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Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

Marduk

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Ok, ok, you are unwilling to back your claims with anything, got it.
You are unwilling to move your useless, annoying ass to google the performance stats of MQ-9 on wikipedia, so feel free to show off how you are too lazy to answer your own stupid question, but not lazy enough to stop being annoying pointlessly like your whole chain of replies here.
Oh, and I was thinking that a few old MiGs could just be cannibalized and/or repurposed as drones.
Like China does with some of its old stuff. Also, no need for armaments.
Well, maybe a boxing glove with a smiling shark on it. 😂
Then we are well outside of the territory of "cheap" and in the territory of "creative accounting".
Since it is triggered by an impact I don't think you wnat it to be active on a friendly airfield, or when the drone is in transit, or, heck, close to friendly urban areas. 😏
Ok, so since you are being a smartass, and it is already a drone with a digital command link, don't you think it would be possible to give the controller a "arm/disarm anti-tamper" button, in which case we wouldn't need to be having this whole exchange?
 

History Learner

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Still waiting for an explanation from @Tiamat about why the Russian Army didn't starve to death and freeze this winter. Also, if their logistics are shit, it begs the question of how they're firing several times the amount of artillery shells that Ukraine is. Really weird, those tricky Slavs, defying all laws of physics!
 

Tiamat

I've seen the future...
Still waiting for an explanation from @Tiamat about why the Russian Army didn't starve to death and freeze this winter. Also, if their logistics are shit, it begs the question of how they're firing several times the amount of artillery shells that Ukraine is. Really weird, those tricky Slavs, defying all laws of physics!

Okay, fine, you wanna troll....?














Russian soldier who fled Russian army speaks to CNN

Prigozhin admits Russia is running low on ammunition

Why are Russian logistics so bad in Ukraine?

Yury Mezinov "A Just Russia" Rep. Says Ammo Shortage is Felt Along Entire Frontline, Not Just Wagner

Intercepted Call: Russian in Luhansk Discusses Russian Military Weaknesses Etc.

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EDIT: BTW, that's just a quick internet search. I'm sure you'll find other stuff too, but pretty sure you'll only select the crap that fits your bullshit narratives.

Don't worry, you still get a consolation prize, as Bakhmut looks like it probably will fall soon. It only took the Russians what, 8 or 9 months assaulting the same damn place...?

But really, what's even the point? You'll just construe this into an argument that the sky is Purple and the water is Red... 🤷‍♂️
 
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LordsFire

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Because the rich can afford the better toys. Who do you think is benefited more; someone who proudly owns and regularly restores their grandpa's old hunting rifle, or the guy who can operate a small carrier task force?
This argument applies to literally everything in life.

The rich can afford nicer houses. Better crack down on house ownership.

The rich can afford nicer cars. Better crack down on car ownership.

The rich can afford better health care. Better crack down on medical practices.


The question shouldn't be 'can someone with more money benefit more from this?' The question should be 'was their wealth acquired through moral means?'
 

ATP

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This argument applies to literally everything in life.

The rich can afford nicer houses. Better crack down on house ownership.

The rich can afford nicer cars. Better crack down on car ownership.

The rich can afford better health care. Better crack down on medical practices.


The question shouldn't be 'can someone with more money benefit more from this?' The question should be 'was their wealth acquired through moral means?'
Indeed.Only alternative to society with rich people is slave society.In other worlds,commies,becouse even secret police there are,in fact,slaves.

Of course,we need to stop oligarchy from ruling,becouse they suck at it,but there is old answer for that - Kings.

Well,in theory people could be ruled by monks,but,as both christian and buddhist cases showed,it usually suck,too.
Althought...Monks estates in South America was much better ruled then other spanish property,and indians there were free and educated.
So,right catholics monks would do...BUT WHERE GET THEM NOW ?
 

Megadeath

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This argument applies to literally everything in life.

The rich can afford nicer houses. Better crack down on house ownership.

The rich can afford nicer cars. Better crack down on car ownership.

The rich can afford better health care. Better crack down on medical practices.


The question shouldn't be 'can someone with more money benefit more from this?' The question should be 'was their wealth acquired through moral means?'
So? You asked me how it inordinately benefited the rich, and I answered you. Also as I already told you, I wasn't making any moral judgement, nor did I say don't do it. I simply said that it struck me as a very American thing to do. I wonder what it says about you that I say it's very American and you perceive that as an attack or insult.
 

LordsFire

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So? You asked me how it inordinately benefited the rich, and I answered you. Also as I already told you, I wasn't making any moral judgement, nor did I say don't do it. I simply said that it struck me as a very American thing to do. I wonder what it says about you that I say it's very American and you perceive that as an attack or insult.

The wording 'inordinately' is an attack. It literally means 'exceeding reasonable limits'

Put another way, your direct statement is 'this benefits the rich more than is reasonable.'

It is an attacking statement, which is why I responded to it as such.
 

Megadeath

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The wording 'inordinately' is an attack. It literally means 'exceeding reasonable limits'

Put another way, your direct statement is 'this benefits the rich more than is reasonable.'

It is an attacking statement, which is why I responded to it as such.
It can also be used as synonymous with "disproportionate". In my experience that would be the more common usage, and more importantly the obvious intention here from context. And before you go and quote one of the several dictionary sites that define that as "Too large or too small." I'll get ahead and point out that's a dumbed down explanation and the word literally means "Not in proportion." Since the result of the idea would potentially put exponentially more power in the hands of one super rich person as compared with a group of more average income people, even if the sum of their net wealth is the same, I think that's self evidently the case.

Now I'm sure you can find some other semantics argument to try and insist that I'm saying something I never did, and have said several times I didn't mean, but I have no interest whatsoever in a debate that basically boils down to you insisting you know what I meant better than I do, in my response to an off topic hypothetical/joke. Please find something better to do.
 

Zachowon

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Okay, fine, you wanna troll....?














Russian soldier who fled Russian army speaks to CNN

Prigozhin admits Russia is running low on ammunition

Why are Russian logistics so bad in Ukraine?

Yury Mezinov "A Just Russia" Rep. Says Ammo Shortage is Felt Along Entire Frontline, Not Just Wagner

Intercepted Call: Russian in Luhansk Discusses Russian Military Weaknesses Etc.

^
^
^
EDIT: BTW, that's just a quick internet search. I'm sure you'll find other stuff too, but pretty sure you'll only select the crap that fits your bullshit narratives.

Don't worry, you still get a consolation prize, as Bakhmut looks like it probably will fall soon. It only took the Russians what, 8 or 9 months assaulting the same damn place...?

But really, what's even the point? You'll just construe this into an argument that the sky is Purple and the water is Red... 🤷‍♂️

I mean, they may take Bakhmut by the end of the month but
 

Husky_Khan

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As we know SPAAG's like the Tunguska are actually pretty ideal for dealing with low cost aerial threats.



Almost a case of bitter irony lol...
 

Buba

A total creep
Medvedev threatens to blow up the ICC with a hypersonic missile?


Well either way, nothing of value will be lost. :sneaky:
Bunch of useless and needless impotents.
BTW - the world's Paragon of Freedom, Democracy and Rule of Law does not recognise the ICC either ...
 
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Megadeath

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From the 1800s. The UK had slavery too. But currently? The UK arrests people for silently praying. Try again.
Lol, one person was arrested for the legal equivalent of "Not touching you!" at an abortion clinic. Not great, and that it happened twice is pretty face palm inducing. Tell me, how many people have the American police shot dead for practising their freedom of speech? Or because they had too many coffee's and felt a bit sketchy at a traffic stop? Or as a case of mistaken identity? I think a couple of dumb arrests impinge on freedom less than hundreds or thousands of needless deaths.
 

Abhorsen

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Lol, one person was arrested for the legal equivalent of "Not touching you!" at an abortion clinic. Not great, and that it happened twice is pretty face palm inducing. Tell me, how many people have the American police shot dead for practising their freedom of speech? Or because they had too many coffee's and felt a bit sketchy at a traffic stop? Or as a case of mistaken identity? I think a couple of dumb arrests impinge on freedom less than hundreds or thousands of needless deaths.
Lol. The UK police investigate people for tweets. The US cops don't kill people for talking, they kill people because they are incompetent. See, the problems you point out in the US is the system failing. The problems I point out in the UK is the system working. The UK's system is fucked.
 

Megadeath

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Lol. The UK police investigate people for tweets. The US cops don't kill people for talking, they kill people because they are incompetent. See, the problems you point out in the US is the system failing. The problems I point out in the UK is the system working. The UK's system is fucked.
And yet, those officers very often continue on in their job, usually without any real consequences. When a system so consistently produces a result, and that result is shrugged off and accepted, it is a part of the system. Also, the end result is that you might be somewhat inconvenienced in the UK for stupid shit, or you might be shot dead for no real reason in the US. If I had to move to one or the other, I know which way I'd lean. And that's before we even get into metal detectors at school and cops dragging kids out of classrooms, the tens of thousands who die preventably each year because funding healthcare is evil, or the ridiculous political system that basically forces you to accept one of two ideologies or go ignored. To my mind, those all impinge more on freedom more than whether the cops scrutinise my social media.
 

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