, some of the houses BlackRock built were new construction. They also purchased scads of foreclosures.


By 2016, 95 percent of the distressed mortgages on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac’s books were auctioned off to Wall Street investors without any meaningful stipulations, and private-equity firms had acquired more than 200,000 homes in desirable cities and middle-class suburban neighborhoods
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Throughout the country, the firms created special real estate investment trusts, or REITs, to pool funds to buy bundles of foreclosed properties.
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as chief executive and chairman, renamed the bank OneWest and then foreclosed on more than 35,000 Californians, reaping government subsidies on nearly every one.
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And so, having bought the bulk of foreclosed homes in certain desirable neighborhoods — many of which didn’t have rental inventory before the crisis — these companies now have what Suzanne Lanyi Charles, a professor of urban planning at Cornell, characterizes as oligopolistic power over some local housing markets.
 

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