You can tell people what you do in the military. Easily. Very few jobs are so classified.
Based Trad Russia!!!!
Obviously ignore everything wrong eith thr country
Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)
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Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
There's a difference between describing job responsibilities and interesting details any institution would rather the public don't know especially information they find inconvenient to their own goals.
TheRejectionist
TheRejectionist
I mean you are under the delusion that your side has the moral high ground despite being lead by people who have sold out your country while serving the monopoly of the military industrial complex which is perfectly in bed with a cosmopolitan agenda which tells to hate your own culture and women can have penises, that is perfectly normal to have "trans" kids and drag queen lecturers and you coup and subvert without provocation any nation that even think or tries to distance itself from your patchwork of a Frankenstein of interest groups, lobbies and sellouts.
So next to the US in the last 70 years the Russians are doves.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Every side likes to believe they're in the right the day sides have existed.
They're watching the past many years since the Soviet Union dissolved. They maybe lesser in nation quality but they have a brain to decide what they see.
That's hilarious!
Why should anyone give smallest damn about anyone's attempts at pseudo-moralistic blame ju-jitsu?
That sounds like some kind of carefully crafted fusion of left and right anti-establishment points, even though at a closer look this shit makes little sense.
"Shitty politicians won last election so let's allow hostile powers to run amok and conquer shit" is even sillier when coming from supposed right wingers who are supposedly patriotic than it is when it is coming from left wingers with a seasoning of "muh history of evil western colonialism" talk.
Like being SF?
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
...Yes, because starving millions to death, working millions to death, and systematically murdering and conquering your way across much of Asia, very dove-ish.
I guess you're solidly in the ranks of 'if it's against the people I hate in the west, clearly it's good' camp.
Utterly irrational.
You forget about Putin being Schwalbe pupil with Merkel.And Dugin ideas that ukrainians,belarussians and poles must cease to exist.
But,even more importantly,you repeat mistake of Hitler supporters before 1939 - he have problems,but would fight commies.
This time you support another genocider becouse you hope that he save you.
Not going to happen.
And,what is even worst,this time they fake their conflict and are on the same side.Bu,as lon as war do not end,they could not unite Europe and take us all to gulags.
So - viva la guerre !
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
No by spreading information the public doesn't know public. People talk and so does the military no matter how special they are and in this day and age of social media the urge to express and communicate is ever constant.
I don't expect hugs and kisses from the establishment if they did it with their identities public.
Always has been for people.
TheRejectionist
TheRejectionist
Maybe I sperged out and I would say that I did impetously replied in an hyperbolic and formulaic language, but look it from my perspective : in Italy at least 3 public figures were likely offed by the CIA, countless coup were approved or "helped" by them in Latina America or elsewhere.
Not all of the world had the USSR or their genocidal puppets.
We had the US and occasionally Albion and France.
So pardon me if I like the Russians more than the NATO parasites.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Were you supposed to quote me about quoting Lordsfire about the irrationality of people?
I am agreeing with you by saying it always has been that way.
You laid it out yourself.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
A lot of arguments can be made in each individual case about how justified what the CIA did or did not do was. Keep in mind though, that a lot of the context for this is after the USSR created/funded/supported to victory communist takeovers in North Korea, North Vietnam, and China. That CIA interference is not a black and white case of 'this was never ever justified.'
And that's before you get into the rest of your comparisons.
When Russia/the USSR controlled eastern Europe, they were tyrannical police states that caused human suffering on a level only matched by other socialist regimes in nazi Germany and Communist China. When the US with NATO allies went into Korea, it cultivated what has become South Korea, the most prosperous and free nation in Eastern Asia. It's not without flaws, but the contrast is stark.
Attempts to repeat the process also clearly failed in Iraq and Afghanistan, but that was a matter of incompetence, mostly due to lack of understanding of Islamic/Middle Eastern culture and increasingly being slaves to political correctness. They still raised the standard of living and built infrastructure through those nations, even if it all fell apart eventually, the contrast, again, is stark.
NATO has problems. 'The West' as a super-culture has some serious issues, and looks to be in the decline stage of the rise and fall of empires.
It's still far superior to what the USSR and post-soviet Russia have done, defintely better than what the CCP is currently up to, and there really isn't any other power or cultural block worth comparing.
And yet none of this has anything to do with Russia playing empire by invading other countries and doing all sorts of horrible things to the locals.
"likely" sounds pretty questionable to me.
Do you perhaps happen to know the names and... political party membership of said "public figures"?
Because it sounds to me as spicy fact cleared way to say "poor little communists assassinated by CIA".
That goes double for South America.
Of course Soviets usually weren't assassinating the people they were training and paying.
Also funny how you just happen to not mention when Soviet proxies kidnapped and assassinated an ex-PM of Italy.
That's not a "likely", that's actually proven that it was commies supported by eastern block states.
To add to the hilarity, they are still around, and they still may be enjoying their eastern ties that went back to KGB/FSB.
True about USA and CIA - but CIA are bunch of amateurs unable to organize orgy in brothel,so,no matter how hard they try,they never could hurt you as much as kgb.Becouse kgb,at least till 2014,was competent.
And USA till Biden never tried to instal leftist who would destroy society,only bandits who would steal from their victims,but not destroing country.
So,even now,USA is lesser evil.And now ,as long as they fought each other,they could not send us to their gulags - no matter red or rainbow.
They just want to stick the middle finger to the West lol even though the West has been responsible for the lion's share of accomplished figures throughout history, especially in recent history, as measured by Charles Murray's book Human Accomplishment:
Those who hate the West (and/or Ashkenazi Jews) hate the most successful parts of humanity.
FWIW, here is some more data for Human Accomplishment:
Cross-validating the Human Accomplishment dataset with Wikipedia
(Partial Rnotebook) Last year I convinced Charles Murray to share some of his data underlying his great book Human Accomplishment. He put it on OSF, where it remains available. So far so good. At some later point in 2016, I finally had a closer look at the dataset and made some rudimentary plo
emilkirkegaard.dk
The most accomplished parts of Europe are primarily located within the Hajnal Line:
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“core europe” and human accomplish-ment
uncle bob beat me to this (hey uncle bob! *waves* (^_^) ). i’ve been meaning to post about human accomplishment in core europe ever since agnostic posted about it last month on his blog. here…
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