Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

[paulobrito]

Massive shelling from the AFU? the Army that don't have enough shells to do any decent counter-battery fire? Nice joke. Well, that depends of what you call 'massive'.

 

[Zachowon]

Edit:


The VDV paratrooper who slammed the invasion and Russian leadership has made it safely to Paris.

Ukrainians can't be doing good. Must be propaganda.

 

[Zachowon]

Massive shelling from the AFU? the Army that don't have enough shells to do any decent counter-battery fire? Nice joke. Well, that depends of what you call 'massive'.

I mean, whose Ammo depots have been destroyed?
Why did VDV leave the Donbass militia and run from Kherson?
Almost like the Ukrainians are gaining ground

 

[Batrix2070]

Just how frequently do people in Eastern Europe get fired or cancelled for hate speech?

As much as it should be, which is zero. For us, this is an apologetic joke and not a reason to dismiss.

This is best conveyed by the silly utterances from WW3 by a Polish studio where one of the Polish lines of dialogue reads:
Hate speech, Hate speech, bitch!

 

[paulobrito]

Well, i see you like to believe in fairy tales. That's you option after all. Strange, with your job.

 

[WolfBear]

As much as it should be, which is zero. For us, this is an apologetic joke and not a reason to dismiss.

This is best conveyed by the silly utterances from WW3 by a Polish studio where one of the Polish lines of dialogue reads:
Hate speech, Hate speech, bitch!

Good thing that the EU is not forcing hate speech laws on you! This allows you to be a part of a giant bloc while still having a lot of domestic autonomy on this issue.

By the way, have the Visegrad countries, Ukraine, the Baltics, and/or Romania ever considered developing their own version of Big Tech? I mean Twitter, Facebook, et cetera. One that is less Woke than the Western version(s) of it.

 

[Batrix2070]

Good thing that the EU is not forcing hate speech laws on you!

Rather, he tries but Poles, as always with such regulations, don't give a damn.

One that is less Woke than the Western version(s) of it.

Looks at CD Projekt RED.
Honestly, it depends, if it's not in Warsaw then there are some chances.

considered developing their own version of Big Tech?

Well, we had our own Facebook, it was called Our Class but it died. More than a year ago the site was shut down. Now we have our Parlel and the other one. It's called Abicla, and it was ridiculed by the liberal-left on the Internet.

But such Big Tech? Let me put it this way, many companies that could have become Polish Big Tech were built in the People's Republic, then destroyed umylśnie during privatization, often got into the hands of Western Big Tech and extinguished.
Or they were dealt with through the courts and the tax office, which was able to bankrupt even promising technology companies because they supposedly failed to pay tax or managed too much to bear.

So it is unlikely that there are such companies in Poland, they may be somewhere else, but in Poland they are rather high technology but small companies. You wouldn't even know about most of them or that they are Polish.

 

[ATP]

Shit.
Now,we are done.What kind of idiots they are? worst thing is - only alternative for those idiots is Donald Tusk,who is as much stupid,and german agent.
Now,if we survive this,it would be only thanks to Holy Mary.And it is not joke.I belive in our Queen - but,would they save us again from out stupidity?

P.S Interesting,how they want replace 600 soviets tanks,1300 transporters,600 guns,and all AA missiles.
And how they want fight Moscov without them.

 

[Zachowon]

Shit.
Now,we are done.What kind of idiots they are? worst thing is - only alternative for those idiots is Donald Tusk,who is as much stupid,and german agent.
Noe,if we survive this,it would be only thanks to Holy Mary.And it is not joke.I belive in our Queen - but,would they save us again from out stupidity?

P.S Interesting,how they want replace 600 soviets tanks,1300 transporters,600 guns,and all AA missiles.
And how they want fight Moscov without them.

Yall are getting fucking Abrams.

 

[ATP]

Well, exist perspective and perspective. I have no problems with different perspectives. But, our friend ATP doesn't have a perspective. What the poor guy has is a delusional fantasy based on his irrational hatred of anything Russian. Not a single relation with history or reality. Is sad, really. another one that lives in the Lala land.

I never hated Russia - and it is dead now anyway.
I am wary about kgb mafia ruling Moscov,that is all.
And we live in reality where that mafia started unprovoked war,and...is loosing it.WHY? they are genociders and cryminals,but never idiots.Why they are loosing,when they should take Kiev at least 3 months ago?

Only explanations - it is kind of plot.And,one of its goal is destroing Moscov army.

You could belive in your Mother Russia - but she was murdered 100 years ago.By ancestors of dudes who you are supporting now.
Since you live in Portugal,i suggest in beliving in Holy Mother rather,and go to Fatima.

 

[ATP]

Yall are getting fucking Abrams.

When? and how many? we need 300 of them now,for T.72 we gave.
And,if we gave BWP1 to Ukraine,USA could send us Bradleys - BUT, WHAT WE DO GET for guns and AA missiles?
USA do not have older models of those who could be send to us.

 

[Vaermina]

Shit.
Now,we are done.What kind of idiots they are? worst thing is - only alternative for those idiots is Donald Tusk,who is as much stupid,and german agent.
Now,if we survive this,it would be only thanks to Holy Mary.And it is not joke.I belive in our Queen - but,would they save us again from out stupidity?

P.S Interesting,how they want replace 600 soviets tanks,1300 transporters,600 guns,and all AA missiles.
And how they want fight Moscov without them.

Poland isn't going to be fighting Moscow? It's part of NATO. The moment Russia crosses that border is the moment what few troops they have left get wiped out.

 

[ATP]

Poland isn't going to be fighting Moscow? It's part of NATO. The moment Russia crosses that border is the moment what few troops they have left get wiped out.

We had allies in 1939,too.And NATO actually promise to send troops - but,after some time.Which we would not have without weapons to fight.

 

[WolfBear]

Rather, he tries but Poles, as always with such regulations, don't give a damn.

Looks at CD Projekt RED.
Honestly, it depends, if it's not in Warsaw then there are some chances.

Well, we had our own Facebook, it was called Our Class but it died. More than a year ago the site was shut down. Now we have our Parlel and the other one. It's called Abicla, and it was ridiculed by the liberal-left on the Internet.

But such Big Tech? Let me put it this way, many companies that could have become Polish Big Tech were built in the People's Republic, then destroyed umylśnie during privatization, often got into the hands of Western Big Tech and extinguished.
Or they were dealt with through the courts and the tax office, which was able to bankrupt even promising technology companies because they supposedly failed to pay tax or managed too much to bear.

So it is unlikely that there are such companies in Poland, they may be somewhere else, but in Poland they are rather high technology but small companies. You wouldn't even know about most of them or that they are Polish.

Why was the Polish Facebook shut down?

 

[Vaermina]

We had allies in 1939, too. And NATO actually promise to send troops - but,after some time.Which we would not have without weapons to fight.

NATO didn't exist in 1939...

 

[Megadeath]

We had allies in 1939,too.And NATO actually promise to send troops - but,after some time.Which we would not have without weapons to fight.

There's already a multinational NATO force IN Poland though? Not huge, sure but Russia have just spent 6 months demonstrating they suck even with the kind time to build up a force that would allow NATO to move more into position to counter.

 

[Zachowon]

There's already a multinational NATO force IN Poland though? Not huge, sure but Russia have just spent 6 months demonstrating they suck even with the kind time to build up a force that would allow NATO to move more into position to counter.

Yes.
A lot of US troops

 

[Marduk]

When? and how many? we need 300 of them now,for T.72 we gave.
And,if we gave BWP1 to Ukraine,USA could send us Bradleys - BUT, WHAT WE DO GET for guns and AA missiles?
USA do not have older models of those who could be send to us.

Which AA missiles? Reminder that the ex-Soviet stuff we have is mostly crappier export versions of the reserve stuff Ukraine is using. It's not a big loss.
For short range, we have Piorun\Poprad. For medium range, we have Narew-CAMM.

UK and Poland collaborate on multi-billion pound Polish air defence systems

A landmark agreement has been reached between Defence Secretary Ben Wallace and Polish Defence Minister Mariusz Błaszczak to cooperate on Poland’s future air defence system.

www.gov.uk

And UK Sky Sabre (far better than anything ex-Soviet) stationing in Poland probably until it arrives.

https://www.army.mod.uk/news-and-events/news/2022/03/british-army-deploys-air-defence-assets-to-poland-and-ukraine/

And for long range, Patriot.
As for IFVs, there's Borsuk and the possibility of Redback purchase. Also we have wheeled IFV Rosomaks even if there is a time gap between the transfer.

In the meantime:

U.S. Establishing Permanent Troops in Poland Amid Fears of NATO-Russia War

Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said the number of NATO troops on high readiness will increase more than sevenfold, the largest boost since the Cold War.

www.newsweek.com

These are the missile defense systems the US sent to Poland

The two missile defense systems that the US delivered to Poland this week are part of a weapons system upon which the US military has heavily relied for nearly 40 years.

edition.cnn.com

 

[TheRejectionist]

Rather, he tries but Poles, as always with such regulations, don't give a damn.

Looks at CD Projekt RED.
Honestly, it depends, if it's not in Warsaw then there are some chances.

Well, we had our own Facebook, it was called Our Class but it died. More than a year ago the site was shut down. Now we have our Parlel and the other one. It's called Abicla, and it was ridiculed by the liberal-left on the Internet.

But such Big Tech? Let me put it this way, many companies that could have become Polish Big Tech were built in the People's Republic, then destroyed umylśnie during privatization, often got into the hands of Western Big Tech and extinguished.
Or they were dealt with through the courts and the tax office, which was able to bankrupt even promising technology companies because they supposedly failed to pay tax or managed too much to bear.

So it is unlikely that there are such companies in Poland, they may be somewhere else, but in Poland they are rather high technology but small companies. You wouldn't even know about most of them or that they are Polish.

@Batrix2070 Well about the tech companies, that would be interesting for my timeline I am doing now.

 

[Batrix2070]

Why was the Polish Facebook shut down?

It has lost popularity, simply put.

@Batrix2070 Well about the tech companies, that would be interesting for my timeline I am doing now.

And which ones do you need? We had some of that.