Alec Baldwin shoots 2 on set of western, 1 dead

[LindyAF]

Alec Baldwin just killed someone apparently.

 

[PsihoKekec]

Anti-gun celebrity shoots two people, what are the chances that he will suffer minimal consequences?

 

[Arlos]

Apparently an accident, he should have failed to follow gun safety since it happen when he was discharging, tough he might not have tought it was loaded with real bullets.

 

[PsihoKekec]

Always treat a gun like it's loaded, but rules don't exist for the likes of him.

 

[hyperspacewizard]

Anti-gun celebrity shoots two people, what are the chances that he will suffer minimal consequences?

I mean it looks like an accident he was shooting a movie I don't think he legit was trying to kill someone. So while its a tragedy the one responsible is probably the guy in charge of the guns on set unless he was screwing around and not following directions.

Also doesn't need to be real bullets blanks can kill and a lot of films used them because they provide a more realistic recoil.

 

[PsihoKekec]

Blanks can kill only at pointblank range, since one person is dead and another wounded, this was most certainly a real round penetrating one person and then hitting another. My point is that common people had gone to jail for such accidents, while in his case the law will most certainly be lenient. It's also hypocritical of him and other celebrities who champion taking guns away from plebs, while making money by pretending to be gun toting characters, but then hypocrisy is a bedrock of our society.

 

[Arlos]

I mean it looks like an accident he was shooting a movie I don't think he legit was trying to kill someone. So while its a tragedy the one responsible is probably the guy in charge of the guns on set unless he was screwing around and not following directions.

Also doesn't need to be real bullets blanks can kill and a lot of films used them because they provide a more realistic recoil.

If he didn’t follow gun safety, that’s 100% his fault tough, even if it is involuntary.

 

[Bigking321]

I don't think we have enough information yet, but it was probably a terrible accident.

 

[Cherico]

Im going to withhold judgement until I see more facts come out.

 

[Rocinante]

If he didn’t follow gun safety, that’s 100% his fault tough, even if it is involuntary.

That's kind of bullshit really.

If you had to follow gun safety all the time you wouldn't be able to shoot movies. That involves pointing a gun at someone and pulling trigger, which is 100% not gun safety.

They're working assuming someone checked and made sure the gun wasn't real or loaded with blanks. They aren't even trained to know the difference half the time.

This is a matter of negligence, but I can't blame Baldwin for not following gun safety, he was just doing his job. Someone else screwed up their job.

 

[bintananth]

Im going to withhold judgement until I see more facts come out.

Ditto. Someone messed up and we don't we don't have all the facts yet.

 

[Culsu]

I don't like Baldwin, but he's an actor, and this wouldn't be the first time someone fucked up big time with weapons on the set of a movie production. Think of Brandon Lee (The Crow) getting shot and killed, for example.

 

[Jormungandr]

Blanks can kill only at pointblank range, since one person is dead and another wounded, this was most certainly a real round penetrating one person and then hitting another. My point is that common people had gone to jail for such accidents, while in his case the law will most certainly be lenient. It's also hypocritical of him and other celebrities who champion taking guns away from plebs, while making money by pretending to be gun toting characters, but then hypocrisy is a bedrock of our society.

IIRC, not entirely true: Brandon Lee (son of Bruce Lee) died by defective blank ammunition at range on the set of The Crow.

 

[LindyAF]

If you had to follow gun safety all the time you wouldn't be able to shoot movies. That involves pointing a gun at someone and pulling trigger, which is 100% not gun safety.

They're working assuming someone checked and made sure the gun wasn't real or loaded with blanks. They aren't even trained to know the difference half the time.

This is a matter of negligence, but I can't blame Baldwin for not following gun safety, he was just doing his job. Someone else screwed up their job.

I think best practices for this then would be 1) The actor making sure that they personally did know the difference between blanks and real cartridges and 2) The actor personally verifying that the gun was actually loaded with blanks.

 

[Bear Ribs]

IIRC, not entirely true: Brandon Lee (son of Bruce Lee) died by defective blank ammunition at range on the set of The Crow.

Well, not exactly defective blank ammunition, the blank ammo was fine, the problem is there was a bullet lodged in the barrel from a previous scene so the blank's propellant launched the bullet exactly as a normal round would.

 

[LindyAF]

Well, not exactly defective blank ammunition, the blank ammo was fine, the problem is there was a bullet lodged in the barrel from a previous scene so the blank's propellant launched the bullet exactly as a normal round would.

Squib?

 

[Bear Ribs]

Squib?

Deliberate squib rounds, actually. It was a revolver and for one scene, they put in bullets with no propellant because the rounds were going to be visible on-screen, and blanks don't look right. However, some ditz forgot to remove the primer as well so when it was dry-fired during the scene, there was enough charge to move the bullet an inch or two down the barrel, and nobody noticed.

Then for the next scene, they loaded blank rounds with no bullet, but since a bullet was already present in the barrel the two basically combined into a single functional round that was shot into Brandon Lee at a range of 15 feet.

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Shot a cinematographer? Sounds like he was aiming towards the camera for a scene, in which case it would be unreasonable to expect it'd be loaded with a real bullet. Yes, gun safety always check and all that, but still. Doesn't sound like his fault.

 

[bintananth]

Shot a cinematographer? Sounds like he was aiming towards the camera for a scene, in which case it would be unreasonable to expect it'd be loaded with a real bullet. Yes, gun safety always check and all that, but still. Doesn't sound like his fault.

Two directors, one of whom died.

Aiming towards the camera for something staged that went wrong was my first thought, but you never know.

 

[Captain X]

That's kind of bullshit really.

If you had to follow gun safety all the time you wouldn't be able to shoot movies. That involves pointing a gun at someone and pulling trigger, which is 100% not gun safety.

They're working assuming someone checked and made sure the gun wasn't real or loaded with blanks. They aren't even trained to know the difference half the time.

This is a matter of negligence, but I can't blame Baldwin for not following gun safety, he was just doing his job. Someone else screwed up their job.

I can just never get over these Hollywood types being anti-gun and then using them to ply their trade like this. And then too boot he ends up killing someone. Probably just make him even more anti-gun now. Let's see if this makes him refuse to do movies like this now.