AI/Automation Megathread

Aaron Fox

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You know what I love about this? That they stole someone else's trademarked character design to use as a spokesperson against programs that use other artists' work as a starting point to create their own art. Is this person just not capable of understanding the hypocrisy in that, or are they just ignoring it in favor of what benefits them?

I've seen this 'movement' going around in various art sites, and the sad thing is that it's like how industrialization overcame artisanal production in general. It's inevitable. It's certain. It's coming. In addition, I've heard that the various art AI creators deliberately gimped their AI because the results were quite surprising.
 

Terthna

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I've seen this 'movement' going around in various art sites, and the sad thing is that it's like how industrialization overcame artisanal production in general. It's inevitable. It's certain. It's coming. In addition, I've heard that the various art AI creators deliberately gimped their AI because the results were quite surprising.
Thing is, it ties into something I've noticed with a number of fan artists and other fan creators these days; particularly those who make money off of it. They don't seem to realized that their livelihood is built off of other artists' work that they have no inherent right to use, and only do so at the pleasure of those who actually own it. It's so bad that some of them act like the characters they draw belong to them, such that they see no problem threatening to sue people who repost their work in an image thread on some random forum; even though they themselves would lose any court case brought against them by the people who actually own the characters they're drawing.

They've become arrogant and entitled.
 

hyperspacewizard

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ChatGPT Passes the Wharton MBA exam

Bear Ribs

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ChatGPT has passed the Wharton MBA exam with a B grade.


OpenAI’s Chat GPT3 has shown a remarkable ability to automate some of the skills of highly compensated knowledge workers in general and specifically the knowledge workers in the jobs held by MBA graduates including analysts, managers, and consultants. Chat GPT3 has demonstrated the capability of performing professional tasks such as writing software code and preparing legal documents.
 

hyperspacewizard

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Imagine what the next version will be like. Will it get an a grade or a perfect score. I do wonder if ai will actually begin a huge boom in small businesses because it could help normal people with navigating the laws and regulations that prevent or slow down so many of them. Or if someone could create one to specific help you with your taxes etc. so a one time payment for your various ai lawyers and other such jobs could actually be a massive boon to people with entrepreneurial ideas or products but lack capital or knowledge that prevent them from capitalizing on it.
 

Flintsteel

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ChatGPT has passed the Wharton MBA exam with a B grade.


OpenAI’s Chat GPT3 has shown a remarkable ability to automate some of the skills of highly compensated knowledge workers in general and specifically the knowledge workers in the jobs held by MBA graduates including analysts, managers, and consultants. Chat GPT3 has demonstrated the capability of performing professional tasks such as writing software code and preparing legal documents.
Somehow, I find this to be less indicative of the usefulness of ChatGPT and more the uselessness of MBAs.
 

Bear Ribs

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Somehow, I find this to be less indicative of the usefulness of ChatGPT and more the uselessness of MBAs.
Possibly, but they're talking about it passing the Bar exam within a year (and we already have one AI Lawyer at work, albeit it's still experimental) and nobody's ever said the Bar exam is easy.
 

LordsFire

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Somehow, I find this to be less indicative of the usefulness of ChatGPT and more the uselessness of MBAs.

An MBA is actually a useful thing, even if it like every other degree has been hit by degree inflation over the last few decades. The problem with it these days is threefold.

First, because it's a two (or less) year add-on to the degree someone already has, and is the sort of degree where if you're decent at math and actually apply yourself, is an automatic get, it's become more a matter of credential padding than anything else.

Second, because the business community has steadily been overtaken by credentialing and cultural orthodoxy, it's one of the symptoms of 'we'll try to run our business via spreadsheet and accepted wisdom rather than accepted knowledge.'

Third, spreadsheets are exactly the sort of thing computers are going to most easily be better at than humans.


The combination of two and three, means that a lot of 'bean counting leadership' can be very, very easily replaced with a bean-counting computer. The kind of 'empty suit' middle management who think they can just use numbers to be a good leader is going to quickly find out that if there's one thing computers are better at than humans, it's numbers.
 

Bear Ribs

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Look at some of these ai generated voices. Your mods fully voiced your fanfics can now be audio dramas truly the future is fascinating.
Yeah, I was listening to an AI read some Robert E. Howard yesterday and was quite impressed with how well it managed inflection, rhythm, and tone. We're going to see audiobook readers and voice actors out of work very shortly.

The thing is that this AI advancement is happening very rapidly, a year ago it was unknown, two years ago if you asked anybody they'd tell you AI is going to replace all the boring repetitive jobs and leave art as the only thing humans can do. I can probably find some posts by people on this forum saying that, it was the prevailing opinion until it turned out to be the complete opposite.

Right now we're looking at the very crude beginnings, AI art's only been in the public eye a few months, AI writing and voice acting for weeks and days respectively. I'm seeing a lot of people who are basically looking at the crude steam-tricycle built by Nicolas-Joseph Cugnot and going "yeah, this automobile can't compete, horses have nothing to worry about.

In a year or two it won't be an AI narrating your fanfic, the fanfic will be written, narrated, and illustrated entirely by AI.
 

hyperspacewizard

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Right now we're looking at the very crude beginnings, AI art's only been in the public eye a few months, AI writing and voice acting for weeks and days respectively. I'm seeing a lot of people who are basically looking at the crude steam-tricycle built by Nicolas-Joseph Cugnot and going "yeah, this automobile can't compete, horses have nothing to worry about.

In a year or two it won't be an AI narrating your fanfic, the fanfic will be written, narrated, and illustrated entirely by AI.
Still fan projects are already better than a lot of what comes out of hollywood I’m looking forward to what passionate people can do with these and even better tools. If the will and a good idea are there eventually individuals or small teams could create wonders. I think voice actors will have to shift to having a larger range of new and strange ways of speaking that they get paid a lump sum to record or maybe they’ll create a voice website like iTunes be like downloading a music file where they get paid royalties for people buying the files so they can use that voice in their own projects. Or a subscription service type deal.
 

Iconoclast

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Yeah, I was listening to an AI read some Robert E. Howard yesterday and was quite impressed with how well it managed inflection, rhythm, and tone. We're going to see audiobook readers and voice actors out of work very shortly.

The thing is that this AI advancement is happening very rapidly, a year ago it was unknown, two years ago if you asked anybody they'd tell you AI is going to replace all the boring repetitive jobs and leave art as the only thing humans can do. I can probably find some posts by people on this forum saying that, it was the prevailing opinion until it turned out to be the complete opposite.

Right now we're looking at the very crude beginnings, AI art's only been in the public eye a few months, AI writing and voice acting for weeks and days respectively. I'm seeing a lot of people who are basically looking at the crude steam-tricycle built by Nicolas-Joseph Cugnot and going "yeah, this automobile can't compete, horses have nothing to worry about.

In a year or two it won't be an AI narrating your fanfic, the fanfic will be written, narrated, and illustrated entirely by AI.
People have yet to comprehend what this means for art and culture in general. What it means is that our creative faculties will atrophy, because people will be so used to just asking AI to amuse them in a very specific way, they won't have any interest in human-generated creative works any longer. It also means that whoever controls these AI content generation platforms will get to shape the culture by deciding what sorts of materials these AIs can actually produce. Ask an AI to produce a decidedly unwoke swashbuckling pulp novel with lots of sex and profanity? We're sorry, that violates our TOS. Would you like this ESG-approved pap instead?

And just like that, rather than creativity being decentralized and democratized, the ability to shape culture is concentrated in the hands of a few cloud server owners. Everyone's wondering, "How the hell are artists supposed to make a living?", and meanwhile, I'm wondering, "How the hell are humans supposed to be creative or communicate novel ideas with each other at all when we have to shout over a sea of generated content?"
 

hyperspacewizard

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People have yet to comprehend what this means for art and culture in general. What it means is that our creative faculties will atrophy, because people will be so used to just asking AI to amuse them in a very specific way, they won't have any interest in human-generated creative works any longer. It also means that whoever controls these AI content generation platforms will get to shape the culture by deciding what sorts of materials these AIs can actually produce. Ask an AI to produce a decidedly unwoke swashbuckling pulp novel with lots of sex and profanity? We're sorry, that violates our TOS. Would you like this ESG-approved pap instead?

And just like that, rather than creativity being decentralized and democratized, the ability to shape culture is concentrated in the hands of a few cloud server owners. Everyone's wondering, "How the hell are artists supposed to make a living?", and meanwhile, I'm wondering, "How the hell are humans supposed to be creative or communicate novel ideas with each other at all when we have to shout over a sea of generated content?"
I really doubt it’s going to get that bad I’m sure it’s going to be more an ai human partnership than full ai creating everything wholesale. We as a species will adapt people will still have to come up with the seed idea. Creatives may have start thinking of themselves as garderners knowing which branch to cut and when it’s time to pull it up by the roots. look we all will have to get better at sorting through noise look at media before and after the internet and computer tech like photoshop and digital music makers and the explosion of content that happened there.
 

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